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Stream numbers contradict this conjecture.

Unless SF4 is also barely watchable too. In which case I couldn't even categorize the rest of the games there, but I'd rather not be deconstructive by doing so.

Also you probably don't want to go into the 3/5 thing after how that argument went last time it was brought up.

I was speaking in hyperbole as a response to hyperbole. It basically came down to whining because a game that that dude didn't like was getting the community requested set up. I get why Marvel has the 3/5 sets but I accept that's what the community wants.

It seems pretty dumb that so many people here are complaining about this when SF4 which has a relatively equal draw for stream numbers/tournament competitor numbers got 1/3 of the overall stream time as Marvel so far.


Serious question here. Had the 5on5 not happened but it would guarantee seeing at least top 16 down to top 8 for Marvel, in exchange for allowing more stream time for all the games would you all have preferred that?
 
Wel good for you it wasnt streamed as much today! ;)

Not a fan of Tekken/MK/DOA either, so all I had to watch today was Persona. Tekken has its fans, it deserves time. (Tekken is just too hard for me to watch, but 3d is hard to watch sometimes unless you understand the chars)

VF didn't even get streamed, and one of my local friends got 2nd. (even if he uses that annoying Kage)

Yesterday was KOF, but KOF skill level seemed down from last year until top 8. KOF is just too hard/too high maintenance for enough folks to play it, especially since getting matchup experience is so hard in the US.
 
Evo has about a million games to be streamed in 3 days. Somebody is getting the shortend of the stick there, and some people gon be mad

and by some people, I mean P4A people
 
Is this actually true? I've asked multiple times why the Tekken community runs 3/5 matches and no one's ever actually explained why.



I know Kor was one of the first players to ask for 3/5 late last year. Saying the damage is too high and matches end too quickly


as someone who doesnt know alot of tekken and is more of a casual obvserver i sure as hell dont think a game with 3/5 rounds is fast and needs 3/5 matches to boot.
 
Personally I don't care that Tekken has 3/5 rounds, 3/5 games. More games/rounds the better, you have a better feel of who really came out on top. I haven't played TTT2 much but most of the Tekken have rounds that can end super fast with just one combo into wake up mix up leading into another combo that will most likely finish you off.

Had the 5on5 not happened but it would guarantee seeing at least top 16 down to top 8 for Marvel, in exchange for allowing more stream time for all the games would you all have preferred that?
The singles tournament is more important than the 5v5. The 5v5 format was ass and not really indicative of which team was actually better (1 round Marvel between players? The fuck outta here).
 
Is this actually true? I've asked multiple times why the Tekken community runs 3/5 matches and no one's ever actually explained why.

I'd assume that because good launcher combos can usually kill folks in 2 or 3 connects. Wall combos are even more damage, etc. 3/5 is likely a way of mitigating getting blown up really quickly plus it's a lot more satisfying to the players. Pools were 2/3 for TTT2 though, I think.
 
One Tekken rule change I'd love to see, real talk, is banning the use of clones on a team. Learn to play multiple characters. I mean I know there are some slight differences between the clones but it almost defeats the purpose of a tag game.
 
Is anyone actually blaming any other game here for Marvel not getting streamed? Its the fault of the stream scheduling and/or tournament logistics and not much else. I'd watch Marvel over Tekken any day of the week but I don't think another game should be bumped for Marvel. If anything, the stream/tournament schedule needed to be tighter or able to accommodate all the extra matches via a poverty/backup stream.

I was speaking in hyperbole as a response to hyperbole. It basically came down to whining because a game that that dude didn't like was getting the community requested set up. I get why Marvel has the 3/5 sets but I accept that's what the community wants.

It seems pretty dumb that so many people here are complaining about this when SF4 which has a relatively equal draw for stream numbers/tournament competitor numbers got 1/3 of the overall stream time as Marvel so far.

Serious question here. Had the 5on5 not happened but it would guarantee seeing at least top 16 down to top 8 for Marvel, in exchange for allowing more stream time for all the games would you all have preferred that?
Ah I see, should've quoted what you were responding to so there wasn't a misconception.

SF only got 1/3 of the stream time because of the CM exhibition really, which went WAY over time and was generally poorly handled. I mean, it was fun, but it was also INSANELY long and ran way overtime, to the point where it was conflicting with the sponsored DS:R exhibition. I think everyone would have preferred what you suggest, it's not really about stream time in general, it's about streaming the matches that matter most. Let's be real, unless there is an uber stacked pool, people don't care for watching pool matches, they want the Top ## stuff.
 
Serious question here. Had the 5on5 not happened but it would guarantee seeing at least top 16 down to top 8 for Marvel, in exchange for allowing more stream time for all the games would you all have preferred that?

i don't know about other people, but i would have. i don't care about 5on5 team tournaments
 
So sad. If this was old school spooky he would have admitted he fucked up. I guess he is too hollywood for that these days. All this esports shit has gone to his head.

Don't forget, Spooky has been hired to stream FR, so he shows on stream whatever the organizers wants him to show
 
One Tekken rule change I'd love to see, real talk, is banning the use of clones on a team. Learn to play multiple characters. I mean I know there are some slight differences between the clones but it almost defeats the purpose of a tag game.

What? Are you serious?

Should we ban Ryu/Ken or Ryu/Sakura from SFxT, then?
 
