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[CarbonatedFalcon]

Ramps.

Yeah, Halo CE was really not ADA friendly with all those ladders. We've made progress with the teleporter though!

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Good thing for 343 they didn't do a spring or summer beta for Halo 4.
I would have probably cancelled my preorder.

Halo 4 it is a good game but it isn't halo 1,2 or 3.
Aargh dont even know what to feel anger or sadness that such a big part of my gaming life died.

I know that feeling. If it weren't called Halo and was reskinned it would be a decent game. However it's not Halo at all. I love the franchise however for me it died with Halo: Reach. As far as I'm concerned everything post 343 doesn't exist. That simple for me.

 

[King Beyond the wall]

So, how can they make it more accessible?

They just need to keep moving towards the Cod formulae. They took some great strides towards this with halo 4, introducing things like sprint for everyone, hit markers, kill streaks, immediate spawn, and create a class. I would imagine that we will see a refinement (closer copying of call of duty) for the kill streaks system in halo 5, being able to customise it and having vehicles and orbital strikes called in, not just weapons.

 

[Ghazi]

Yep...

LMFAO #2

 

[dragonelite]

I know that feeling. If it weren't called Halo and was reskinned it would be a decent game. However it's not Halo at all. I love the franchise however for me it died with Halo: Reach. As far as I'm concerned everything post 343 doesn't exist. That simple for me.

Halo was one of the IP that really chained me to the xbox brand/console gaming.
Now im not even sure i will even need a next gen console day one.

 

[Vire]

They just need to keep moving towards the Cod formulae. They took some great strides towards this with halo 4, introducing things like sprint for everyone, hit markers, kill streaks, immediate spawn, and create a class. I would imagine that we will see a refinement (closer copying of call of duty) for the kill streaks system in halo 5, being able to customise it and having vehicles and orbital strikes called in, not just weapons.

 

[ii Stryker]

Im pretty sure cod craze really started with mw2.

All my friends abandoned Halo 3 when CoD4 was released and have never looked back and we played a ton of Halo 2 on og xbox.

Partly due to the progression system on the CoD games but mostly because CoD is easy and simple.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Now more than ever we need

Spoiler

Combat Evolved 2.

 

[harSon]

I'm glad the game has been removed from competitive circles and is no longer being catered towards hardcore traditionalists. The game has seen far too little evolution since the first game released, and that's due in great part to the developers having to cater towards those two groups at every turn.

 

[dalVlatko]

:/

Yeah, I think I'm done with Halo.

Reach almost killed the series for me but I decided to give 343 a chance with Halo 4.

Instead of addressing the community's complaints they just doubled down on all of the things I hated about Reach.

The story went in a direction I didn't like either so there isn't even that to look forward to with Halo 5.

 

[ArchedThunder]

All my friends abandoned Halo 3 when CoD4 was released and have never looked back and we played a ton of Halo 2 on og xbox.

Partly due to the progression system on the CoD games but mostly because CoD is easy and simple.

Halo 3 and COD4 fought neck and neck for the top spot.

 

[Satchel]

Commence the hate on the best mp experience after halo ce.

Only if you play SWAT to be fair.

I don't enjoy the rest. Bt then, I don't enjoy traditional Halo multiplayer anymore anyway, since well before 4. SWAT was a godsend. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[_woLf]

Here's hoping Halo 2 and 3 on PC is a real thing...someday.

 

[dragonelite]

Yeah, I think I'm done with Halo.

Reach almost killed the series for me but I decided to give 343 a chance with Halo 4.

Instead of addressing the community's complaints they just doubled down on all of the things I hated about Reach.

The story went in a direction I didn't like either so there isn't even that to look forward to with Halo 5.

Halo 3 and COD4 fought neck and neck for the top spot.

I looked up some charts and Halo 3 was even competing with mw2.
And just like i remembered Halo 3 was top spot when cod4 came out.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Here's hoping Halo 2 and 3 on PC is a real thing...someday.

Halo 2 has been on PC since 2007.

 

[Overdoziz]

Halo 2 has been on PC since 2007.

Has it really, though?

