Fighting Games Weekly | April 1-7 | And after 0-3, he has risen
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Seasoned Badger
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If fighting games (capcom ones) included the frame data/hit box data in game they won't be able to make a profit from strategy guides. When they released Street Fighter Alpha Anthology in America they removed the in game move list so people would have to buy the Brady game guide.
It's bad for consumers but good for business and we know which one Capcom values.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Yea, I have been thinking about the stage/item stuff all day and how this concept can be taken even further and even more integrated into the game design, haha. I really like it.
I really don't like the engine feel either. I don't get those animations still. Do they shoot for that, or do they review and go, that's the best we can do, it is what it is. So stiff. Hand key that stuff man!
RockTurtle
Member
Oh, good, I wasn't the only one who was thinking of that game.
Oh man.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
the hate is strong in this thread
Marvel is dying, people have to vent somehow.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
what a pizza shit
Ragingnight
Member
i can already imagine neogaf on blast by XYZ "a bunch of marvel minions"
Hope you guys enjoyed the Injustice tutorial. The main thing I did not mention in the video was how you actually initiate the clash:
F~LT+RT+B on xbox
F~Circle+L2+R2 on PS3
can only activate it round 2.
As for the graphics..man w/e, people play SFXT which looks way way way way worse. I hope people can look past that and enjoy the game for what it is! I don't mind the graphics in this game as all seeing how I fucked w/MK9 sooo..yeah.
F~LT+RT+B on xbox
F~Circle+L2+R2 on PS3
can only activate it round 2.
As for the graphics..man w/e, people play SFXT which looks way way way way worse. I hope people can look past that and enjoy the game for what it is! I don't mind the graphics in this game as all seeing how I fucked w/MK9 sooo..yeah.
Yea the modelling is not the best
But the design direction is on point. I hate it when I see "super model" Dianas in comics. Her body type is suppose to be above athletic.
Yeah.. upon further inspection part of it is because the bones are ready to burst out of her skin. X-Ray mode DLC incoming?
ipitydatfu
Member
Worse?!?! C'mon Art, I love you, but...no chance in hell dude!
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Injustice is butthole ugly, but yeah SFxT is def worse.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
art, you don't have to lie to us, we still love you
RockTurtle
Member
so LIJoe is straight eating raw cake mix with a gallon of milk on the side. and with the rumors abotu ChrisG's diet, the FGC is promoting bad nutrition!
What the hell? I can understand having a penchant for more realistic graphics, but the animations put it below SFxT. The only thing SFxT has worse is the contrast set to 11 and Man shoulders on the women.
What the hell? I can understand having a penchant for more realistic graphics, but the animations put it below SFxT. The only thing SFxT has worse is the contrast set to 11 and Man shoulders on the women.
It's actually pretty rare for guides to include frame data, as it is often considered a trade secret. Besides, if companies want fighting games to attract and retain new players, teaching them how to play using the game itself is a great place to start.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Correct me if I am wrong (I am probably remembering wrong), but I think there was a tekken podcast somewhere with michael murray or something, where they talked about why Namco doesn't release frame data for tekken 6 (I think).
I guess the gist of it was because the frame data is the heart of the game (it drives the engine under the hood, with all the move interactions), and that what drives the arcade players to keep playing, to discover the frame data (among other things). To release the frame data was to take the discovery away or something.
Maybe that's why these Japanese companies don't release it all the time officially.
Again, I might be wrong on remembering this.
This is masterful.
GhostRidah
Member
Well from everything I have seen about the game they never mentioned once about how online/netcode, I mean if your last game had one of the worst netcodes wouldn't you promote that you improved it? Not looking good but I hope for its sake its better than MK.
SolarPowered
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I'm just mad they aren't making a PC port. I don't touch my PS3 since it seems to be bi-polar and works when it wants to. The only fighter I've bought for the PC is AE(which looks so much better than the console version), but I could use more variety.
oh boy...
Eh, different strokes for different folks. They're on par for the "bleh" awards imo.
Yeah, they've been completely quiet on the netcode now that I think about it.
oh boy...
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Injustice is kinda like the anti-SFxT in the graphics department. One has really ugly animations/faces/dull colors/etc, while the other is really gaudy in general with fucking ADD backgrounds. I think SFxT is way worse, but the two games are ugly in really different ways so I can easily see how one could think one game is uglier than the other.
SFxT is visually abrasive. Injustice just looks goofy as shit
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
SFxTK has way better animation (to me). It's the colors and stuff that is all ugly in that one and busy backgrounds.
not this shit again
Shouta
Member
Which is funny because Sega puts it into the game for free. Stinking Namco!
Master Milk
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I would believe that. It's the type of misguided thinking I'd expect from a video game designer.
"Instead of giving you something that would help you become better players, and despite you asking for it, it's more fun for you to fumble around in the dark for a few months wasting time figuring things out."
WW does not look like that in-game, she looks way worse. If that's how she actually looked in-game it would've been perfectly acceptable. And that pic of SFxT is ugly as hell too.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I love SF4's art style
but I fuckin' hate lookin' at SFxT
but I fuckin' hate lookin' at SFxT
RockTurtle
Member
Well i kinda understand the game designer.
some people want voice chat and the ability to summon friend in demon/dark souls. think about THAT!
i still don;t know what tekken character that is, but she looks lewd in all the shots i've seen!
Don't.give a.fuck about either game really and its true.
This is pretty much how I feel. Something about that game is just hideous to me
Passive Assassin
Member
it's not animaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Frame data for all Tekken games is recorded and posted on TZ so its not some big mystery or trade secret. Put me in the camp that wants frame data standard for moveslist in all fighting games.
That's Lili and she looks way better in Tekken.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
That's why I want Elena in SF4 AE 2014!! So I can see her not in a LSD fueled color puke visor telescope.
Seasoned Badger
Member
It's not completely true. Guides that come out in America most certainly doesn't contain frame data but ones that are released in the Asia region usually have frame data/hit boxes dating back to SF2.
The Alpha 3 guide with frame data/hit boxes had me foaming at the mouth before I found out it was only in available in Japan.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Was that info officially from capcom? Or did they do it themselves? Isn't the frame data wrong sometimes in these guides?
SousedLouse
Member
How does he stomach the texture? You can't just wash that pulpy mess away with milk.
I assume that they'll just use the same netcode, actually.
Comeon man sfxt looks like shit dude lol. That has nothing to do with my feelings about the actual game itself. It's abrasive to look at, flashing colors everywhere (though toned down in 2013.)
frame data being in games is fine in a post youtube/information available every where age. Discovery my ass. People figure out stuff way quicker these days because games are very similar to each other.
If it says powered by gamespy I will fucking lol.
If it says powered by gamespy I will fucking lol.