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Im REALLy salty we are missing Kanes run. hes having a fucking spectacular run right now if he beats Justin to get top 8? Amazing. Hope he does beat Justin.
 
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Im REALLy salty we are missing Kanes run. hes having a fucking spectacular run right now if he beats Justin to get top 8? Amazing. Hope he does beat Justin.

Seems it could have been this years Marvel moment...

It's what the players want that signed up and play, which I think is the most important thing, and luckily for the tekken guys, larry was able to accommodate them.

Makes sense as ATL/FR has tekken legacy.

Just because the players want it doesn't mean its a good tournament format.
 
One Tekken rule change I'd love to see, real talk, is banning the use of clones on a team. Learn to play multiple characters. I mean I know there are some slight differences between the clones but it almost defeats the purpose of a tag game.

That's the problem with trying to include everyone on the roster. Tekken really needs to pare its roster Tekken 3-4 style again.

Even the VF roster is getting a bit big now.
 
I'd assume that because good launcher combos can usually kill folks in 2 or 3 connects. Wall combos are even more damage, etc. 3/5 is likely a way of mitigating getting blown up really quickly plus it's a lot more satisfying to the players. Pools were 2/3 for TTT2 though, I think.
They were. I don't think anyone has an issue really, with 3/5 games for a set win. It's understandable given how the game plays. It's just that 3/5 sets for a match win outside of WF/LF/GF is going to lead to lots of twenty-minute to half-hour matches, which, outside of EVO Grand Finals, is generally not a good look.
 
i don't know about other people, but i would have. i don't care about 5on5 team tournaments

It's hindsight though. If it wasn't streamed and something happened that was cool, then people would be pissed.

What if people said why wasn't the chrisg streamroll streamed, that was hot!
 
Is anyone actually blaming any other game here for Marvel not getting streamed? Its the fault of the stream scheduling and/or tournament logistics and not much else. I'd watch Marvel over Tekken any day of the week but I don't think another game should be bumped for Marvel. If anything, the stream/tournament schedule needed to be tighter or able to accommodate all the extra matches via a poverty/backup stream.

Or if marvel folks want their own stream, support people that are willing to do it. If no one wants to do that, then gotta deal with the schedule.
 
Is anyone actually blaming any other game here for Marvel not getting streamed? Its the fault of the stream scheduling and/or tournament logistics and not much else. I'd watch Marvel over Tekken any day of the week but I don't think another game should be bumped for Marvel. If anything, the stream/tournament schedule needed to be tighter or able to accommodate all the extra matches via a poverty/backup stream.

This. This is also why the people who are like CRY MOAR MINIONS really piss me off, because I'm not saying Marvel should be streamed instead of your precious game, but that because the schedule got jacked Marvel top 32 got shafted (to an extent no other game's top 32 did, except for VF apparently) and since there's at least 2+ streamers there not streaming anything it's pretty reasonable to be upset that it wasn't put on one of those. Fucking Christ.

Or if marvel folks want their own stream, support people that are willing to do it. If no one wants to do that, then gotta deal with the schedule.

But the schedule was for the 2 hours of AE that we got tonight to be last night. No one can argue with the fact that if the schedule hadn't gone to shit yesterday at least some of these Marvel matches would have happened tonight.
 
They did not meet their schedule. They fucked marvel over. While they used it as the main attraction in their trailer.



So sad. If this was old school spooky he would have admitted he fucked up. I guess he is too hollywood for that these days. All this esports shit has gone to his head.



Marvel was scheduled to be streamed a certain amount and they fucked it up. Marvel had the most sign ups at Final Round (and already the most viewers) so it's not like it is the king dick without proper reason. If these other fighters feel like they are getting overshadowed by Marvel support your community raise money and help streamers from that community stream the games.

And you call Spooky a drama queen?
 
Oh man this KBR vs Justin Wong match is hype as fuck!

Hulk st.H's Wolverine's Dive Kick, ground bounce into death.

Storm evades the incoming mix up.

Hailstorm -> Hulk counters with Gamma Crush DHC into HSF

JUSTIN RAGING DEMONS!!!!

Crowd goes nuts!

Anchor battle between the Machine and Akuma.... Justin gets the grab and OMG he is about to take it!


..... or something.
 
There's nothing to blame anyone for. Spooky and Larry haven't done anything wrong. It's also ironic that this GeoNeo guy is actually calling other people drama queens.
 
Seems it could have been this years Marvel moment...



Just because the players want it doesn't mean its a good tournament format.

Not for the general FGC streaming maybe, and particularity not the capcom only fans.

It's a good format for the tekken players, and good format for tekken fans that watch streams.
 
It's hindsight though. If it wasn't streamed and something happened that was cool, then people would be pissed.

What if people said why wasn't the chrisg streamroll streamed, that was hot!

nah, it's not hindsight for me personally. i just don't like the 5on5 format and i'd rather see more of the actual tournament, which i find a lot more exciting
 
Or if marvel folks want their own stream, support people that are willing to do it. If no one wants to do that, then gotta deal with the schedule.
This is kinda tough, because anyone wants to stream the game because it brings in viewers, and streaming logistics are tough enough. You can't give people everything they want.

Not only that, TOs want the game on their main stream(s) because it brings in viewers and will likely get more exposure on those streams too. I edited my previous post in response to vulva but this thread is moving fast, but I'll say it again: It's not about the raw amount of stream time, it's about streaming the right matches.
 
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