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[Saty]

http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130522214715-10904058-the-technology-behind-xbox-one

Both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have adopted electronics and an integrated systems-on-a -chip (soc) architecture that unleashes magnitudes more compute and graphics power than the current generation of consoles. These architectures are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market and their unique design of the hardware, the underlying operating system and the live service layer create one of the most compelling platforms to reimagine game mechanics.

Our benchmarks on just the video and audio performance are 8-10 times superior to the current gen. The compute capabilities of these platforms and the data transfer speeds we can now bank on, essentially removes any notion of rationing of systems resources for our game engines

 

[Bumhead]

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[MormaPope]

What does that mean though?

What generation are current PC's at right now? Generation 20XX?

 

[Canis lupus]

In terms of the amount of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

edit: forgot to mention amount

 

[StevieP]

In terms of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

How many polygons can the gddr5s make?

Companies should really stop making statements like these, honestly. Including video card manufacturers. It's disingenuous at best, completely dishonest at worst.

 

[Sentenza]

Jesus Christ.

In terms of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

No, it's not, this must be either a joke or you have no clue of what you are talking about.

 

[catabarez]

In terms of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

But that is pooled RAM, not dedicated.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I guess that explains why the new EA Sports engine is XBone and PS4 only.

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

In terms of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

All high-end PC GPUs use GDDR5 VRAM.

RAM doesn't make computations, just so you know. CPUs and GPUs do that, and the top-end PC CPUs and GPUs right now demolish what the Xbone and PS4 have inside of them.

 

[Man]

I think he means overall architecture elegance.

Unified memory, HSA, dedicated units for video/audio, Compute setup etc.

On PC's you have to constantly copy data between Video memory and System memory, huge buffers to accommodate the modular nature etc.

I recommend everyone to read Mark Cerny's breakdown of the PS4: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php

 

[Prine]

Jesus Christ.

Fenton!

 

[Samurai_Heart]

 

[Nocturno999]

I hope I'm wrong but I can see most games running at 30 FPS.

 

[Stallion Free]

There is no way a PC could ever run the Ignition engine. Thanks for explaining EA.

 

[Maxrunner]

And EA also lies too...

 

[Erethian]

I think he means overall architecture elegance.

Unified memory, HSA, dedicated units for video/audio, Compute setup etc.

On PC's you have to constantly copy data between Video memory and System memory, huge buffers to accommodate the modular nature etc.

I recommend everyone to read Mark Cerny's breakdown of the PS4: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php

In the preceding sentence he's talking about compute and graphics power, so that's the context under which he made the statement.

It's also funny to have EA say this while Microsoft, by their own admission, talk about not pushing the hardware envelope this time around.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Well EA has interests that the 2 consoles sell well so, by saying that, they're not so different from a sony or MS PR.

 

[M°°nblade]

PS4 & One architecture 'a generation ahead of the highest end PC' would be a much better thread title.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Really...are they a generation ahead of the workstation you used to render all your game footage, even?

Don't you see they have PS5 + XBox Two Electric Boogaloo as their workstations, they're just down-porting from them

They are so far ahead of the game(s), the game(s) comes to them
(Yeah that sounded stupid when I wrote it =/)

 

[Massa]

Really...are they a generation ahead of the workstation you used to render all your game footage, even?

They probably didn't render it in real time.

 

[NemesisPrime]

In terms of the amount of (GDDR5) ram, PS4 definetly is a generation ahead of the highest end GPU.

edit: forgot to mention amount

Lol. Here we go again.

 

[TheChaos0]

Ah c'mon!

 

[Metalmurphy]

Really...are they a generation ahead of the workstation you used to render all your game footage, even?

Irrelevant as they weren't rendered in real time lol


*edit, Damn it Massa!

 

[artist]

These guys and Nvidia should have a go at each other - two extremes.

 

[Ushae]

PS4 & One architecture 'a generation ahead of the highest end PC' would be a much better thread title.

