SniperHunter
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what do you guys think of the 2014 bit in the article? Spec upgrade?
Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games
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NullPointer
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I don't need an active internet connection to watch a movie on disk, delivered by Netflix.
Can't believe I had to write that sentence.
I still don't believe this, but then again the latest Gears took out Locust in team deathmatch, so maybe there is some extra dementia going around.
^^ That Walkman post is hilarious. The part about him feeling bad for people buying PS4 over Durango, just a masterpiece of comically retarded reasoning.
Always are on the internet. Someone to defend everything. It's a hard rule that never bends.
Always are on the internet. Someone to defend everything. It's a hard rule that never bends.
I'm very impressed by the MS disinformation strategy so far.
They are leaking so much terribly negative information that when they finally do reveal the NeXtbox with "problematic" features that are relatively benign, you will all dance with joy that it wasn't "as bad as it could've been."
Brilliantly played, Redmond. Brillianty played indeed.
They are leaking so much terribly negative information that when they finally do reveal the NeXtbox with "problematic" features that are relatively benign, you will all dance with joy that it wasn't "as bad as it could've been."
Brilliantly played, Redmond. Brillianty played indeed.
I know Live has been pretty stable for the most part, although that could change at any time, but remember that 2-3 week outage/connection issues a ton of people had during christmas break a few years back?
Now imagine something like that where the people affected not only can't play online or download anything...but can't play their xbox at all.
Voice of Reason
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Anecdotes are really the worst way to justify this. Every one's experience with their internet is vastly different.
This is the most worrying article yet because it's the first time we've got some proper developer sourcing for always online. It's finally time to start worrying. 2 developers at that, but it's still far too up in the air and mysterious considering some devs haven't been informed and others have, which is hard to rationalize. Not only that but them only being informed 2 weeks ago when this rumour has been buzzing forever is even more strange.
I don't know what to believe anymore.
I don't know what to believe anymore.
No they won't. They'll sell millions in their domestic market. Even though 22 million is over 1/3rd of the entire userbase, it's still a large number in absolute terms. Plus, UK much like NA loves Xbox so it'll do well over there as well.
If it's only about having it connected and nothing do with subscribing to XBL gold, then it shouldn't be a problem because then that 22million increases substantially.
Diablo Rosso
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Your username is ironic considering who made it.
He had a $10 bet with another gaffer and lost did not pay him and has not posted since.
kevcampbell
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If true the console could bomb nearly as bad as the Wii U
Baby Jimmy says "Awesome mom you got me an xbox 720 for christmas i am going to play it right now"
5 minutes later "mommy it says we need an internet connection or i can't play"
Mommy says "But jimmy we don't have one of those"
Alternative ending "Jimmy you know how terrible our internet connection is"
Baby Jimmy says "Awesome mom you got me an xbox 720 for christmas i am going to play it right now"
5 minutes later "mommy it says we need an internet connection or i can't play"
Mommy says "But jimmy we don't have one of those"
Alternative ending "Jimmy you know how terrible our internet connection is"
Windom Earle
Member
lol, no thanks MS. You need some REALLY REALLY REALLY good exclusives to win me over now.
Haunted
Member
called out!
Number of times my internet has been out this gen = once or twice
Number of times I have not been able to play a single player game because of "always online" connectivity = nonzero
Do you understand the real problem?
Sure, I agree. And it doesn't really make sense.
My internet connection itself is rarely ever down, but my XBox and PS3 seem to lose connectivity to various servers on a pretty routine basis. I've never figured out why game consoles have such sporadic network connections whereas my PC "just works" and plays games/video effortlessly while transferring what I'm assuming are similar amounts of data across the network.
It seems like this is just another small obstacle for pirates to get past while the honest customers have to put up with another annoyance every time they use the product.
It seems like this is just another small obstacle for pirates to get past while the honest customers have to put up with another annoyance every time they use the product.
They're probably betting big on the Halo and Gears fanbases to flock to their console despite their anti-consumer approaches. And also projecting that the American market will flock to it for its "set-top-box" features.
Doubt even pirates will want to waste money on the machine at that point.
Doubt even pirates will want to waste money on the machine at that point.
The Omega Man
Member
is this a meltdown?
