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Skullgirls DLC Character vote | The Campaign united us, The Voting will destroy us

I'm feeling pretty good about myself right now - at least one of my votes made it through each round, and Eliza ended up winning the vote. I didn't even like Eliza all that much in the beginning, but the posts that her supporters made in this thread were very, very convincing :p

It's a real slog going through all the upset posts on other sites, though. It's like walking through Salar de Uyuni -
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- salt as far as the eye can see, and anger that burns hotter than the sun.

Everything seems to indicate him being a grappler, so copies of characters seems boring. At least, if we're going to make sense of him being a wrestler.

Unless he's this kind of wrestler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEveyeXRaU

That would be an excellent technique for any combatant to use :D

I believe that Lab Zero has a lot of leeway with Beowulf's design, actually. Think of it this way; if Cerebella is a traditional grappler, then Beowulf can act as the embodiment of the more eclectic throw mechanics that have appeared in other fighting games. When I think of the moves that could be given to Beowulf, I envision that he would have a style that's similar to characters like Blue Mary (specifically, from Real Bout 2), Orochi Yashiro, or Rainbow Mika (the latter half of this video is just V-ism shenannigans, so feel free to ignore that); hit throws, catch throws, counters and other special moves that have less emphasis on dealing out big damage, and more emphasis on placing the opponent at certain parts of the screen in a disadvantageous state. Heck, R. Mika's even in his list of character inspirations, so I feel like they're on the same wavelength that I am.

He wouldn't need to have command throws, either. His moves could place the opponent in different hit states, pick them up from the ground, etc., and their stats and effects could change based on whether he has The Hurting in hand, set up on the screen or laying flat on the ground, and whether or not he's throwing them into The Hurting himself.

And even if the dev team used other ideas or decided to downplay his wrassin' side, there's still other styles that they could use for him. After all, he's an older gentleman, and his body's got to be worn after a long career in the ring. He could be the type of character that fights with their head first and their muscles second - one that's based on making good reads against your opponent and capitalizing on it. Granted, that sort of style could be given to other characters that didn't make the cut in the first vote, but I think that there's only a few other characters that could gel with said style.

I know that this post is a bit on the long side, but Lab Zero won a lot of faith from me after they made Cerebella, and I feel like they could do wonders with Beowulf as well. I mean, look at what they did with Cerebella - instead of just giving her two good command grabs and a bunch of terrible normal moves to balance it out, they gave her a solid, unique moveset that actually takes advantage of the game's fundamental mechanics, one which makes her just as viable as the other characters on the roster. She's actually fun to play with, and every match feels like it starts on even footing instead of an uphill climb. Lab Zero understands grapplers, and I would absolutely love to see them try to make an unorthodox grappler as well.

Them listing 'not Kanji' as one of the inspirations for his gameplay gives me pause, because I thought he was terrible - but they could ignore that! (please ignore that)
 
Woke up to see Eliza won...good. She was easily the best choice out of the 4 remaining characters. She will be a great addition to the cast.

Now on to vote two in which Stanley will actually prevail this time.
 
Woke up to see Eliza won...good. She was easily the best choice out of the 4 remaining characters. She will be a great addition to the cast.

Now on to vote two in which Black Dahlia will actually prevail this time.
Fix'd that for ya. ;/
 
Eliza won? Awesome! Glad she managed to make it, and can't wait to see how she'll end up turning out in the game.

Now, round two time. Let's go Beowulf!

#TeamBeowulf
 
Oh my god. A character I wanted actually got in? Amazing. Mmmm, I am going to be floating in a sea of salt I tell you. FLOATING!
 
Team Dick is already getting screwed by inside fighting, I see. Annie has this in the bag.

Personally I'll exhaust every #Team Dick member before voting for a girl, and I expect a lot of people to do something similar. Except voting for Stanley. Man I hate that thing.
 
I'm happy for Eliza winning, since I've always loved Egyptian/Arabic-themed character design.

I'll still be pushing for Minette in the next poll. Don't give up hope yet, guys!
 
Team Dick is already getting screwed by inside fighting, I see. Annie has this in the bag.

I really think Annie's character design is awful. I was very happy she didn't win for that reason. I hope she doesn't win now. Of the final four Eliza was my top choice, with Minette as tolerable for second. We really do need a second guy character to result from this upcoming vote though.

Stanley is obviously my top choice but I am alright with any of the other guys too (Panzerfaust is my second choice).

The new voting system is going to change things up considerably so I don't expect the poll to play out the same way the first one did.
 
Personally I'll exhaust every #Team Dick member before voting for a girl, and I expect a lot of people to do something similar. Except voting for Stanley. Man I hate that thing.

It really doesn't matter when we are getting a final round with TEN characters.
 
