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[Spider from Mars]

And miss out on the biggest #heel turn since Hogan?

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[polyh3dron]

Wrasslegaf IRC for this show:

IRC.Rizon.net
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[Officerrob]

So is UFC/MMA more popular than WWE/Professional Wrestling in America these days?
I know they are completely different, but which one would you rank higher in popularity after NBA, NFL and MLB?

The Diaz/St-Pierre card did 900k domestic buys in America last month, Wrestlemania won't touch that. As a weekly T.V. show, WWE is more popular. As a big event fight/event PPV, UFC is bigger

 

[Razorskin]

The Diaz/St. Pierre card did 900k domestic buys in America last month, Wrestlemania won't touch that. As a weekly T.V. show, WWE is more popular. As a big event fight/event PPV, UFC is bigger

Spot on.

 

[Aiii]

The Diaz/St. Pierre card did 900k domestic buys in America last month, Wrestlemania won't touch that. As a weekly T.V. show, WWE is much more popular. As a big event fight/event PPV, UFC is bigger

Uhm...

WrestleMania X-Seven - 1,040,000
WrestleMania X8 - 880,000
WrestleMania XIX - 560,000
WrestleMania XX - 1,007,000
WrestleMania 21 - 1,085,000
WrestleMania 22 - 975,000
WrestleMania 23 - 1,250,000 (Former Highest Buyrate Record)
WrestleMania XXIV - 1,041,000
WrestleMania XXV - 960,000
WrestleMania XXVI - 885,000
WrestleMania XXVII - 1,042,000
WrestleMania XXVIII - 1,217,000

That should be over 900k domestic for sure for a few of those.

 

[Razorskin]

Uhm...

WrestleMania X-Seven - 1,040,000
WrestleMania X8 - 880,000
WrestleMania XIX - 560,000
WrestleMania XX - 1,007,000
WrestleMania 21 - 1,085,000
WrestleMania 22 - 975,000
WrestleMania 23 - 1,250,000 (Former Highest Buyrate Record)
WrestleMania XXIV - 1,041,000
WrestleMania XXV - 960,000
WrestleMania XXVI - 885,000
WrestleMania XXVII - 1,042,000
WrestleMania XXVIII - 1,217,000

Domestic

 

[slit]

Uhm...

WrestleMania X-Seven - 1,040,000
WrestleMania X8 - 880,000
WrestleMania XIX - 560,000
WrestleMania XX - 1,007,000
WrestleMania 21 - 1,085,000
WrestleMania 22 - 975,000
WrestleMania 23 - 1,250,000 (Former Highest Buyrate Record)
WrestleMania XXIV - 1,041,000
WrestleMania XXV - 960,000
WrestleMania XXVI - 885,000
WrestleMania XXVII - 1,042,000
WrestleMania XXVIII - 1,217,000

Yeah but he's talking North America only.

 

[Aiii]

You guys think there's over 300k non-domestic ppv sales? Really?

 

[polyh3dron]

North America, yo.

All I'd say is, since we're operating on Meltzer numbers for UFC domestic buy rates, we should probably operate off the numbers from the same source for WWE.

 

[bangai-o]

ill be at work tonight. so ill only be reading the comments here when i get done.

 

[Aiii]

There's no way they're doing 25% of their PPV business outside of NA.

 

[slit]

You guys think there's over 300k non-domestic ppv sales? Really?

Well last years WM did about 750,000 buys in NA, so they got at least 500,000 overseas.

 

[Officerrob]

Uhm...

WrestleMania X-Seven - 1,040,000
WrestleMania X8 - 880,000
WrestleMania XIX - 560,000
WrestleMania XX - 1,007,000
WrestleMania 21 - 1,085,000
WrestleMania 22 - 975,000
WrestleMania 23 - 1,250,000 (Former Highest Buyrate Record)
WrestleMania XXIV - 1,041,000
WrestleMania XXV - 960,000
WrestleMania XXVI - 885,000
WrestleMania XXVII - 1,042,000
WrestleMania XXVIII - 1,217,000

That should be over 900k domestic for sure for a few of those.

Nope

We reported earlier last week that WrestleMania 28 finished with 1,217,000 buys, and according to The Wrestling Observer, here is how the show breaks down:

The PPV drew 713,000 domestic buys and 503,000 international buys. This makes WM28 the second highest drawing PPV WWE history in terms of domestic buys, with WrestleMania 23 still holding the number one spot with 825,000 buys.

 

[Aiii]

Well last years WM did about 750,000 buys in NA, so they got at least 500,000 overseas.

Seriously? Well color me suprised. Where are all these people?

