VGLeaks: First look as Durango XDK (always connected, kinect required, must install)
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Well, I think most accept that SuperDAE was able to get the XDK from Microsoft. From there we know that he gave all his info to Kotaku (because they told us). They wrote an article last month based on those docs and the article contains the exact same information. So if it were indeed fake, then SuperDAE just managed to fool everyone. I do find it funny that the hardware overview doesnt talk about hardware though
dragonelite
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The way i see it the always online is like on my nexus 7 tablet it will download updates when they come. Or maybe do some of that predictive downloading sony has on the ps4.
This didn't sound like always online i experienced with Sim city and Diablo 3.
Wouldn't be surprised if a game key gets connected to a console or a account.
I hope it is a console to game connection. Like i put the game in my Durango and install it. It will register that the game is connected to my Durango id number and the gamekey on the microsoft servers so you can play without disk. But when i try to install it on a friends Durango the console will ask the ms server to connect the gamekey to my friends Durango.
But when i go home and try to play the game without disk it will check if the gamekey is still connected to my durango if it is not it will ask me to insert the disk to connect the game to my Durango's id number.
This didn't sound like always online i experienced with Sim city and Diablo 3.
Wouldn't be surprised if a game key gets connected to a console or a account.
I hope it is a console to game connection. Like i put the game in my Durango and install it. It will register that the game is connected to my Durango id number and the gamekey on the microsoft servers so you can play without disk. But when i try to install it on a friends Durango the console will ask the ms server to connect the gamekey to my friends Durango.
But when i go home and try to play the game without disk it will check if the gamekey is still connected to my durango if it is not it will ask me to insert the disk to connect the game to my Durango's id number.
Next Gen Cam Girls.
Karak
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EDIT: Damnit he beat me to me telling him I beat him...sound dirty.
Now back on topic.
I want Fallout 4 and Jade Empire 2.
Zombie James
Banned
Kinect in every box, Kinect needs to be plugged in at all times, forced game installs... not sounding good at all.
Karak
Member
Also watching you.
.Not all the time.
There is offline mode for installed games, movies, and etc.
If you up for it, we can take a ban bet.
I am basing all my statement on what I see as trustworthy sources. If they are wrong, or I have misinterpreted their meaning, then so be it. I'm not going to pull a aegies and argue against the facts when they come to light.
I just feel there is sufficient evidence at the movement to assume that the next Xbox will be always online to work. Offline play for previously authenticated/registered games would obviously be great for everyone, so I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
I've posted a lot in the various Orbis/PS4/Durango threads. I've never 'confirmed' anything, even though I have my own views about the accuracy of certain rumours and thoughts. My posts are options. Opinions I believe have legitimate reasoning behind them, but opinions none the less.
Yeah people seem to be huffing their own bullshit. Ps4 is always connected, your pc and phone are always connected hell even the wii was always connected in 24/7 mode.
Always online is likely for background updates, preloads, skype messages etc. it's not going to be for always online drm.
I think people are misinterpreting it. Always connected refers to the fact that the device can stay connected to the Internet in a low power state as opposed to the 360 which has an on/off power state. This means it can recieve notifications, os and game updates all the time, even in standby. Think about how your iOS device receives push notifications from apps communicating on the web even when the device is in standby. I don't believe it means that the device won't function without a network connection, it is merely stating a new feature possible with the new hardware.
Care to tell me how durango manages to "always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current" if someone doesn't have a network at home.
Sure, it might not say the word "required" but it sure as hell doesn't say or imply its optional.
lastplayed
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Yep. Just look at the PS3 and its mandatory installs.
Kun Aguero
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We shall see, it can be read either way. If this rumour is true, that kinect is needed to function, then that it itself = a non purchase for me.
I shall now wait for more concrete info.
Proelite
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It'll be needed to install the games at the very least. Otherwise they'll wont be able to do the architecture where every game is played from the HDD.
Uno Venova
Banned
It's more so, the use of words like 'always connected and online' combined with all the leaks and insiders here saying it will be mandatory online.
Always online wording on it's own probably wouldn't have gotten the same reaction.
Depends. Especially in bulk. Could add up after awhile and we know next gen will be going on for some time
You don't make your future purchasing descisions because of rumors or maybe faked documents? Are you sane?
Same as how games or the OS dont update when you're offline. The OS can be updated via new games including the required software though like the 360 has done for years now.
Oppo
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Stop deflecting, Surly. What part of "will always maintain a network connection" is so hard for you to grasp?
Go look up the word "always", we'll wait.
Again, I hope they have changed their mind on this, I really do, but right now all signs point to just what they said - always online.
Two possible reasons:
1. To provide the least amount of loadtimes
2. To enable pause, resume and fast app switching for all your games.
It has every potential to improve end user experience. Running *all* games from HDD will see shorter load times and less console noise/heat. I'm all for in in principle, as long as it's implement well.
I would imagine the retail discs just contain an installer. The Xbox will install the files required to start playing the game first. This would mean you have a short delay between inserting the new game for the first time and playing, compared with the current wait to install that you get with 360 games.
Between #teamcg and this? I am not sure anymore. Maybe i am the crazy one
soulassssns
Banned
Sounds cool for a rumor
Basileus777
Member
Congrats Sony, your competitors have all made huge blunders. Now let's see if you can take advantage of it.
digoutyoursoul
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Required install, once installed disc is tied to that system, would require a paid unlock to use the disc on other systems? I don't know, all sounds meh to me so far
Codeblew
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So are Pachter's. I guess WiiU wins.
michaelius
Banned
So whose buying next edition of Kinect Sports ?
Yes that's quote from 1984
Karak
Member
For shits and giggles I just checked our instructions book drawer.
I currently have 9 devices that are labeled as always on or more importantly Always Connected in their instructions manuals or RIGHT ON THE FRONT OF THE FUCKING MACHINE.
How many of them are connected to the INTERNET now...2.
How many work...9.
Edit: Make that 10 devices.
EDIT 2: Looking closer Always On appears to be the sleep state in every document that I can find. And always connected means if it is always on and there is an internet connection it will constantly update.
Does that mean the Durango won't be? Nah. Just playing Neogaf words with friends.
And SPE is thinking of this the correct way, regardless of which side or the current rumor he is on.
No one WANTS it for sure. Though I see far more benefits I don't want it because some random gamer may not have that kind of service always available.
Always On, Always Online is the console state, FYI
When you turn off, it's still "on" in a low power state and it's still "connected" as it's able to download updates (if customer wishes), download demos (if customer wishes), and be able to download items that a customer selects through their Xbox Live apps/marketplace website, whatever.
It's not a customer mandate. It's an operating state.
Not hard to grasp at all. When my 360 is off, it doesn't maintain an internet connection. When the Durango is off( if OP is real) it would still be connected to the internet and update automatically. Seems pretty simple a concept to me. Also the exact same thing PS4 is doing.
Fuck yeah (as long as MS do away with the annoying as fuck requirement to have the disc inserted to play installed games).
The Durango will just use physical discs as a medium to get the game data onto the console. Once on the console, there will be no differentiation between digital and retails games. Depending on your internet connection/bandwidth caps etc, it can be faster/more effective to go to the shops and buy the retail disc and install, than download the game from Live/PSN.
So true.
Proelite
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MS in general deserve all the outrage it gets because of how incompetent it has become technically, but with the Durango they're taking the necessary step in the future. Expecting gamers to have at least have shitty and spotty online that they can validate game installs is pretty normal for the year 2013.