 

[ii Stryker]

I looked up some charts and Halo 3 was even competing with mw2.
And just like i remembered Halo 3 was top spot when cod4 came out.

source? I was trying to look it up on Major Nelson but that's proving to be a pain

On release this may have been the case but after a few months I remember CoD4 finally over taking Halo 3 for good.

At any rate when 343i was i development with Halo 4 at least 2 CoD games were charting higher then Reach and I guess they figured the progression system was one of the primary reasons for this.

 

[_woLf]

Halo 2 has been on PC since 2007.

I more so meant the rumored Steam releases. Halo 2 Vista was absolute shit.

 

[dragonelite]

source? I was trying to look it up on Major Nelson but that's proving to be a pain

On release this may have been the case but after a few months I remember CoD4 finally over taking Halo 3 for good.

At any rate when 343i was i development with Halo 4 at least 2 CoD games were charting higher then Reach and I guess they figured the progression system was one of the primary reasons for this.

Here went as far as 2009 ish

http://majornelson.com/page/8/?s=LIVE+Activity

Halo 3 had some online legs that is for sure.

 

[Sanic]

:/

So by "contextualize our universe", they really mean they're going to remove enough halo/genre specific context such that they can make it accessible to the absolute lowest common denominator.

edit: I would really like to hear what was said on that slide.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Halo 4 single player was alright, but the multiplayer is just fucking terrible. I'm happy to see the tremendous drop off in player counts and to read the backlash. Most of the changes make no sense at all for a Halo game, hell not even for any balanced multiplayer game.

They should just change the name of multiplayer from Infinity to "Clusterfuck" to be appropriate for what it is.

LOL. Just amazing.

 

[IHaveIce]

Halo 2 has been on PC since 2007.

The vista port wasn't good

 

[Baconsammy]

Halo just lacks depth to me. I know not every game is Fallout. Borderlands isn't Fallout, but it has far more depth than Halo and it's just as arcadey and fun to play. The whole "go here, shoot this, push that, return, go there, shoot that, push this button" is just really zzzzzz imo. The fun of Halo for me had been firefight and they ditched it in 4 and replaced it with the god-awful Spartan Ops. Blech.

 

[GrizzNKev]

Halo 3 Master Chief in a wheelchair, huh? I guess that sums it up pretty well. RIP Halo. This time I'm not joking.

 

[Azar]

Really says a lot when the session is empty as hell. Nobody even wants to bother attending a session about the game.

No it doesn't. It's the last day of the show, and in the afternoon, and up against at least one hot button issue panel.

 

[Shake Appeal]

:/

This is it. This is my soul leaving my body.

Like, this image is so tone deaf it encapsulates, in one image, my understanding of 343's understanding of their audience.

 

[Photolysis]

I'm so glad I didn't care for the franchise as of H4, because it really sounds like 343i have no idea what they're doing and are blindly chasing after the CoD crowd, destroying their franchise in the process.

 

[Surface of Me]

Halo 2 HD is the last hope of a classic Halo MP experience, but I have my doubt about it having online MP.

 

[Blake'sGrave]

Yeah the graphics were great, but all they did was distract from the super unimaginative level design, such a sadly disappointing game

 

[Schmitty]

Halo 2 HD is the last hope of a classic Halo MP experience, but I have my doubt about it having online MP.

Only if the graphics are updated and no other changes

 

[King Beyond the wall]

Haha the best and most appropriate gif I have ever seen.

 

[dalVlatko]

source? I was trying to look it up on Major Nelson but that's proving to be a pain

On release this may have been the case but after a few months I remember CoD4 finally over taking Halo 3 for good.

At any rate when 343i was i development with Halo 4 at least 2 CoD games were charting higher then Reach and I guess they figured the progression system was one of the primary reasons for this.

http://majornelson.com/2009/01/04/the-top-20-live-games-of-2008/

COD4 and Halo 3 were going back and forth for most of the year

Jul 30th 2008

For the second week in a row, Halo 3 has successfully defended its golden "most played Xbox Live game" crown from the angry, desperate hands of Call of Duty 4. Major Nelson just posted the Xbox Live activity for the week of July 21st, where GHIII makes the list at 5th most played game, Gears of War at 4th, GTAIV at 3rd, CoD4 at a respectable 2nd and Halo 3 sitting atop everyone in 1st. Looks to us like we have a heated Xbox Live popularity contest a brewing. Quick, pop some popcorn!

