xclaw
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Ugh, I'm never buying games again. Just picked up BB the other week.
*Edit Top of Thread! Buy Out of Mind cause I like what tacsgames is doing on the PSM front and it's less thatn 2$ and fun!
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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | May 2013 | Lovecraftian Wasteland
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Ugh, I'm never buying games again. Just picked up BB the other week.
*Edit Top of Thread! Buy Out of Mind cause I like what tacsgames is doing on the PSM front and it's less thatn 2$ and fun!
may 1st: Hitman Absolution
may 1st: Catherine
may 1st: Malicious
may 8th: Sine Mora
may 15th: Velocity Ultra HD
CaptainTiptop
Member
Hoping Blazblue comes to EU PS+ eventually too. I want to play it but I'm not sure if I'd like it or not.
Sine Mora and Velocity Ultra are pretty dope, though.
Sine Mora and Velocity Ultra are pretty dope, though.
For the levels where you have to tilt your Vita, remember that you must hold the Vita parallel to the ground and then balance it like a tilt board.
If you have Plus and still buy full retail games on the Store, prepare to be pissed off like that. I buy full games on cart so I can trade them in when they inevitably go on Plus. My line for a good price in a sale is 'if it went on Plus tomorrow, I would still be fine with the price I paid'.
I know about them, that's why I said I'm waiting for them.
Already have Sine Mora on Steam but will check the Vita version.
Yep that's what I'm doing fellow GAFfer, I just need to be more "sensitive" about it. Finished another one in the
Moon level
Well at least you own Blazblue and don't have to be worried about keeping a subscription to continue playing it. It's not all bad.
Please specify.
And before you say "because the 3DS sells a lot more", had Monster Hunter 4 been a Vita game the Vita would be a much, MUCH healthier platform than what it is now, with a lot more sales in Japan. So it is not a valid argument.
Capcom killed the Vita and I will never forgive them for it.
I know about them, that's why I said I'm waiting for them.
Already have Sine Mora on Steam but will check the Vita version.
Yep that's what I'm doing fellow GAFfer, I just need to be more "sensitive" about it. Finished another one in theMoon level
I think the best you can do is take your time with the levels. I got pretty pissed at it when I first got in and only played it a month after that and it clicked. There's some tedious parts for sure but all around its a fine game.
Muffin Awesome
Member
True this game will push hardware, but I believe the above point in regards to 3ds is that the install base is much greater than the vita's, thus giving more potential sales to that platform.
Edit: Sony is the one slowly killing my vita.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Is this PS+ EU?
Sine Mora has already been on PS+ once in EU. That was in december or january.
You act like Sony's been doing the best they can do keep the Vita in everyone's radar. I think Sony's paying their employees to keep people from learning about the Vita.
Vita sales would've been healthier but not to the extent which would make Monster Hunter a hit. Let's assume a Monster Hunter would've doubled the current Vita LTD. If it sold to 100% of this new, doubled Vita LTD it would still only be a moderate hit and there's absolutely 0% chance it would sell to 100% of the userbase. You've got the whole idea wrong, Capcom didn't kill the Vita. The Vita is "dead" and Capcom had a chance to revive it but turned it down.
As much as you may try and deny it, the 3DS was the smarter business decision.
(As an addition I don't think the Vita is dead in Japan, it will likely carve out a small niche and get a few more quality games over it's lifespan.)
I really agree. I just unlocked "Badlands" now. Will give a break before playing it again. It's a good game for playing in bursts or doing one level here and there, going for lot's of them in the same day makes the game less appealing to me.
According to PSBlog they are.
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/04/17/playstation-plus-your-may-update/
Maybe they're reoffering them :S
corrosivefrost
Member
Kinda bummed that Knytt and BB are free, I bought them both last monthReally excited to get Sleeping Dogs though, hoping I can get some more time on my PS3.
Sleeping Dogs is the only content that's worthwhile for me.
I could sell my BBCS2E card, I suppose, but that game is like 3.1gb in size and I don't have the space for it.
No interest in the other games.
corrosivefrost
Member
This is a ridiculous statement.
