EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]
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John Dunbar
correct about everything
that bit is certainly in no way unique to gaming industry.
frankie_baby
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Ps4 and x720 have lower clocked CPUs than ps360, are they crap too?
dragonelite
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Also a senior so he has atleast some years of experience.
Yeah other companies are probably already flying around his linkedin page as buzzards.
EmCeeGramr
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You and your party enter a forum. Acrid clouds of postsmoke drift through the dim. The scent of trollene is present, but the Ultramods haven't enforced law in Sektor-02 in years.
You see a half-fanboy whispering in hushed tones to a vid-bard. He seems quite paranoid. Dost thou listen in?
Cerebral Assassin
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I know. I would disagree that the Wii U is a guaranteed success is Japan however, but then again it is too early to judge given that they clearly have devoted a fair bit of their resources to propping up their core business(3DS) which certainly is a guaranteed success in Japan.
-Pyromaniac-
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what a boring life that would be
Vermillion
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Or Nintendo took their puppy and gave it to someone else.
Relaxed Muscle
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ok...
Hahaha, man I hope you're being sarcastic.
dragonelite
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Did he deleted the tyranny tweets i'm not interested in reading all the 30+ previous pages.
Call Me Maybe
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Meh, his point stands. Replace CoD with Battlefield or Madden or whatever.
Dude, don't insult Iwata's locks.
Insult his business decisions if you will.
But never his locks.
Ok. Now I'm confused!
CaptainTiptop
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I.... think you might need to read up a little bit more on Call of Duty.
The EA guy didn't call Nintendo "tyrannical."
That was a poster's characterization of Nintendo, though.
Relaxed Muscle
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I've been hearing that for years. "COD won't sell as much in the next installment". COD(or Battlefield) might die, but dosn't mean they can't create another successful IP based in the same concepts.
Is like saying that action movies will stop making money at some time in the future...
That's GFX programmer talk.
They usually start counting from the first generation with polygons (3D)
YO GFX programmers! 2D Sprites >>>> Polygawns! Cry moar with your AA techniques!
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
It wouldn't be expensive if you didn't care.
Also, to put things in perspective, Vita is profitable to Sony.
People pleading for price drops on those systems have no idea how to run a business. Market share shouldn't be a goal in itself.
If Nintendo had quit the hw business after the Gamecube, as suggested by dozens of people, they wouldn't have struck gold with the Wii. They lose nothing on a dud and win big on a hit.
Gen4 is an internal EA designation. It seems to relate to 3D game engine technology.
Relaxed Muscle
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Is a term DICE employs and that EA started using in their financial meetings.
reelbigtink
Member
It's not unique but it's not a positive thing. And TMZ/Perez Hilton are popular because they stalk celebrities and spread rumors about people who choose to place themselves in the public eye. This guy made some dumb comments on twitter and gaming journalism may cost him his job. He's just a regular dude.
I dunno, it feels different to me.
EA has a right to fire him, but the people who think he SHOULD be fired over this are real jerks.
Thats for EA to deal with.
If i was, I would be able to say whatever I wanted.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
That is actually EA's official stance towards the upcoming gen.
But by just picking Battlefield or CoD, you're missing the point of his post. Simply put, he is calling the EA business model unsustainable, which it is.
frankie_baby
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I guess it'd blow his mind if he ever found out there were polygonic games on the snes and megadrive
I know exactly what tyranny means. Nintendo has a long history of bullying third parties by implying that game design is more important than graphics. And the way they present themselves to their audience doesn't help the industry. Instead of growing some balls, trying to man up and speak the truth like the EA employee they resort to constant apologies and polite answers that somehow are considered to be "professional". What are they, a bunch of babies? Judging by their recent gaming output, seems so.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Are you sure about that because if Sony expects to sell 5 million next year I'm pretty sure that profitability will take a large hit. unless they're planning on ceasing production on the vita
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
You can make money on Nintendo platforms... Making dumb decisions on the Wii U like launching Mass Effect 3 on the platform and then announcing the entire trilogy everywhere else isn't going to help you make money.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Bwahahhaha!
Jesus guys, keep it coming.
Edit: By chance, was your freshman English class taken at a vocational school?
I don't know who I should be identifying as the victims here. Do I have even an inkling of compassion for the delirious Nintendo fans who give Nintendo hobbyists such as myself a bad name, or the unprofessional man children given license through social media to express their unbridled hatred and animosity towards an inanimate corporate entity? No. If anyone deserves an apology, it's the level-headed gamer who, by no fault of his own, finds himself caught in the cross-hairs of warring factions impelled by sheer ignorance and inanity. Why can't I simply enjoy video games as a mode of entertainment without becoming entangled in the politics of the industry or the errant fanaticism that pervades the internet?
