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Why is Nintendo's eShop so bad on 3DS?

Relaxed Muscle said:
And yet it should be, more competition is good for consumers, who cares is not that good for publishers? Also iOS makes a fuck ton of money and a lot of companies are happy with it.


And yet it cost the same as some high profile XBLA/PSN games. Ludicrous and propesterous.

I can't understand how some people can defend it.
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Uhhh... publishers?
 
EVH said:
Nope.

Also, I just learned that if I buy a game in retail, I cannot download it afterwards from the eShop. Stupid.
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So sell your 3DS/Wii-U and buy the system that grants you a free downloadable copy of every retail game instead.
 
Are downloaded games tied to the system rather than an account? I ask this because I'm planning to buy a 2nd hand 3DS, and the seller has used the Wipe Data feature but has said I could redownload the previously preloaded game.
 
Airan said:
Are downloaded games tied to the system rather than an account? I ask this because I'm planning to buy a 2nd hand 3DS, and the seller has used the Wipe Data feature but has said I could redownload the previously preloaded game.
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Definitely tied to the system. You could wipe the 3DS itself, then download the games he had prior I think. Ask someone with experience before you do though.

Also, everybody buy Pushmo and submit to your eShop overlords. Also, Beril (developer of Gunman Clive) stated that GC had sold more on the eShop than on the iOS/Android combined. It's because games are much easier to promote, and on the other storefronts you very quickly get buried with crap.
 
Wynnebeck said:
lol See now this is an example of a response I'm going to ignore because you're basically trying to dismiss my issues with eShop because you feel that I don't like it and should be ignored. Take off the glasses.
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Or, you're trying to present your opinions as facts by putting them across as declarations. That's exactly why I wrote my post as I did, and it worked; I don't think the eShop is bad, you do. Some other people think it's bad, some others think it isn't. Asking "why is Nintendo's eShop so bad on 3DS?" suggests it is unanimously and evidently accepted that it's bad and we're discussing why. A better approach would have been to put across your opinion, for and against, and invite discussion. Did you see the huge review scores Bioshock Infinite got yesterday? If I wrote a thread called "why is Bioshock Infinite so bad?", I would be hounded out of here as a troll. It's arrogant to suggest that your opinions should be the leading viewpoint of an entire discussion.

The 3DS eShop has been given a heap of praise from developers and shoppers alike, so it's certainly not a given that it's bad. It has negatives, certainly. I don't particularly like everything about it. But that doesn't make it bad, just like a bad piece of dialogue doesn't make an entire film bad. You're entitled to your opinion, just don't be so leading with it.

Also, I laughed that you said "this is a response I'm going to ignore," before doing the exact opposite.
 
NFreak said:
There was a sale for a game each week for the past month or so. I believe Mutant Mudds is still on sale right now but that's the last game in the sale.
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jwhit28 said:
I picked up Crashmo and Sakura Samurai on sale over the last few weeks. I think Mutant Mudds is on sale now.
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Thank y'all so much! I totally forgot about this and would've been irritated if I'd missed it. Gonna pick it up today.

I trust Man God ain't lying but it seems pretty rare for games I'm interested in to go on sale, so I find myself passing more often than not. I think Europe has gotten more deals than we here in the US have—Pushmo has never been on sale here, AFAIK, even though Crashmo was part of the deal NFreak and jwhit just mentioned.
 
You could be describing a anyone's online store. no one gives discounts for digital copies. But at least the publishers can freely set thier own prices on the Eshop at anytime. So I wouldn't blame nintendo..
 
Here's some semi-anecdotal evidence that eShop games are value for money;

Pushmo.
Price: ÂŁ4.50
Playtime: 40:28

Sakura Samurai
Price: ÂŁ4.50
Playtime: 7:59

Crashmo
Price: ÂŁ7.20
Playtime: 23:30

Gunman Clive
Price: ÂŁ2.99
Playtime: 2:10
 
MasterBalls said:
Here's some semi-anecdotal evidence that eShop games are value for money;

Pushmo.
Price: ÂŁ4.50
Playtime: 40:28

Sakura Samurai
Price: ÂŁ4.50
Playtime: 7:59

Crashmo
Price: ÂŁ7.20
Playtime: 23:30

Gunman Clive
Price: ÂŁ2.99
Playtime: 2:10
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Want me to do that with my Steam library? lol

The fact is I gladly paid for Gunman Clive, but I will never buy these other games.
 
Has only been doing a game a week for the last month or so and previously it was sporadic. I dont know what people are talking about with "sales all the time"
 
Must be annoying not being able to get used to different UI. Everytime I read about how some digital shop is so horrible but then when I use it I get used to it in about 10 mins and don't really have a problem.

Reminds me on my parents who get angry and confused every time they upgrade to a new TV/DVR/DVD player and there is a new remote control.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
Want me to do that with my Steam library? lol

The fact is I gladly paid for Gunman Clive, but I will never buy none of these other games.
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No, I don't want you to do that with your Steam library. You think my point was "The 3DS is the only system that offers lots of value for money?" Seems sort of ignorant. The OP was claiming that all eShop titles were 2-3 hour overprice timewasters, I was contesting that. Also, as others have said, your loss man. Some of the best 3DS games on there.
 
i like it. it's cute and has nice music (although nothing beats the wii shop music)

nintendo are a bit crap on the technical and UI side but everything about their interfaces has so much charm and character
 
Content is fantastic, maybe even phenomenal considering the retail games.


The interface though, oh God the interface. Zero cohesiveness and logical structure, especially considering the differences to the Wii U shop. Really, they should be one and the same.
 
