Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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Honest question:

20 cu's, 64esram, 12 ram

Which one of these sounds real to you? Or are they all a Tale From the Ass?

Now I know this looks like something you've not seen on the leaked documents and Beta does = Final Hardware...

Now think carefully and choose wisely.

Reiko, you keep banging on about these "upgrades".......Do you know something or don't you?

What do you think the specs will end up being?
 
Regarding specs..
I have come to peace with the supposed Durango-specs. Anything above that is just a plus (that is if there is a change in these specs).

The thing is, services/extra functionality does more to help to expand the market/biz than extra flops.

It seems that MS has positioned themselves better in this area than Sony...

But yeah, extra service/functionality will do more for sales than extra flops..

You know, I never had a problem with MS's specs and I'm not worried that PS4's are better. As long as it has good services and features and a good price, I have no problem with getting the weaker console. If the PS4 turns out to be better overall, I"ll just get that instead.
 
it would have the same credibility as vgleaks or edge or whatever to be true just 50%
No, it wouldn't because Vgleaks, Edge or Kotaku actualy have their credibility tested with every rumor they put out so basic fact checking with sources actually happens. Not to mention Edge was 100% on the money with PS4 so they have a great record now.
Has already been done. Many lulz were had.
Haha now I might just do actually.
Don't link your fake pastebin. Might get you banned linking to pastebin. :)
Nah, I'll let the Xbox fans find it, shouldn't be too hard if I end up saying outrageous stuff.
 
He knows nothing.

So you do.

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so because you dont trust a source I need to deal with it?.

Can someone show me a link to a site, that isnt pastebin, or using pastebin as a reference that mentions this stuff.

Or are you guys seriously hedging everything on a website used to share code. Rumours arent even 1% of it.

we had millions rumors on sites before superdae leaks

pointing at a uberpowerfull xbox....kidbeta...

"16 core state of the art cpu"
"dual gpu"
"is like two pcs taped together"
from amd "avatar graphics" and blablalballalab
this sites was inventing?


then superdae came
 
So you do.

Think that if you want to, but ill get mods to confirm If I have to.

we had millions rumors on sites before superdae leaks

pointing at a uberpowerfull xbox....kidbeta...

"16 core state of the art cpu"
"dual gpu"
"is like two pcs taped together"
from amd "avatar graphics" and blablalballalab
this sites was inventing?


then superdae came

Where these on real websites, fan websites that post any positive trash?
 
ughh not rumors again...
basically, I think it can go two ways.


positive side of things:
they do the presentation inside their campus, so they can practically have every single xbox tech guy in there to show and celebrate.
console is great, so they want to show us in detail how they stepped up bigtime.
hardware is number one, but software is magic too.
fucking console is so good that nobody wants to see the cod demo, and would prefer just staring at the new os for the rest of the presentation. ecstatic gaming journos throw their wallets at don mattrick, and proceed to pick him and the entire xbox team up on their shoulders and take them out on a glory parade around redmont. microsoft wins.


not so positive side:
they do the presentation inside their campus, so that they have a better chance of escaping with their lives from the angry mob they'll create. secret basement door located on soccer field so they can escape from tent after speaking.
console is a complete dud, and even worse, brings all drm shit and spy camera bullshit that you could fear.
no matter their plan for escape, many of the xbox "design" team are caught and fall victims to angry mob gaming press. things escalate, ms misses e3, people of redmont kick ms hq out of redmond etc etc.


:D


whatever of the two it is, anything I say or you say, it cannot change the reality that we will finally see come tuesday 8)
I predict that either outcome will give us a good laugh, so its win-win basically :)


but please do not get hyped on pastebin! if it is that you want to get hyped, get hyped because both previous times microsoft has delivered.
 
1. 8GB GDDR5 =/= 8GB DDR3
2. Sony doesn't need to have the better hardware. Their software support is more important than that. The 360 is also pretty powerful hardware but what games really showed that? The PS3 and 360 are about the same graphics output wise, but the PS3 has the better looking games. Imagine if PS4 is more powerful than Nextbox, that gap will be even bigger.

DDR3 is why there is high bandwidth, low latency esram. Both systems GPUs will see similar bandwidth, though GDDR5 makes things simpler. The CPU will not consume much BW and for textures/all else the rumoured DDR3 is adequate. System BW will not be an issue, so there is no reason for them to switch without dropping esram.

Every time I see "3 more days" the song from Halloween 3 pops into my head.


12GB of RAM would seem an awkward and costly addition for the difference it would make. Might as well go 16GB. Won't happen.
 
Think that if you want to, but ill get mods to confirm If I have to.



Where these on real websites, fan websites that post any positive trash?

I don't think mods have to see any documents not yet posted on GAF. You've clearly made up your mind on the subject.

Be easy and wait for the reveal. You'll know which info is real.
 
Think that if you want to, but ill get mods to confirm If I have to.