SCEE gets pretty good content for PS Vita and PS3 on their PS+ program.
SCEA on the other hand, gives us loads of questionable or niche content.
It's not like the PS3 offerings were better before the Vita program. And the Vita program gives out Uncharted, Gravity Rush, and WipEout 2048, all ridiculously great games.
BlackLagoon
Member
Don't think so. I certainly don't remember it, and it wasn't in either of those months:
December: Batman: Arkham City (PS3)
5th December: LIMBO (PS3)
5th December: Vanquish (PS3)
12th December: Big Sky Infinity (PS Vita and PS3)
19th December: Mortal Kombat (PS Vita) not available in AU
21st December: Knytt Underground (PS Vita and PS3)
2nd January Bioshock 2
2nd January Guardians of Middle Earth
2nd January Mortal Kombat excluding Australia and Germany
2nd January Gotham City Imposters Australia and Germany only
16th January Jet Set Radio (PS Vita)
23rd January Pinball Arcade (PS Vita)
Well, to me it was actually the fact that my current PS Plus allowing me to get PS Vita titles that made me get a Vita. Not only I'm very happy for one subscription = PS3 & Vita, getting a Vita was indeed one of my best decisions gaming wise.
You act as though Monster Hunter would only sell for two weeks, and then drop off the charts. In reality it would've sold on Vita as long as a newer entry wasn't available. More importantly, it would've likely created a domino effect. Square Enix probably wouldn't be so afraid to release anything on Vita. Namco Bandai likely would've been investing exclusives for the platform.
It's clear that Capcom does do charity cases. The fact that they were willing to turn their noses to an easy 400-500k seller on PS3 to release Monster Hunter Tri G HD on Wii U proves that.
That's why it's an almost, PS3 users wouldn't bleed over if that were the case. Though it's definitely not enticing at all for Vita-only users.
Wipeout 2048/GR/Uncharted have been stagnant for a while now, and are only really first-time bonuses. The last enticing Vita PS+ game was Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and that was..January! Time flew. As well as Disgaea 3 for some.
But I definitely wouldn't subscribe to PS+ regularly, until they start offering PS4 games at least. For Vita games alone it clearly isn't worth it.
Never been given away on PS+
You obviously have no idea how big of a deal Monster Hunter is to Japan.
corrosivefrost
Member
I don't know if I would for Vita only either.
And as I have no interest in PS4 at this time... that wouldn't sway me either.
I have plenty of ideas. The Vita WOULD be healthier but not close to the extent of the PSP. The PSP was already fairly popular before MH, the Vita is not even close to being that. MH bolstered PSP's sales from good to impressive and you seem to be suggesting MH would allow the Vita to reach those levels well I'm afraid you're mistaken.
While it's not exactly clear if this is true, a lot of people have cited the DS as simply being too weak. Had it not been many speculate Capcom would have put Monster Hunter on the DS as it was the more succesful platform. Capcom are only doing the smart business decision here: they don't specifically want to see the Vita drown but they do want to be in a position where if it does drown they don't want to be invested.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Oh, than I presume it just the demo in my download list.
Schobeleth
Member
This is pretty much how I feel about Capcom/Monster Hunter not being on Vita. MH is one of the titans of the dedicated handheld space, the name has clout and lots of people know about it. The fact that they've completely turned their backs on Vita means a lot to other devs/franchises, etc.
To put things into perspective, when I went to visit some of my wife's family in China, I was talking with some of her friends (who aren't even "core" gamers), and even they knew about MH. They had PSPs, and they logged hundreds of hours into the games. These are people who normally never touch games, but they definitely were proud of their hunters and their gear.
Instead we get a bunch of MH like games, but not the real deal, which is what people really want. I have a very good friend of mine who will buy a Vita the day Monster Hunter is confirmed for it, mostly because he expected it to come to the system and he desperately wanted dual analog sticks. Until that day comes, he will not buy the system.
I can't imagine how many others are waiting for the same thing, or have just decided to get a 3DS instead.