An entire game is now vastly inferior to what it could have been for the poor judgement of people.

I officially loathe at least 26% of the Skullgirls community, and will never make the mistake of funding anything involving a poll again. Guess what? If you have a problem with that, I don’t care. You can take your fake moral superiority and shove it.

There’s no point in elaborating on how this is horrible. Everyone with the capacity to understand wouldn’t have voted for her.

Eliza’s okay, but her design is pretty meh. That said, a lot of the characters already in the game overall have kinda “meh” designs so you know, at least she fits

This whole poll this was a pretty lameass idea from the start; IMO the staff should have just decided on who they wanted to put in. When a poll like this kind of boils down to a simple popularity contest, it’s almost guaranteed to piss somebody off.

oh my
 
The new voting system is going to change things up considerably so I don't expect the poll to play out the same way the first one did.

Read the discussion; the new voting system will actually keep the status quo. The fact that you only get ONE vote ensures that the characters with dedicated fanbases (Annie, Minette, Beowulf and the usual suspects) will be the ones getting to the final round.
 
Still pumped.

One of my top 4 made it in! 3 of which were top 8.

Let's do it guys.

#allguystop4!

vote #PanzerfaustIsaacStanleyBeowulf

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If I had any talent (or photoshop) I would shop Stanley and Annie into this gif.
 
Read the discussion; the new voting system will actually keep the status quo. The fact that you only get ONE vote ensures that the characters with dedicated fanbases (Annie, Minette, Beowulf and the usual suspects) will be the ones getting to the final round.

This topic moves so fast that I am not even entirely sure what the new voting system is. From what I gather it's the Academy Awards-style voting system where we rank our most liked to least liked, with the higher on the list getting more "points"/votes. Is that right or wrong?

If it is right then I can easily see the status quo changing. If first choices are splintered enough second choices that are more similar could easily overtake. Even if it doesn't change that much, with 10 (I believe?) in the final round instead of 4 it will change who is voted on considerably. (Plus considering Stanley and Panzerfaust were both in the last top 8 I would be ok with that too)

Also, all of those characters that got to top 8 obviously had "dedicated fanbases". Just because you don't see the Stanley fans posting millions of pieces of fanart here on GAF doesn't mean he has no fans. Getting to the top 8 at all means each of those had a lot of people behind them, not just the most vocal choices.
 
This topic moves so fast that I am not even entirely sure what the new voting system is. From what I gather it's the Academy Awards-style voting system where we rank our most liked to least liked, with the higher on the list getting more "points"/votes. Is that right or wrong?

There are no "points". Only your first choice counts:

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If your first choice gets eliminated, your single vote goes to your second choice; that's the reason for the ranking.
 
There are no "points". Only your first choice counts:

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If your first choice gets eliminated, your single vote goes to your second choice; that's the reason for the ranking.

Ok, I really don't see how the results of the last poll will be maintained then. Last time each vote you made (until the final round you had more than one choice) had equal weighting. I am sure some of the people in top 8 or even top 4 were initially someone's 3rd or 4th vote and it is just that enough people put them down on their list that they managed to move on to the next round. We also no longer have Eliza (which obviously was highly voted for) and now Juju is being added in to the vote. I don't expect the results to stay the same.
 
Ok, I really don't see how the results of the last poll will be maintained then. Last time each vote you made (until the final round you had more than one choice) had equal weighting. I am sure some of the people in top 8 or even top 4 were initially someone's 3rd or 4th vote and it is just that enough people put them down on their list that they managed to move on to the next round. We also no longer have Eliza (which obviously was highly voted for) and now Juju is being added in to the vote. I don't expect the results to stay the same.

Nope.
 

She isn't? I thought she was going to be in the second vote? Not that I really care, she was another one I thought had a dumb design and would likely be near the bottom of my list anyways.

My point still stands, this system plus the change in candidates (no Eliza) will change the results.
 
She isn't? I thought she was going to be in the second vote? Not that I really care, she was another one I thought had a dumb design and would likely be near the bottom of my list anyways.

My point still stands, this system plus the change in candidates (no Eliza) will change the results.

It won't even put a dent in characters with strong dedicated fanbases like Annie or Minette; right now that's what matters the most: to have a strong fanbase.
 
She isn't? I thought she was going to be in the second vote? Not that I really care, she was another one I thought had a dumb design and would likely be near the bottom of my list anyways.

My point still stands, this system plus the change in candidates (no Eliza) will change the results.

No, they still haven't finished the legal wrangling.

Ultimately, I suspect that the other three finalists will be present in the final ten, but it'll boil down on who gets the most #1 votes and who is the most popular backup votes for the least popular characters.
 
It won't even put a dent in characters with strong dedicated fanbases like Annie or Minette; right now that's what matters the most: to have a strong fanbase.