Captain Tuttle
Member
I kind of agree with this, my internet is VERY stable, we have an outage or dropped session maybe once a year or so. I'm concerned about MS's end though, it has to be iron-clad.
Voice of Reason
Banned
Oh man, he can't even hold up to a measly $10.
-Pyromaniac-
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amen. There's ALWAYS problems. I learned from Diablo 3 the hard way.
GoofsterStud
Member
Somehow he wasn't down during Live down time, like during the holidays either!
>.> I want what he's having!
Schnozberry
Member
If this is true, Sony seems to be making the least unforced errors out of anyone thus far. I can't believe Microsoft would shut themselves off to just about everyone in rural America that has spotty internet connections, though. I'm hoping this is just people operating off of old or bad information.
Who says this is sensationalist bullshit? Not the first time we've heard this rumor.
Will be interesting to see if his tune changes if it turns out the always online stuff is real.
Like I said earlier, they need the support from the publishers to pull this off. It's rather they have everyone on board with lots of support or the rumour is false.
Dreams-Visions
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Not really even sure what point you're trying to make. Not clear if you're co-signing my comment or...yea, just not clear.
To make me go over this bullshit they'd need some HUGE exclusive i'm interested in, and nothing on the 360 came close to that (a probably not even on ps3).
3rd party exclusives are done and their first party library is pretty weak at the moment, so personally i don't feel that tempted.
No, the real scenario will be countless soccer moms buying it for Christmas and finding out the system is literally worthless because they don't have Internet or a good connection.
I almost want it to happen for the meltdowns.
It will not be if MS actually announces a gaming dictatorship for xbox
If that is true, xbox 720 could be the first cosnole i will never buy
They will do it, and people will still buy it, like all the other people that have thrown money at Microsoft for stupid products and services ($100 wifi adapter, expensive xbox hard drives, XBL, etc.)
I suspect that they have the balls to announce this and I think people will still buy Durango even with this feature lol. Just like the people that bought Sim City.
Because unlike SimCity, Microsoft has to sell at minimum 10-20 million of these things for the platform to be viable in the long term. The first 3-4 million is basically guaranteed. Past that?
Wuthering_Heights
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So.. Halo, Gears, Forza?
Been wondering about this possibly being a marketing strategy as well but I think the line is blurred. I think part of these rumors are true possibly this one as well.
Ace Harding
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I wonder if Microsoft has been delaying announcements after seeing what Sony had and the reaction to SimCity and the always online Durango rumors, so that they could make some last minute changes.
Sidewinder
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Day 365 or later for me if true, but I will wait for the official announcement, can't believe they could be that stupid.
MS makes more money by taking that existing non-Internet 50% and dividing them up into those who will connect to play and those who will not (or cannot).
Connected people buy digital goods and services. They buy more content. Most importantly, everyone needs to pay given the always-on security. And that removes the temptation a lot of gamers have to pirate, which is an increasing concern as a generation is brought-up looking for loopholes to avoid paying for digital content. My wife and I make over $250K a year, and even I am tempted if the loophole is wide enough (such as R1 carts for NDS).
Cannot connect? At least the PS4 and PC are there.
I think piracy is too easy to justify these days. "Everyone else is doing it, so I'm not a bad person if I do too." Kudos to MS for putting their foot down, with a solution that will not impact me at all. My internet has gone down for 3+ minutes a handful of times in the past few years. I just don't care.
What was the bet over?
Voice of Reason
Banned
I was trying to counter Lundz' point, and somehow quoted you. My bad.
Dance Inferno
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I really want this to be true, mainly because I want to see how people would react to it. I get the feeling that while the majority of GAF would be up in arms about it, most mainstream consumers wouldn't give two shits and would still buy "the new Xbox."
I'm glad that we're not all overreacting as usual here... Because that would embarrassing
At this point however, this doesn't change anything for me. Putting aside the fact that the damn thing hasn't even been announced yet and these are all baseless rumours from super secret sources that apparently know everything about the console and MS's plan for next gen, even if this were true it wouldn't effect me at all. I haven't played my Xbox offline in probably 3 years.
At this point however, this doesn't change anything for me. Putting aside the fact that the damn thing hasn't even been announced yet and these are all baseless rumours from super secret sources that apparently know everything about the console and MS's plan for next gen, even if this were true it wouldn't effect me at all. I haven't played my Xbox offline in probably 3 years.