It's not like Capcom released much on Vita with only Monster Hunter being the only noticeable franchise missing. They released practically nothing on the platform with Monster Hunter being the biggest omission. The joke of a response that Capcom issued to those wondering why Revelations HD wasn't on Vita really did define their feelings towards the platform.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Game. Set. Match. Takao, eloquently put.
I've realized that ~70% of my Vita frustration right now is because of Capcom. The
"Vita-drenaline" status for me right now:
Fighting Games ★★★☆
We have a few franchises worth playing, but there are still too many omissions. The Vita is capable of representing so much more, even many older titles that the PSP could run flawlessly. Capcom, Sega, Namco Bandai, and SNK Playmore need to wake the fuck up.
2D Action/Platformers ★★☆☆
The PSP catalog is pretty much the only thing actually carrying this category barring a few other releases that either feel disposable or have only just been announced. I'd love for Muramasa to be some be-all, end-all, but I don't think it's possible for anyone's standards to be that low. Where is my MMX Collection, Capcom? My Zero Collection? Strider? And where has Konami locked IGA away?
Bullet Heaven/Danmaku Shmups ☆☆☆☆
Where is CAVE? That Akai Katana thing turned out to be a unicorn, and their 360/XBLA/iOS support (or lack thereof overseas) shows no sign of Vita. You can have your Velocities, Sine Moras, Super Stardusts; just give me anything from CAVE or 8ing or some other developer who actually took the time to tune their shit properly. To tie it back to Capcom, Giga Wing, anyone? Mars Matrix? No?
Rhythm Games ★☆☆☆
There are literally only like two genuinely good ones on the system right now. The rest are merely passable (or worse), but the biggest tragedy is that it's slim pickings coming off the PSP which did an admirable job representing this genre. You could go to any dying arcade and still play more there than what the Vita has access to right now.
Arcade-Style Puzzle Games ☆☆☆☆
We don't even have a real Puyo Puyo game for goodness' sake. The Vita is a desert for flashy, loud, score-based tile-matching. So many PSN/XBLA releases that already exist could easily fill this void, including Puzzle Fighter.
Beat 'Em Ups ☆☆☆☆
Dragon's Crown will change this depending on how good it is, but why aren't the D&D games coming to Vita, too, Capcom? And, Treasure, will Guardian Heroes ever even come to PSN? Why are you guys letting indies screw up this genre you perfected so many years ago?
Racers ★☆☆☆
All we have are 30fps installments of mediocre to average racing franchises or poorly-handled incarnations/ports of better ones. The same story applies to any PSP racers that came out, too (Crazy Taxi), but it's even worse because some of them are either totally gone (OutRun) or unavailable on the US PSN (RR2). And, really, how hard is it to port the Xbox version of Burnout 3: Takedown with integrated custom soundtrack support?
Most (though not all) 3D "action" games on Vita right now are also either imaginary, underwhelming, or come from the PSP catalog. What about RE4 HD, Capcom? That DMC collection? Hm? Hmm??? When an audience is begging you to at least be lazy and port stuff, something's up.
I'm getting tired of all this potential without actualization. Gurrrl, Monster Hunter is just the tip of the iceberg for me, though it'd still be pretty important for sales.
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Ohh, FPS, sure! I practically grew up in arcades, though, so I never became particularly attached to that genre unless it's you count light gun stuff like House of the Dead or Time Crisis, lol. We could use more everything on Vita, honestly.
Because, as previously stated, they didn't want to get invested on a potentially sinking ship. It's the same thing that EA are doing with the Wii U and both companies are probably better off as a result. The decision to release MH on the Wii U was not really a charity case as much as a miscalculation. The probably expected the Wii U to do better and expected the Vita to do as it is doing now and I feel that is clear in the levels of support we see. Again Capcom has 0 obligation to release anything for any platform: they're not Sony. If they feel like a project will not be worth the opportunity cost then they'll not do it and it's not their fault the Vita is floundering right now.
@branny you forgot about first person shooters. The Vita's analog sticks would've been a blessing to FPS on the go, but so far we've only had 3 games, and they've all turned out to be shit. Maybe that Killzone will turn out good, but personally I think Killzone is crap to begin with so I'm not holding my breath.