I am legit shook.

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

I would like the Rock as champion more if he was still in his "People's Champion" persona. Expensive clothes, raising the eyebrow, calling people jabronis, asking Jillian Garcia if she wanted the People's strudel, etc.

 

[Aiii]

I would like the Rock as champion more if he was still in his "People's Champion" persona. Expensive clothes, raising the eyebrow, calling people jabronis, asking Jillian Garcia if she wanted the People's strudel, etc.

Are you not enjoying Story Time with Dwayne Johnson?

 

[polyh3dron]

I would like the Rock as champion more if he was still in his "People's Champion" persona. Expensive clothes, raising the eyebrow, calling people jabronis, asking Jillian Garcia if she wanted the People's strudel, etc.

Haven't been following much since last Mania, so what has the Rock's persona been like as champion? Has he gone baby face or something?

 

[bangai-o]

I would like the Rock as champion more if he was still in his "People's Champion" persona. Expensive clothes, raising the eyebrow, calling people jabronis, asking Jillian Garcia if she wanted the People's strudel, etc.

Rock doesnt know how to be a face. Last year he had to write on his arm to remember what to say.

 

[krae_man]

Seriously? Well color me suprised. Where are all these people?

I am legit shook.

In some of those countries it doesn't cost $60.

 

[Aiii]

In some of those countries it doesn't cost $60.

I paid 15 euro's my friend

 

[Spider from Mars]

In some of those countries it doesn't cost $60.

$70 for the HD version.

 

[krae_man]

I paid 15 euro's my friend

Exactly why the International Buys are significant.

$70 for the HD version.

Up to $2000 in person.

 

[Officerrob]

I paid 15 euro's my friend

Fuck, that's not even $20

 

[Aiii]

Exactly why the International Buys are significant.

To be fair, in a country where wrestling is non-existent, I think they're pretty happy they're making some money here at least.

 

[Pavaloo]

Cena wont go heel, because of the reasons I said but everyone ignoring the main reason, he doesn't have it in him. He's so much of a good guy that its ruined him. Remember when he tried to get "real" on a promo and all it was was him saying del rio rents cars as he's not actually rich.

Bret Hart was right, cena is the ultimate good guy and to be a bad guy it would come off as goofy. It would also break his never give up attitude. He wants to win everyone over as a face. Him going heel might happen one day, but I personally don't ever see it happening.

unless he magically comes out as the shields ring leader, but that moment passed once they showed the hidden camera footage from maddox. Shield could have been so great. Ball dropped wwe.

This is why he needs to amp up the super cena to sarcastic levels. It's PERFECT

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Are you not enjoying Story Time with Dwayne Johnson?

Haven't been following much since last Mania, so what has the Rock's persona been like as champion? Has he gone baby face or something?

Pretty much. "I am the champion, this is the people's era! John Cena and Fruity Pebbles". They should of brought back a few Attitude Era writers for him.

Rock doesnt know how to be a face. Last year he had to write on his arm to remember what to say.

Got a video?

 

[Spider from Mars]

Got a video?

Could have been a work (so I don't look like a mark)

 

[amodelmerol]

In Latin America, UFC PPVs are broadcasted on cable tv, whereas WWE PPVs are still PPV

And WWE PPV buyrates are going down thanks to next day DVD piracy and improving internet conditions for watching illegal streams

 

[Pavaloo]

CM Punk reads cue cards.

 

[bangai-o]

Got a video?

hmm. it was on a Raw. ill see what i can find. but John Cena called him out on it and wresslgeaf was quite shaken. basically after the fruity pebbles segment, Cena brought the ether.

edit

beat

 

[krae_man]

CM Punk reads cue cards.

And he uses a harness with two people spotting him while standing on the Titantron. What a phoney.

 

[Officerrob]

Punk's new shirt is fantastic

 

[MooseKing]

The Diaz/St-Pierre card did 900k domestic buys in America last month, Wrestlemania won't touch that. As a weekly T.V. show, WWE is more popular. As a big event fight/event PPV, UFC is bigger

Not to mention in most countries the PPV's in North America are completely free.

Either way, I don't see why people are comparing the two. One is a sport, the other is entertainment. It's dumb to compare them.

You also can't just go by PPV numbers. Some boxing matches will get way higher PPV numbers than UFC events. However as a whole MMA is arguably more popular at this point. Boxing gyms around the world are closing, while MMA and Martial Arts gyms are opening at a rate never seen before. At this point, of all the major boxing countries in the world, the only place not producing more top MMA fighters than Boxers is Mexico.