Crewnh said:
Has only been doing a game a week for the last month or so and previously it was sporadic. I dont know what people are talking about with "sales all the time"
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Well... Sales all the time in Europe and Japan. NOA is playing catch up lately in the sales department. At least Wii U is sales heaven (even price drops)
 
PowderedToast said:
i like it. it's cute and has nice music (although nothing beats the wii shop music)

nintendo are a bit crap on the technical and UI side but everything about their interfaces has so much charm and character
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I am not a fan of Nintendo's UI and interfaces on any of their systems, but good god, the music they make for each app is fucking godly.
 
I load the 3DS shop once every few months to get the 1-2 demos that were released in that time period.


Other than that, I didn't even know the 3DS had sales as I never see or hear about them on the internet and I am not going to spend a single cent on any digital Nintendo products until they pull their head out of their ass.
 
kinggroin said:
Content is fantastic, maybe even phenomenal considering the retail games.


The interface though, oh God the interface. Zero cohesiveness, especially considering the differences to the Wii U shop. Really, they should be one and the same.
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Not to be confrontational but how is there zero cohesiveness? There are sections for different content, a search with filters, charts, latest releases and weekly-updated categories showcasing genres, developers characters, regions, functions and more.

The eShop could be better but comments like this read like annoying Internet "all or nothing" opinions, with no middle ground. Cohesiveness could be improved? Probably. Zero cohesiveness? No.
 
I have no problem with it. I open the shop, find what I want, buy it, exit the shop and let it download.
 
It's weird because I spend too much time looking through the eShop just for fun. I don't really have an issue with it because they have a dedicated VC and new releases category. I'm sure it could be better but I'm fine with it.
 
GRW810 said:
Or, you're trying to present your opinions as facts by putting them across as declarations. That's exactly why I wrote my post as I did, and it worked; I don't think the eShop is bad, you do. Some other people think it's bad, some others think it isn't. Asking "why is Nintendo's eShop so bad on 3DS?" suggests it is unanimously and evidently accepted that it's bad and we're discussing why. A better approach would have been to put across your opinion, for and against, and invite discussion. Did you see the huge review scores Bioshock Infinite got yesterday? If I wrote a thread called "why is Bioshock Infinite so bad?", I would be hounded out of here as a troll. It's arrogant to suggest that your opinions should be the leading viewpoint of an entire discussion.

The 3DS eShop has been given a heap of praise from developers and shoppers alike, so it's certainly not a given that it's bad. It has negatives, certainly. I don't particularly like everything about it. But that doesn't make it bad, just like a bad piece of dialogue doesn't make an entire film bad. You're entitled to your opinion, just don't be so leading with it.

Also, I laughed that you said "this is a response I'm going to ignore," before doing the exact opposite.
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The reason I expounded on the first statement was to at least give you the reason why I felt the way about your post which comes across as being dismissive. My title is asked in a question because I'm asking from my point of view. Now, the reason I said to take off the glasses is because I'm getting a lot of comments in here that are basically reduced to: "Nintendo eShop is great to me! OP doesn't know what he's talking about." I have bought DD titles from every major DD service you can think of between 360/PS3/PC but not on eShop and judging from people's experiences with it, I'm starting to see why. I'm willing to give eShop a shot but the UI and layout of the store is definitely not winning it any points off the bat.

Brainiac 8 said:
The eshop is pretty awesome and I have so many games I've downloaded so far. Plus Harmonoknight is on the way.
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I did download the demo for that last night and it was super fun especially after playing Theatrhythm. I like the rhythm games on 3DS.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
The eShop is leagues better then the PS3 PSN store. By far the worst store out right now.
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no and no,sorry there is a LOT more content on the ps3 store and you got a LOT of sales on the psn store,so NO ( and you can still use a account system no matter what ps3 you use) so no,its light a day and i find amusing that someone can compare the two
 
Airan said:
That's silly. What if my 3DS breaks? C'mon now, Nintendo.
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If you're in a bind and have no way to transfer the information from one device to the next (ie. theft/broken device) then you can call in and they will allow to download the info. on the new device at no cost. It can be a bit of a tedious process though.

Zen_Arcade said:
The eShop is leagues better then the PS3 PSN store. By far the worst store out right now.
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That's my experience as well.

Really makes me wonder how Nintendo has the reputation it has for online services as it's blown away Sony in that area since 3DS/Wii U came out.
 
Wynnebeck said:
The reason I expounded on the first statement was to at least give you the reason why I felt the way about your post which comes across as being dismissive. My title is asked in a question because I'm asking from my point of view. Now, the reason I said to take off the glasses is because I'm getting a lot of comments in here that are basically reduced to: "Nintendo eShop is great to me! OP doesn't know what he's talking about." I have bought DD titles from every major DD service you can think of between 360/PS3/PC but not on eShop and judging from people's experiences with it, I'm starting to see why. I'm willing to give eShop a shot but the UI and layout of the store is definitely not winning it any points off the bat.
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None of your opinions are wrong and hold a good deal of weight. I personally think it's very good, but hampered by non-shop issues. People are moaning about account systems, but that's a console thing, not an eShop thing. There aren't enough demoes but that doesn't reflect the quality of the store but developers getting a demo out there. On the other end of the scale people saying "x game is good" aren't really addressing the topic, which I gather to be about the functionality of the store, not the content.

There are people in here so hyperbolic in their arguments it's almost impossible to take them seriously, and that applies both to those who like and dislike the eShop. Saying it is perfect, or disliking one aspect and deciding the whole thing is shit. There seems to be a lack of constructive, realistic analysis.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
The eShop is leagues better then the PS3 PSN store. By far the worst store out right now.
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I use store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com to browse PSN and buy stuff. And while the redesign was bad it's still more appealing to me (!) than the eShop (content, price, design).
 
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