Margaret Thatcher has died

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i was born/raised in england until i moved to australia when i was 8. one thing i've never understood (and wiki didn't properly explain) - why do northerners seem to despise her, whilst southerners look up to her?

Because the South tends to be more affluent than the North, and a lot of Thatcher's policies has a disproportional affect on those with lower income.
 
Damm a few people will be having drinks in celebration of this news.

It's pretty dark stuff. But the strength of feeling she had on this country will bubble to the surface.

I'm not sure wether this is a good or bad thing for the tories at this point.

Probably a bad thing. It's going to make things even more divisive.
 
She was definitely something else, RIP

Can't say I'm really that unhappy.

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i was born/raised in england until i moved to australia when i was 8. one thing i've never understood (and wiki didn't properly explain) - why do northerners seem to despise her, whilst southerners look up to her?

A lot of the policies she enacted negatively affected the North much more greatly than they did the South.
 
Rest In Peace Maggie. Despite the clear diverse opinion of her and her political views there's no denying she was a force of nature.
 
I can't say i'll miss her, but RIP nonetheless. She at least had a bit of backbone and that's more than can be said for the likes of Cameron, Clegg or Milliband.
 
Just read about this and what happens? I get a text from a 'friend' regarding this stating 'Ding dong the witch is dead'. Fair enough not liking her or what she did but what about showing some respect or decency?

Quite clearly you have no idea of the implications of her years in power.

How old are you, out of curiosity?
 
So someone explain the whole state funeral thing to me? I have a basic idea, but there may be something pretty different for the UK than what I'm imagining for a US politician.
 
It's unlikely the beeb are going go daggers at her the day she has died.

Some form of balance would be nice though. Missed the first 5 mins or so of 1:00 news, but so far they've only talked about positive things... Negatives have barely been mentioned. But there you go :p
 
I don't really feel a lot of sadness at the passing of someone whom I never met, but I guess as a middle-class southerner I look upon Thatcher in a far better light than many of the others in this thread. rip
 
RIP.

I understand not liking her politics/policies...I would understand if she'd just lost an election and you were happy about that. But it's not like she had any power in the last 20 years. Why celebrate her death ?
 
I suppose if people want to know why she was hated some of her more erm noteworthy actions are in the documentary The Shock Doctrine, it doesn't focus on her however.
 
So someone explain the whole state funeral thing to me? I have a basic idea, but there may be something pretty different for the UK than what I'm imagining for a US politician.

Taxpayers foot the pill and pretend we care.


...I think that's the basic idea.
 
Unlikely. She was way too decisive, not like Churchill who was universally loved.

They'll true and make one for political reasons though. Cameron would a) love a Tory state funeral and b) Headlines of stupid ex-Union members and Labour politicians saying stupid things about her.

It'd be a disaster but not necessarily a political one. We'll see what her family want I suppose, they might be more savvy than that.

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Thatcher herself did a lot right but she was too stubborn to see where policies had really negative effects and to mitigate those. In the end though every PM since her has failed to identify areas of the UK that have seen negative or stagnant growth since her time in power.

Its very simple really - Labour created Social Housing around state industry; when that was removed, the Social Housing should have been drastically reformed.

I won't blame her as its not like anyone 'fixed' the underlying problem of the most unemployed people getting housing in the areas of lowest employment, but she did ignore the people really hurting, taking the Tory view to desensitize themselves to any plight they suffer.

I do commend her for having a belief and seeing it through. These days Tories just parrot old ideas without believing/understanding them. And I can tell you - that brings a lot more negatives that anything she reformed.

It really is having their cake and eating it that Thatcher is not a celebration of British Feminism though.
 
BBC singing her praises...Aren't they supposed to be balanced? Lol.

I'm expecting they'll do some vox pop segment down the pub at some point, where the following opinions are expressed by various members of the public:

"Rest in peace. A strong leader who made unpopular decisions that needed to be made at the time"

"I don't agree with what she did, but she certainly left her mark on history"

"I'm having a drink in celebration, wahey!"
 
RIP.

I understand not liking her politics/policies...I would understand if she'd just lost an election and you were happy about that. But it's not like she had any power in the last 20 years. Why celebrate her death ?

Because the reasons for people not liking her far outreach her terms in office?

Do we absolve all sins if they stay out of power long enough?
 
She... stole milk?

Am I missing something?

This:

Throughout her political career
she was always dogged by the epithet “Margaret Thatcher – Milk Snatcher”.

This was as a result of her decision – whilst Education Secretary in the Heath government of 1970 to 194 – to axe free school milk for seven to 11-year-olds.
 
i was born/raised in england until i moved to australia when i was 8. one thing i've never understood (and wiki didn't properly explain) - why do northerners seem to despise her, whilst southerners look up to her?


She unleashed on us the second harrying of the north.
 
Taxpayers foot the pill and pretend we care.


...I think that's the basic idea.

thats what I thought. I think any president that dies is a state funeral IIRC. Ford was the last to pass and I'm pretty sure it was a state funeral
 
Yup. Fucked up the Scottish conservative party so badly that, the last I heard, they were considering changing their name.

I believe they were considering changing the party name to Evil Cunts as somewhat more family friendly than Conservatives.
 
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