Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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The architecture is far more important, as long as the 2 consoles don't stray too far apart in their raw performance games should be looking amazing on either platform.


can i ask a question? u honestly think that the x360 in the last years was standing good compared to ps3?

more we was ahead more the power of the ps3 came out ...at least IMO was like this
i wish ms learn the lesson and made a future proof machine
 
Do you compare controller rumble packs to rift? Because controller rumble packs increase immersion.

Hmm, I see you point, guess I worded it too broadly. Illumiroom attempt to increase immersion by increasing the visible field of view, either by direct projection of the game or by aspects of it to affect your peripheral vision. Oculus Rift has your field of view and peripheral vision covered, to a larger degree, and it's all of TV quality (albeit low res TV quality right now). If you're playing on your own the OR is the superior choice here, and that's not even mentioning the other major advantages - 3D and motion tracking.
 
That and not inducing motion sickness in its users. Between that and actually being able to use it with your friends (kind of a big deal) I couldn't see OR ever going mainstream while something like illumiroom could hit mass market mainstream appeal.

Yep. I'm already worried about that. I'm already getting sick from just watching those YouTube videos.
 
Wow I did not know it is only one hour. Good news to be honest. Seems like they are getting right to the point unlike sony that had an absurd amount of fluff in their conference.
 
Is anyone planning to make a spoiler free thread with links to the archived video like was done for the ps meeting? I'll be in an exam while the event is going on, would like to be able to watch it afterwards without already knowing all the announcements.
 
I'm not sure that you understand what a straw man is. Your comment only works if we accept the premise that Illumiroom is unarguably an improvement to immersion. Then we have to accept that I was attacking immersion and not a very specific product prototype. Also, I'm pretty sure I didn't make the "detracts" argument. My questions specifically had to do with the usability and appeal of the product five years from now.

Regarding Illumiroom not enhancing immersion: Honestly I think we can all agree that this is an immersion enhancing experience. If you disagree I'd love to hear why.

Regarding the prototype and its usability in 5 years: The product itself will be improved and consumerized and id wager to bet it will age gracefully, seeing as it just displays 3d-mapped low res visual data. Its not like we would notice the difference in visual fidelity the same way that we do with games from 5 years into the Gen vs launch games.
 
Well, no. It accomplished the task of creating something for someone who is afraid of both modern controllers and modern gaming. Playing Just Dance isn't exactly double-tapping Y to cancel reload animations after switching mags in Call of Duty. Kinect had a core gaming component to its message -- even if that message was to simply get people to pull the trigger.

You should watch the concept video again. There's not a single moment suggesting you would use kinect in a shooter, for example. The most "traditional" game portrayed in there was the racing game (with the tire changing minigame), everything else was a kid fighting or stomping like a monster, a quiz game, sport minigames, a virtual dressing room, and voice control for videos.

Besides, I don't see how motion control games wouldn't qualify as "modern gaming". A game like Just Dance, Guitar Hero or Wii Sports is probably more modern than your regular FPS, which is from a genre that has been popular since the 90s.
 
You make that sound like a small afterthought. I do a LOT of gaming with friends, am I going to favor;

A - Sitting looking like a twat with a headset on while they sit and look at me looking like a twat with a headset on.

Or

B - Playing Halo Firefight splitscreen with massively enhanced immersion.

If you were presented with that option vs all of your friends in their own houses, each with a Rift and each of you "in" the same game world, looking at each other's avatars, would you really pick the Illumiroom option? This OR concept when fully realised is just so crazy, in a good way, how could anyone not want that?

That and not inducing motion sickness in its users. Between that and actually being able to use it with your friends (kind of a big deal) I couldn't see OR ever going mainstream while something like illumiroom could hit mass market mainstream appeal.

The using it with your friends thing I refer to my answer above, that's how it can hit the mainstream. The motion sickness thing is a very good point, and sadly no matter how accurately they develop the motion tracking it will always affect some people.
 
Wow I did not know it is only one hour. Good news to be honest. Seems like they are getting right to the point unlike sony that had an absurd amount of fluff in their conference.

There certainly was a lot at the Sony event. Thankfully I didn't watch it live and got to skip the parts that didn't interest me. It'll be interesting to see what the major criticism is from this reveal.
 
can i ask a question? u honestly think that the x360 in the last years was standing good compared to ps3?

more we was ahead more the power of the ps3 came out ...at least IMO was like this
i wish ms learn the lesson and made a future proof machine
Technically the 360 stood good, it was a very well designed system. Sony has some very pretty games though. The PS3 wasn't pushing more polygons, higher res textures (where DVD wasn't a limitation) or framebuffers. I think the only apparent emerging difference has been better PP AA, where SPUs were put to good use, and motion blur in some games. So cleaner image quality in a few big games.
 
get the spec/SDF crap out of this thread...

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Flashy stars and sparks would be nice. Just extending weather and illumination off the screen would add much to immersion. As long as framerate matches the game. Blurred scenery flashing by, explosions lighting up the room and the like

Nice and all, but that bears no tangible effect on the gaming experience. Otherwise, my soda can and chocolate bar could be regarded as enhancers.
 
Gonna be in my undies, box of pizza and having my wife complain that I took a day off for this. Lmao. (I needed a day off=/)



That is the best way to look at it. Hell, even IF they don't drop a bomb on us and say that it's actually more powerful, 1.2 isn't bad anyway.

1.2 isn't bad,it would be terrible.We are talking about xbox MS has a reputation to maintain.
 
Regarding Illumiroom not enhancing immersion: Honestly I think we can all agree that this is an immersion enhancing experience. If you disagree I'd love to hear why.

Regarding the prototype and its usability in 5 years. The product itself will be improved and consumerized and id wager to bet it will age gracefully, seeing as it just displays 3d-mapped low red visual data. Its not like we would notice the difference in visual fidelity the same way that we do with games from 5 years into the Gen vs launch games.
Not so much the visual fidelity angle as in the "are people going to boot this thing up every single time they game five years from now" angle.

Aside from 'immersion' being only slightly better than 'visceral' when it comes to gaming rhetoric, I don't exactly buy the unadulterated claim that just because you get some extra images broadcast on your wall that you are somehow more immersed. I think all of the justification for the device comes from its longevity.
 
What other game does a character get told to "wake up"

Conker? Banjo?

I think there's something hidden in that comment.

A bit like Link always getting woke up.

Halo has Master Chief, aka John, who wakes up in the beginning of Halo 1 and Halo 4, but that's all I can think of.
 
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Personally I find this "Sony Defense Force"/"SDF" crap a lot more annoying, to be honest.

its an MS hype thread... counter arguments not necessary... grab an Only on Xbox Avatar and grab a seat for the show... this is not the thread for all other comments about why not to be excited for Xbox. there are plenty of other threads for that... a lot of the last 10 pages are trolling
 
Nice and all, but that bears no tangible effect on the gaming experience. Otherwise, my soda can and chocolate bar could be rearded as enhancers.
If a bigger screen and higher resolution and 7.1 sound has a tangible effect, so does this. You see more. It covers more of your FOV with its low resolution projection.
 
Halo has Master Chief, aka John, who wakes up in the beginning of Halo 1 and Halo 4, but that's all I can think of.

I would laugh so hard if we hear "wake up", and then Master Chief gets out of cryo sleep for the third time for Halo 5.

Maximum trolling.
 
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