 

[bangai-o]

Punk's new shirt is fantastic

why cant the same person design Dolph Ziggler's shirts.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Seriously? Well color me suprised. Where are all these people?

I am legit shook.

Vince has been pushing more and more countries to PPV to make up for declining domestic buys. Kind of shady but the shareholders eat it up.

 

[GRW810]

Uhm...

WrestleMania X-Seven - 1,040,000
WrestleMania X8 - 880,000
WrestleMania XIX - 560,000
WrestleMania XX - 1,007,000
WrestleMania 21 - 1,085,000
WrestleMania 22 - 975,000
WrestleMania 23 - 1,250,000 (Former Highest Buyrate Record)
WrestleMania XXIV - 1,041,000
WrestleMania XXV - 960,000
WrestleMania XXVI - 885,000
WrestleMania XXVII - 1,042,000
WrestleMania XXVIII - 1,217,000

That should be over 900k domestic for sure for a few of those.

Whoa, what went wrong with WM19?

 

[Evening Musuko]

So my predictions: Winners in bold.

Miz vs. Barrett
(Will only take 3 minutes followed by 57 minutes of commercials)

Tons of Funkadactyls vs. Team Bella Rhodes Scholars
(Dancing afterwards)

Chris Jericho vs. Fandingo
(Dancing afterwards)

Team Hell No vs. Zig-E
(Ziggler selling to be the real winner here.)

Ryberg vs. Mizark
(Ryback will SHOCK the world and Mark Henry)

Team Hoss vs. The Shield
(No #HEEL turns here.)

Del Rio vs. Swagger
(No Cash in)

HHH vs. Bork Laser
(Paul E to be superkicked by HBK)

Taker vs. Punk vs. Living Colour
(With 3 Tombstones. Punk will attempt one but Taker will counter with one of his own and end it. 21-0.)

The Rock vs. John Cena
(No #HEEL turn. Massive Boos that will be edited out the next night on Raw.)

Gonna be watching this at Buffalo Wild Wings with my friend in a few hours. First WM I won't be following on WrassleGAF in about 4 years. Have fun everyone.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

In Latin America, UFC PPVs are broadcasted on cable tv, whereas WWE PPVs are still PPV

And WWE PPV buyrates are going down thanks to next day DVD piracy and improving internet conditions for watching illegal streams

Yup what WWE should be doing is making it super easy to buy the PPV stream worldwide. They should be going balls-deep in legal streaming and charging $10 or something to lure away pirate streamers.

Charging $60 and not having legal streams in a lot of countries is a recipe for piracy, unfortunately. Baffles me how WWE don't get this.

 

[Spider from Mars]

Whoa, what went wrong with WM19?

Hogan-McMahon.

 

[Ondore]

Whoa, what went wrong with WM19?

Top four matches were Hogan/McMahon, HHH/Booker T, Austin/Rock III and Bork/Angle. In that order. All with outcomes ranging from obvious to metaphysical certainty.

 

[ChosenPredator]

So Cena goes ballistic and breaks the rocks leg and then beats him like mad with a chair ...and chokes him out with the steps and turns heel tonight right?

 

[MetatronM]

Well, in a cab on my way to Penn Station, en route to Wrestlemania.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Yup what WWE should be doing is making it super easy to buy the PPV stream worldwide. They should be going balls-deep in legal streaming and charging $10 or something to lure away pirate streamers.

Charging $60 and not having legal streams in a lot of countries is a recipe for piracy, unfortunately. Baffles me how WWE don't get this.

Apart from the fact that their online streams suck

 

[El-Suave]

I paid 15 euro's my friend

In Germany it was €20 (early bird offer) but if you order Extreme Rules next month you get both for €30.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Apart from the fact that their online streams suck

Of course it is going to require further investment first.

 

[Razorskin]

So Cena goes ballistic and breaks the rocks leg and then beats him like mad with a chair ...and chokes him out with the steps and turns heel tonight right?

Very close, except Cena will be holding the Rock down as Laurinitis takes the chair shots.

Well, in a cab on my way to Penn Station, en route to Wrestlemania.

Have fun! Take plenty of pics and share a couple!

 

[newdayrocks]

Wait Mainia is now 60 bucks to order PPV? It use to be 40 a few years ago....wow shit is a scam lol

Just paid $70 for the HD feed on DirecTV.

 

[Ilive1up]

eh, i'll just be using a stream.

 

[bangai-o]

is anybody going to be drinking alcoholic beverage tonight? you shouldnt.

 

[krae_man]

eh, i'll just be using a stream.

Hopefully a legal one through the WWE App.