Maybe the notion of several competing consoles has overstayed its welcome. For some, the box sitting under the entertainment center has become more than a mechanical assemblage of transistors, shiny plastics, and silicon - it has become emblematic of a profound personal and emotional commitment. In the case of most self-professed hardcore gamers, it is quite literally an extension of the self. Making a derogatory comment about one's console of choice is now tantamount to throwing a punch, or insulting one's kin. I realize this console ingroup vs outgroup mentality has been raging for quite some time now. Many of us fondly recall the tame-by-comparison console wars of the early and mid 90's. With the advent of social media and the growing popularity of forums, however, fanboyism has reached its critical mass.
Not to vindicate the EA senior software engineer, but I have to wonder why the implications behind his words hurt people with presumably NO affiliation whatsoever to Nintendo co Ltd. Part of me sees these individuals as hopelessly ensnared in a social experiment gone horribly wrong, and in dire need of clinical intervention.
Dude, there's a lot of overreactions on both "sides" of this thing.
Case in point:
Call Me Maybe
Banned
How does anything in this post even work
No, he's forgetting about every console generation. Nintendo has always had competition.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
You know, instead of calling for this guy to be fired, we should all take pity on this EA Software Engineer.
Think about it.
Imagine spending 12 years of your life working on something that, within just a couple of years, will get tossed into the discount bargain bin of obsolescence.
When game collectors rifle through old bins full of cartridges or dvd cases, they're always frustrated to find dozens of copies of old sports titles. Nobody gives a shit about old sports titles.
They're looking for the games that have stood the test of time. EA games don't do that - their success is almost entirely predicated on a monopoly of sports licenses and annual releases with the latest rosters and MVP on the cover.
Imagine spending a significant fraction of your life making small incremental changes to what is, essentially, the same game you made last year. And the year before. And the years before that. It's only natural after a few years you start to feel the whole exercise is pointless. You may become so jaded, your soul so damaged, that you take to public forums like Twitter to air your grievances.
Of course he's resentful of Nintendo. With the Wii, and now the Wii U, Nintendo has essentially given the middle finger to the entire game industry. An industry which lives or dies on graphical performance. Would Madden and the other sports games still be popular if it wasn't for the steady climb in graphic realism? What if, like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft had released Wii-level consoles this past generation. Would people still care to run out and buy the latest edition of Madden knowing it would look pretty much identical to the last 8 versions?
On the other hand, maybe firing him at this point would be a boon to him. He might go to work for a different company, one that makes games people genuinely love and care about? Maybe he'll finally get to make a game that, even in two years, will still be worth playing?
Think about it.
Imagine spending 12 years of your life working on something that, within just a couple of years, will get tossed into the discount bargain bin of obsolescence.
When game collectors rifle through old bins full of cartridges or dvd cases, they're always frustrated to find dozens of copies of old sports titles. Nobody gives a shit about old sports titles.
They're looking for the games that have stood the test of time. EA games don't do that - their success is almost entirely predicated on a monopoly of sports licenses and annual releases with the latest rosters and MVP on the cover.
Imagine spending a significant fraction of your life making small incremental changes to what is, essentially, the same game you made last year. And the year before. And the years before that. It's only natural after a few years you start to feel the whole exercise is pointless. You may become so jaded, your soul so damaged, that you take to public forums like Twitter to air your grievances.
Of course he's resentful of Nintendo. With the Wii, and now the Wii U, Nintendo has essentially given the middle finger to the entire game industry. An industry which lives or dies on graphical performance. Would Madden and the other sports games still be popular if it wasn't for the steady climb in graphic realism? What if, like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft had released Wii-level consoles this past generation. Would people still care to run out and buy the latest edition of Madden knowing it would look pretty much identical to the last 8 versions?
On the other hand, maybe firing him at this point would be a boon to him. He might go to work for a different company, one that makes games people genuinely love and care about? Maybe he'll finally get to make a game that, even in two years, will still be worth playing?
Diddy Kong
Banned
Fuck EA
Finally, someone with the authority to define what a real gamer is for the rest of us. Would you like to define who real people are next?
Schnozberry
Member
Um, nobody has to listen to them. In fact, most don't. That's not tyranny.
Isn't that all that matters at this point?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not tyranny, that's a different view point.
Do you actually know what tyranny means, because it's about forcing people to do what they don't want to do for your own ends
EA is no charity, and neither am I. Why should I care? If EA's analysts were right, they'll thrive - and if they were wrong, they'll burn. It's that simple. Either way, people will lose their jobs. Do you consider Nintendo employees losing their jobs less bad?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Lol Battlefield...I meant... :S
Point being they can't rely on AAAA game sales for the foreseable future beca....
Ok I'll get my coat.
I er....actually think you don't.