NeoGAF is an echo chamber. Just because other characters don't have a deluge of fan art doesn't mean there is not a strong presence behind them. Honestly while Minette always had the art, I don't even recall very much Annie art at all until after she got into the top 8. People only turned to her after other characters (which people were more vocally behind) were eliminated.

So again, I really don't put that much stock into what "appears" to be the most popular/"dedicated".
 
The salt is going to form a salt dome. I love this and I do not even play sg. I can only hope round two will be just as salty.
 
NeoGAF is an echo chamber. Just because other characters don't have a deluge of fan art doesn't mean there is not a strong presence behind them. Honestly while Minette always had the art, I don't even recall very much Annie art at all until after she got into the top 8. People only turned to her after other characters (which people were more vocally behind) were eliminated.

So again, I really don't put that much stock into what "appears" to be the most popular/"dedicated".

New voting method has the chance to disprove a lot of the assumptions about how people vote. Will be interesting.
 
Sorry if I offended anyone with my last post, It wasn't my intention.


when is vote 2 starting? tomorrow? I can't wait for Peter to freaking tell us how the voting will work
 
Kind of annoyed that arguments for why Eliza won come down to "people voted for tits". Of all the known characters, she probably had the most detailed information about her gameplay (she had a MikeZ Demo and pretty specific background listed in the DLC info). The gameplay we all knew about was extremely interesting and varied. Her character design was pretty much praised across the entire community for being both unique and fitting of the SG-horror-themed universe. She actually looked like the most intimidating female you could vote for just based on her standing pose. Voting for Eliza wasn't as ambigious as other characters. It was reasonable to vote for Eliza.
 
If the voting method was the same as before, I agree, not much would've changed. But if we really do a runoff vote I expect a few upsets and changes.
 
NeoGAF is an echo chamber. Just because other characters don't have a deluge of fan art doesn't mean there is not a strong presence behind them. Honestly while Minette always had the art, I don't even recall very much Annie art at all until after she got into the top 8. People only turned to her after other characters (which people were more vocally behind) were eliminated.

So again, I really don't put that much stock into what "appears" to be the most popular/"dedicated".

The exposure of getting to the top 4 will help her a lot; that's the reason the next vote will be mostly the exact same: mindshare.
 
If the voting method was the same as before, I agree, not much would've changed. But if we really do a runoff vote I expect a few upsets and changes.

Yep. People will either A)Stick to their Annie and Minette guns or B) Vote for the character they wanted in initially. There are plenty of interesting ones there.

As you can tell by my avatar Hubrecht was in my top 4 but he never made it past round 1.
 
Sorry if I offended anyone with my last post, It wasn't my intention.
Yeah, the use of the word "fag" as a suffix is (generally speaking) bannable here. This isn't 4chan, we have more rules. Indeed, pretty much the only use of the word "fag" that won't carry a risk of a ban is if you're referring to a cigarette in BritGAF (and Evilore isn't in a bad mood).
 
Yeah, the use of the word "fag" as a suffix is generally speaking bannable here. This isn't 4chan, we have more rules. Indeed, pretty much the only use of the word "fag" that won't carry a risk of a ban is if you're referring to a cigarette in BritGAF (and Evilore isn't in a bad mood).

I had no idea. I was just used to it as using it instead of "fan", I edited my post already and it won't happen again :/

I did not know it was used as a way to refer to a cigarette btw :0

#TeamAnnie
 
I had no idea. I was just used to it as using it instead of "fan", I edited my post already and it won't happen again :/

I did not know it was used as a way to refer to a cigarette btw :0

#TeamAnnie

Yeah, "fag" is considered a slur against homosexual people (presumably why it's so popular in 4chan). Admittedly, the cigarette meaning is probably more popular in the UK, but still.
 
I don't really understand the visual appeal of Eliza but just judging by the votes here I think she's a lock for the winner. She's on so many lists as an alternate that I think people are just going to jump ship to her by default when their characters go down.

4/8

Eliza and Beowulf is actually the safest bet one can make for reaching the top 3 spots.

4/9. Oops on Beowulf. Guess I can't be psychic all the time.

Personally (and you can quote me on this after it's all over :P) I think that Eliza is the #1 character at the moment.

Now as people lose their favorites and shift their votes around, I wonder how it will all pan out.

Piece of cake.
 
Yeah, "fag" is considered a slur against homosexual people (presumably why it's so popular in 4chan). Admittedly, the cigarette meaning is probably more popular in the UK, but still.

I know this is no excuse for it, but I'm in a homosexual relationship and I use it all the time haha. I'll just be careful and not use it here.



I NEED ANNIE IN THE GAME, all the stress of #TeamPenis is going to give me anxiety attacks all over again
 
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