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/30/halo-3-holds-onto-its-newly-found-xbox-live-crown/

 

[ArchedThunder]

Halo 2 HD is the last hope of a classic Halo MP experience, but I have my doubt about it having online MP.

You'll get an HD make over of campaign and a map pack, as to not eat into the population of Halo 4. Which at that time, November 2014, will probably be around 10,000 at peek hours.

 

[Phonomezer]

Campaign was not without its faults, but it was a very good game. Compare it to 90% of other games released in the same genre; it's better.

 

[Tawpgun]

Oh jeez.

 

[Seance]

Goodbye, Halo.

I made my peace last year. 2 years late, but never too late to let go.

 

[ExigentContact]

Graphics and reviews make a game? Ok.
Also the only thing good about the graphics is the lighting, everything else, especially texures and skyboxes, is terrible.

You forgot about the godawful LOD system and the serious sandbox cuts they had to make their fancy graphical elements work (such as severely truncated level scope -- playing in tubes is fun, right?).

The best looking thing about Halo 4 is the cutscenes, and they beat the in-game graphics by a goddamn country mile. The game itself is mediocre at best.

 

[Baconsammy]

:/

This is an actual pic from Microsoft? Where's the Oh Lawdy! baby gif? What the hell?

 

[bobs...onGaf]

http://majornelson.com/2009/01/04/the-top-20-live-games-of-2008/

COD4 and Halo 3 were going back and forth for most of the year



http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/30/halo-3-holds-onto-its-newly-found-xbox-live-crown/

Halo 3 held the crown in 2009 too:

http://majornelson.com/2010/01/11/the-top-20-live-games-of-2009/

It was in 2010 when Reach came out that Black Ops obliterated it. I was one of the hardcore fans that played a ton more Black Ops than Halo Reach so I wasn't even surprised.

You forgot about the godawful LOD system and the serious sandbox cuts they had to make their fancy graphical elements work (such as severely truncated level scope -- playing in tubes is fun, right?).

The best looking thing about Halo 4 is the cutscenes, and they beat the in-game graphics by a goddamn country mile. The game itself is mediocre at best.

This... everyone who praises Halo 4's graphics forgets that it was gameplay they sacrificed for those graphics. The art isnt even that amazing, I prefer Bioshock Infinite which has tons of amazing things to look at everywhere than Halo 4, which was pretty but had dull art direction. Graphics without good art is not worth it, especially when they made so many cutbacks to accomodate those graphics.

 

[TheOddOne]

 

[King Beyond the wall]

Damage control

 

[Igo]

I am certain that people here were going nuts over this game and loving the shit out of it when it was released. Did I miss the memo that it was time to hate it?

I too remember all the "Bungie who?" posts. How long did that last?

 

[Phonomezer]

You'd think most people would be intelligent enough to get that and he wouldn't have to tweet about it. But then these ARE Halo fans....

 

[Sojgat]

hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrggggghhhh...

 

[Shake Appeal]

Josh, here's a proposition: you get to make the jokes once you make a good multiplayer Halo game.

 

[Baconsammy]

The problem with the pic isn't Chief in a wheel chair. It's the text next to it!

 

[Simzyy]

As 343i have like unlimited funds and low chance of flopping commercially for the next Halo they should go full on back to basics.

I mean remove armor abilities, sprinting, everything and just remake Halo 2/CE MP completely.

Just to see if it retains players or if the franchise is just suffering from fatigue.

 

[dragonelite]

Ooh man do you even communicate with your community.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

:/

literally everything about this image is offensive.

 

[Shake Appeal]

As 343i have like unlimited funds and low chance of flopping commercially for the next Halo they should go full on back to basics.

I mean remove armor abilities, sprinting, everything and just remake Halo 2/CE MP completely.

Just to see if it retains players or if the franchise is just suffering from fatigue.

Yeah, no, this isn't going to happen.