metalslimer
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Yes the touchscreen has no gaming applications. Things would be nice if there wasnt complete hyperbole
Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4
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Yes the touchscreen has no gaming applications. Things would be nice if there wasnt complete hyperbole
The last time I saw an ego this big it was on en episode of Futurama.
Motion and touch based gaming aren't important?
not_so_special
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The DS absolutely changed the landscape of gaming with the touchscreen interface that every mobile device on the planet now utilizes. There's no wiggle room on that at all.
And that's ignoring the Wii entirely, too.
JordanN
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Well Gamecube got a shot at Soul Calibur.
How come no future Nintendo console has ever come close to this?
mysteriousmage09
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God damn, Epic just poured a thick layer of concrete over Wii U's grave.
I feel like I need to quote Rein here.
Jaded Alyx
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Touch-screen gaming.
I would make a witty retort along the lines of "is that a trick question" to the bolded but christ, Rein. That's some ego behind that line of statement.
Chie Satonaka
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discussig what? that people laugh at the response? seriously?
This is so perfect, I don't even need to say anything else.
They started motion controls and RUINED gaming as we knew it. But did create a huge niche market for casuals that every real console now wants a piece of.
AZ Greg
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No doubt. I just always get a chuckle out of when people think Nintendo just happened to realize traditional gaming was stale and so decided to grace us with some new unique way to play. It was simply product differentiation once they realized they couldn't compete in a market they once dominated.
Pretty games were not the reason to buy Wii and they shouldn't be the reason to buy a Wii U.
Nintendo needs to do something interesting with the touch pad to market the system. They could get some tablet like software for the system and market the touch pad as a cheap tablet that can play Mario or something else.
Cause right now it just seems like a 299-350 touch pad add on to the Wii.
Nintendo needs to do something interesting with the touch pad to market the system. They could get some tablet like software for the system and market the touch pad as a cheap tablet that can play Mario or something else.
Cause right now it just seems like a 299-350 touch pad add on to the Wii.
Blood Diamonds
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Eh?
Ruined? Not looking for an argument or anything but please explain c:
Come close to what? A fighting game that sold because they gave them Link? ...and what good did it do them....their lowest selling console ever?
A lot of people like motion controls who aren't "casuals."
lol
At this rate Wiiu would be lucky to get half the third party support of wii, this is system is looking like it will have the lowest third party support of any Nintendo console thus far.
At this rate Wiiu would be lucky to get half the third party support of wii, this is system is looking like it will have the lowest third party support of any Nintendo console thus far.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Maybe not the Wii but the Wii U is going to have some REALLY good looking games.
Version 3.0
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It absolutely would receive more support if it were more powerful. That's not even debatable. How could you think otherwise?
However, if what you are trying to say is that there are other factors at play, it's true. Hardware power is just one, and maybe not even the biggest. There's the age-old "3rd party games don't sell", the "kiddie image", the "online sucks", the "lack of controller parity", and so on - all of which have at least some truth to them.
Wickerbasket
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It would have been a better game without the forced motion controls.
Motion controls have their place, but they shouldn't be shoehorned onto games they don't belong in.
And what good has that done? If motion controls on a console were so important to the industry why didn't Nintendo double down on it instead of a resistive tablet imitator that doesn't match up to an iPad, kindle, or android tablet? For the money you can spend on a Wii the average consumer can get a fully functional tablet that actually has something that the Wii U doen't have, games.
You are obviously forgetting this unforgettable, emotional, epic, visceral trend setter.
I bet you Nintendo has not done a thing to reach out to devs concerning the Wii U and its hardware. Nobody is going to want to develop on a system thats so weak and slow compared to the others.
JordanN
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I'm confused how people can say specs doesn't mean more support.
Why is Sony investing so much RAM and processing power in PS4 if none of that is suppose to make a difference?
Would you not agree that's bad business?
In fact, why did consoles ever evolve past the 8-bit days? Developers don't care right?
Why is Sony investing so much RAM and processing power in PS4 if none of that is suppose to make a difference?
Would you not agree that's bad business?
In fact, why did consoles ever evolve past the 8-bit days? Developers don't care right?
Dave Meltzer
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I'm not sure who you think you're talking to, but you're talking to somebody who doesn't want any game to be console exclusive. I don't believe in having three consoles. There should just be one platform. So with that said, you can save your "wahh stop saying Nintendo should go third party just so you'll be happy" routine. I want everyone to go third party.
The difference with Nintendo is it's hard to see any reason for them NOT to go third party. Wii U is obviously going to be a disaster. In 4-5 years, when they release another console, I just can't envision the market for dedicated home consoles even existing anymore. It's incredibly difficult to imagine Nintendo going on for 10, 20, 30 years with this model. It's simply prehistoric nowdays.