I wish id Software would release classic Doom on the Vita, it would be the only FPS I ever need. But I'm pretty sure the Vita is not even on their radar, they're too busy with iOS games with shitty touch controls.
I wish id Software would release classic Doom on the Vita, it would be the only FPS I ever need. But I'm pretty sure the Vita is not even on their radar, they're too busy with iOS games with shitty touch controls.
Never forget
I really hoped this project would have been delayed to Vita...
Then 3DS Revelations was released.
The sooner you accept the fact that Capcom doesn't even acknowledge the vita, the better you'll be off. In fact take any idea of the Vita getting mainstream support and just throw it right there with Capcom.
It's pretty evident that as right now, the only 'AA' games the Vita will get is from Sony and that's even debatable. The focus on Indie games wasn't an accident, it's forced rescue manviour for the device.
It's pretty evident that as right now, the only 'AA' games the Vita will get is from Sony and that's even debatable. The focus on Indie games wasn't an accident, it's forced rescue manviour for the device.
The Vita will get AAA games from Ubisoft as well.
And the "focus" on indie titles is a result of Sony pushing indie titles for all their platforms, Vita included. It has more to do with the direction the industry has taken over the last few years than anything else.
Was Legends ever confirmed past the retail listings?
The industry might have been shifted, but it means squat if the consumer has not.
Bleh just annoyed by the market position of the Vita right now. I want it to be my main platform, but the support aint there to justify it yet :/
CaptainTiptop
Member
I wonder if Plants vs Zombies 2 will come to Vita.
If it does, it'll probably be later and cost 10x as much as it does on iOS/Android but, still.
If it does, it'll probably be later and cost 10x as much as it does on iOS/Android but, still.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I'm a positive guy and I say that we'll see the annoucement of another Uncharted, another GravityRush, Rayman Legends, AssassinsCreed Rising Phoenix and GranTurismo between now an TGS.
Man. I don't often disagree so much with a Vitabro, but wow.
Would accept zero capcom titles for one Vita Patapon!
(Well maybe a Dragon's Dogma port would change that)
Shit needs to be announced. Vita GT would help the struggle greatly!
I'm feeling so conflicted about Soul Sacrifice right now. I have an unopened copy sitting on my coffee table and I can't decide whether to keep it. It'd be easier if I had paid full price, but I got a nice discount ($28) so if I return it now there's no telling when I'll get it at the same cost if I change my mind later.
At the behest of various gaf'ers I put a solid hour+ into the demo today. I like it, but it really feels like for everything I enjoy, there's something else clawing back at me.
For example, the storytelling is pretty cool, but I find Librom annoying as hell. I like how all the commands manifest as "spells" which you have to delicately manage, but having weapons relegated to spells with time limits kind of sucks. I like how the quests don't take too long, but I hate how everything is arena-based; I wish there could have been a better compromise here. Even the music I'm finding a bit inconsistent -- some tracks are awesome and others not so much.
I'm at a loss... I think most likely I will try to sap every ounce of value I can from the demo and then buy the full version when I can get it for 20 bucks or so. That should suit me well enough.
At the behest of various gaf'ers I put a solid hour+ into the demo today. I like it, but it really feels like for everything I enjoy, there's something else clawing back at me.
For example, the storytelling is pretty cool, but I find Librom annoying as hell. I like how all the commands manifest as "spells" which you have to delicately manage, but having weapons relegated to spells with time limits kind of sucks. I like how the quests don't take too long, but I hate how everything is arena-based; I wish there could have been a better compromise here. Even the music I'm finding a bit inconsistent -- some tracks are awesome and others not so much.
I'm at a loss... I think most likely I will try to sap every ounce of value I can from the demo and then buy the full version when I can get it for 20 bucks or so. That should suit me well enough.
It's okay. I think I'm just very particular about what I like, lol.
Well, I did have it in mind to get P4G, Sonic Racing, Sly 4, Hotline Miami, and Guacamelee! sooner rather than later, but I'll be checking out the remainder of this list when I can; my backlog's pretty massive right now as a whole, and the Vita's just going to add to that. But damn am I happy to have bought it. Vita has no games is a lie.