Agreed. He's right, since with consoles you can code to the metal and make things far far more efficient than any PC could dream of achieving. PC requires brute force hardware to output great graphics. Consoles can rely on their architecture.

 

[freddy]

EA is selling wolf tickets again.

 

[aganu]

This explains why Ignite engine won't be available for FIFA 14 PC. Too weak to catch up with dem consoles.

 

[moniker]

The amount of spin and lies from various sources these past few has been off the charts.

 

[Projectjustice]

Lies just dont stop with Wii U.

 

[Jinko]

I can see his point in that technologically they are a generation ahead, ie everything on the same SoC and the PS3 having 8 gbs of gddr but current PC tech can make that up in terms of sheer power and numbers.

 

[def sim]

"of the highest end PC"

This is ridiculous. I know EA has games on these two platforms so they must talk it up, but straight up comparing them to the literal best PC made today is nuts.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

And one? If people have hard time debating for ps4 how is 50% less powerful system there too?

 

[Thrakier]

They don't know shit. 640p @23-27FPS confirmed for the next few years.

 

[Durante]

"Our benchmarks on just the video and audio performance are 8-10 times superior to the current gen."

This data point doesn't fit with what he is saying -- the video performance of "the highest end PC" is > 30x superior to current-gen consoles.

 

[Hasney]

What does that mean though?

What generation are current PC's at right now? Generation 20XX?

Well with the 700GTX series out soon, AMD's 7XXX series out now and i7's worming their way into PC's, it looks like we're on the 7th generation. This is the 8th generation of consoles. EA is right guys.

May as well pack up our PC's and go home.

 

[FGMPR]

Agreed. He's right, since with consoles you can code to the metal and make things far far more efficient than any PC could dream of achieving. PC requires brute force hardware to output great graphics. Consoles can rely on their architecture.

So does that mean that the NES is a generation ahead of current PC's?

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Really...are they a generation ahead of the workstation you used to render all your game footage, even?

100W of pure power.

 

[Ashes]

super charged. SU-PER CCHHAAARR-GGGGEE---EDDDD!!!!!!

Spoiler

8gbGDDR5ram

 

[Glass Rebel]

"Our benchmarks on just the video and audio performance are 8-10 times superior to the current gen."

This data point doesn't fit with what he is saying -- the video performance of "the highest end PC" is > 30x superior to current-gen consoles.

Maybe they borrowed Digital Foundry's PCs? :S

 

[InPlosion]

The worst thing of all, that there are people out there who are going to belive these outlandish and hypocrite claims, I deeply pity them.

 

[LukeTim]

Isn't saying that the architecture is a generation ahead of PCs kind of making a false assumption that this is the direction PCs are headed?

HSA and unified memory is not something I should imagine gaming PCs are ever going to want or need. Those are technologies used in mobile devices... inherently less powerful than PCs... technologies specifically designed to be less powerful than PC technology.

 

[DieH@rd]

If he is talking about ARHITECTURE, then yes, he is right. But powerwize, no.

 

[specialguy]

What is he talking about! Only the PS4 is, Xbox One totally sucks barely better than wii u /GAF

 

[Hasney]

Good to see the audio performance is so fantastic though. I bet it's like having sex with my ear and leaving a messy creampie.

 

[Lulubop]

I guess we're Wii-U tier.

 

[FGMPR]

If he is talking about ARHITECTURE, then yes, he is right. But powerwize, no.

Either way the statement is rhetorical and likely to be shown for what it is once next-gen titles start releasing.

 

[UrbanRats]

I'd say they're a generation ahead of ILM's and WETA's render farms put together.

 

[Polk]

maybe he meant in kissing EA' ass. That would make sense.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Either way the statement is rhetorical and likely to be proven nonsense.

If we assume he means architecture, and by generation he means GPU generation (yearly refresh cycle), then we could extract a statement that might be true. These machines are almost certainly using advanced designs that we won't see until the 2013 series GPUs start coming out this year.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

I think he's talking about efficiency in using the resources.