I'll buy a Wii U when it gets some games I want to play. I don't care THAT much I have to do it, although obviously I'd rather Nintendo's games be on superior hardware. But the point is the market is the thing making me think Nintendo should go third party, not my own desire to not spend a couple of hundred dollars.
Yeah, I edited because that was a really dumb way to respond to the post I quoted, and I realized that it was just going to lead to a dumb back-and-forth of "I like a thing." "That thing is stupid and ruined everything." "Well I like it." "Well I hate it and it sucks."
Version 3.0
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It could be a close race with the N64.
By the way, the Wii had tremendous support. More 3rd party titles than the 360 or PS3, in fact, just very few that were objectively "good".
Don't worry man, you can still play many Dudebros!
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Because sales dictate support more than anything else.
Could you imagine the excuses if it was ultra powerful???
They'd be the same ol song and dance.
Ooh shit, I actually said damn IRL.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
You are obviously forgetting this unforgettable, emotional, epic, visceral trend setter.
I know. What were they thinking? No other company would promote their console like that....
http://youtu.be/TYY-J3ckeSI?t=2m29s
Good fucking question. I was furious when Nintendo revealed the GamePad, seriously. They had a great thing going and decided to put it on the sidelines for terrible, terrible reasons.
Thunder Monkey
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And motion control.
I mean... the system was a GCN with higher clocks and more memory. It's only defining feature the controller took the console to 100 million units. The GCN itself was a tech beast for it's time and sold 21 million units.
The issue with WiiU isn't its tech if Nintendo was wanting another Wii. It's the core idea of the console itself. It's defining feature isn't defining. It's not new, original, inventive, or daring. The tech inside it isn't powerful enough to be that defining feature in it's place.
I'm not one to ascribe to theory without proof, but part of me thinks there might be merit to JordanN's idea that the console was intended to literally be a console/handheld hybrid, but the tech wasn't there.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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You mean like free middleware, clickable sticks, no charging for patches, etc...
We get it that you don't like Nintendo but please do some research and have some common sense.
Okay, one more for me.
The thing is, people are still making PS3 and 360 games and not porting them to Wii U despite it being powerful enough for them. What would making it more powerful do? So now it would be powerful enough for PS4 and 720 games, but not receive those either? Wii U isn't "too weak" if we're still getting tons of PS3 and 360 games that can potentially be ported. Just because everyone already has a 360 or PS3 isn't an excuse, but everyone's also already planning to get a 720 or PS4.
fly high ~ayunite~
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So glad I didn't a buy a Wii U. Dodged a real bullet.
not_so_special
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no,seriously,you seem very molest because some people laugh at that panel and you extrapolate that to the whole development comunity and gaming press
Because motion controls are dumb in alot of people's opinion. At least give option of completely turning off wiggle controls.
Press button to swing a sword > swing my arm about to swing my sword.
Playing a platformer and pressing button to break a block > shaking controller about to break a block.
Mr_Antimatter
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I think they just overestimated the appeal of their chosen novelty. Note how they used a similar heavy novelty push for the 3ds, before shifting their marketing to a games focused one rather then 3d focused.
They could do the same here, but they would need a massive screw up on sony/MS's side, or a massive megaton of a surprise announcement, to regain momentum.
It's not a tablet. It's a controller with a screen. If anything it's an oversized handheld if you are going to compare it to something it isn't.
And it has motion controls and Wiimotes can still be used with it.
Even if you disagree with Nintendo's direction the last decade, this is a pretty fucking ignorant post.
Unless the Wiimote and motion gaming suddenly doesn't count, nor the DS's touchscreen.
Dave Meltzer
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Go read some of those old Wii U Speculation threads where people were getting excited about how much of a leap over 360 and PS3 Wii U was going to be.
Some people only care when it suits their interests
JordanN
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Link was on the Wii but there was no Soul Calibur IV.
Heart of Black
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This is strange... I had a talk with Mark Rein & he told me UE4 will be a very versatile engine that will work with small and large games alike... so why won't it work on a modest chipset like Wii U?
It's certainly more powerful than an ipad...
It's certainly more powerful than an ipad...
metalslimer
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By the end of the year Nintendo will probably barely acknowledge the gamepad.
If Toyota did this when they bet on hybrid engines 15 years ago and the whole car industry were laughing at them... An industry laughing at you is not a good barometer. Better to try and see if it succeeds... or crashes.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's the thing, people don't read.
It's not that it CAN'T run the engine, it's that it WON'T.
This is actually old news that people are acting like is "breaking".
They also didn't get SCIII.
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