Where these on real websites, fan websites that post any positive trash?

if you're not willing to come out and

-say you're a dev with knowledge of latest durango dev kit

-say said knowledge goes against any upgrades

it's all lot of uselessness anyway. and you dont seem the type who will ever do that, even if you can.

even if you work in close contact with dev kits, it doesn't preclude such things as late clock/ram upgrades (we know sony did not tell developers of their ram upgrade until it was publicly announced). hell it doesn't completely preclude anything, even a total redesign they just havent unveiled to developers yet.

Edit: The above post assumed kidbeta meant he was a dev. Maybe he meant he has documentation?

I'd say key to that then would be the documentation would need to be dated. And I doubt it even would be. So in that case it's still just up in air really.
 
Think that if you want to, but ill get mods to confirm If I have to.

Wait. Mods to confirm you do know about the next Xbox? Because why would a mod need to confirm you don't? Sure, get a mod in here to confirm you do. Pretty sure Bish will do an account bet with you.
 
Wait. Mods to confirm you do know about the next Xbox? Because why would a mod need to confirm you don't? Sure, get a mod in here to confirm you do. Pretty sure Bish will do an account bet with you.

Never mind. it doesnt matter anyway, i guess we will all believ Reikos source without him actually saying anything.
 
DDR3 is why there is high bandwidth, low latency esram. Both systems GPUs will see similar bandwidth, though GDDR5 makes things simpler. The CPU will not consume much BW and for textures/all else the rumoured DDR3 is adequate. System BW will not be an issue, so there is no reason for them to switch without dropping esram.

Every time I see "3 more days" the song from Halloween 3 pops into my head.

Those bandwidths are not similar, because you can't add them. It's not 170GB/s for 8224MB RAM, it's 68GB/s for 8192MB and 102GB/s for 32MB. Just because the GPU can access both pools at the same time doesn't change their respective bandwidth.
 
Gemüsepizza;58035776 said:
Those bandwidths are not similar, you can't add them. It's not 170GB/s for 8224MB RAM, it's 68GB/s for 8192MB and 102GB/s for 32MB. Just because the GPU can access both pools at the same time doesn't change their respective bandwidth.

Interesting how some people become tech-experts over night :) Not especially you but also many other users on various forums on the net.
 
Never mind. it doesnt matter anyway, i guess we will all believ Reikos source without him actually saying anything.

I didn't say that. You wrote that you know specs of the Xbox and that you will get a mod in here to confirm it. I'll await a mod to come in to this thread and confirm you're legit. Go ahead. I'm calling your bluff on knowing about the next Xbox.
 
I didn't say that. You wrote that you know specs of the Xbox and that you will get a mod in here to confirm it. I'll await a mod to come in to this thread and confirm you're legit. Go ahead. I'm calling your bluff on knowing about the next Xbox.

What? I wrote I know something. not the final specs.
 
I didn't say that. You wrote that you know specs of the Xbox and that you will get a mod in here to confirm it. I'll await a mod to come in to this thread and confirm you're legit. Go ahead. I'm calling your bluff on knowing about the next Xbox.

He is legit. Doesn't rule out that specs could have been changed.
 
Interesting how some people become tech-experts over night :) Not especially you but also many other users on various forums on the net.

I don't think that you need much tech knowledge to see the difference (I guess you can compare RAM to water bottles for example, with different sizes and different openings). In order to fill the 32MB, you have to take away bandwidth from DDR3 RAM, which then is again taken away from the overall bandwidth. It's just not the same as having 8GB with 176GB/s.
 
RAM is obviously the most plausible, since both the CU's and ESRAM would mean quite a bit larger die.

And from what I read from people who know more about this than me, 12CU's + ESRAM is already roughly the same size as Sony's 18 CU's.

And that is probably as large as you want to go because of costs, yields, costs/yields...

except wouldn't ram mean changing the entire bus?
 
Gemüsepizza;58035968 said:
I don't think that you need much tech knowledge to see the difference (just think of it as water bottles). In order to fill the 32MB, you have to take away bandwidth from DDR3 RAM, which then is again taken away from the overall bandwidth. It's just not the same as having 8GB with 176GB/s.

You don't have to explain anything technically to me but we don't know how this will turn out in *system*-performance. This is what will produce graphics for consoles.
 
Those gifs make me consider buying Crackdown 2... how does it compare to the first one again ? I remember trying the demo of CD2, but not liking it for some reason. Maybe the zombie-guys-at-night thing.
 
Gemüsepizza;58035776 said:
Those bandwidths are not similar, because you can't add them. It's not 170GB/s for 8224MB RAM, it's 68GB/s for 8192MB and 102GB/s for 32MB. Just because the GPU can access both pools at the same time doesn't change their respective bandwidth.

Yes it pretty much does. That is how memory is used for graphics processing. You don't use 8GB per frame. What durango would do in esram, PS4 would use the same BW to GDDR5. One system is much more straight forward being the major difference. Look at how edram was used on 360.
 
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