Big Takeover
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Forza Motorsport 5 announced
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No more Jank Passengers. I want them off my train.
Imagine if FM5 turns out to be everything we've always wanted. Then imagine having to play it with a gamepad.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Are no 360 USB accessories going to work on Xbox One, then?
USB and wireless. New protocols.
But Kinect 2 is cool, so it's all good. Brum brum!
/shitebox
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
In all honesty I never expected accessories to be cross-gen compatible. Has there ever been a system besides the PS2 that can use the previous gen's controllers?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Where was it said USB stuff is all-new? I haven't read that anywhere. Seems weird.
Sorry, thought you were talking about wired controllers that plug into USB. These won't work.
Not sure about other USB devices.
IF FM5 is everything we ever wanted, and I mean EVERYTHING, then I might consider keeping the Fanatec for current gen,PC,PS4 and buy the MS branded wheel (provided it's a good wheel of course). If it's lagging in expectations, then yeah, we are in a terrible dilemma...
However
There is still a glimmer of hope..
That would be a complete 'no buy' situation for me and most others probably. I dont need absolutely perfectly replicated tracks. 'Very close' is good enough for me. I absolutely NEED quantity when it comes to track. Forza 2 was great because it introduced me to online racing, but I could never go back to such a sparse amount of tracks.
I think the biggest improvement I want to see, track-wise, is the road surfaces. They've improved in small steps with Forza 3's Nurburgring GP track and then with Forza 4's tracks, but its still far off what it should be. This is something that actually affects the driving and racing. Whether or not a track is the exact 14.56 meters across and the signage on the sides is accurate does not whatsoever.
Fuck, any of em. Just having them able to model suspension movement would be huge and open up a world of choices. Specifically:
- Multiple Caterhams
- Ariel Atoms
- Formula Ford
- Formula 3
- Formula 2
I'd like faster ones like GP2 and F1, but honestly, the LMP1 cars in Forza are already a tad too twitchy and sensitive for me. These would be another level beyond that. I probably wouldn't drive them much. Some vintage F1 cars would be excellent, though. With rFactor, I always found the low-to-mid level open-wheelers to be the most fun to drive and race.
EDIT: Oh crikey, thats the actual box art? I was hoping that logo was a placeholder. Its shit.
Assuming we get a different trailer for E3 (and Christ, I hope we do. I'd hate the arcade/festival 'vibe' from the current one to be perpetuated) then I hope Turn 10 go totally balls-out and show open wheelers, night racing, the new tracks, wet tracks, precipitation, headlights (not DRLs), pit stops, helicopters, blimps, new cars, Porsches, leaves on the track, marbles, variable TOD, hi-res liveries, upgrading, body kits, qualifying sessions...
I'm still not sure what that first trailer was trying to say.
I'm still not sure what that first trailer was trying to say.
Download VLC. Works fine with that for me (it plays everything).
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html
Oops! Dee Pee!
Big Takeover
Member
Yeah, I'm a quality over quantity guy. I'm a lot less critical of fictitious tracks, but if you're going to have a real location in your game, it needs to look real, and not 2005 real, 2013 real.
Just my preference of course.
eso76
Member
Thanks, it works !
Would have hoped it would install codecs to allow me to open the video in premiere and do a frame by frame analysis, but it still won't work with other players.
Anyway, If that's the kind of IQ we can expect from FM5 in 1080p (and it does look entirely real time) then holy shit. 1.2TF or not, the leap with the X360 is huge already.
And those shaders and textures. Damn.
If using Forza 4 is any indication....you'll be substantially faster around every track.
Seriously, you and I are on the same page. I think this is why I love racing that track so much. The general instability of cars during braking was really intense and fun. Don't believe me? Try stopping a MUSTANG going downhill with the (superior) chasis jumping all around! You'll thank me later. However, I also believe that the circuits provided need to become grittier in terms of pavement texture...or something. Everything was way too clean.
Spaceman Spiff
Member
The E3 showing for FM5 has to be huge, no doubt, and one that could be a make-or-break moment for a lot of people, myself included. They won't just be selling me a game, but effectively, an entire console.
Then there's Le Mans two weeks later. With Forza now having the branding association with the Tertre Rouge and 1st Mulsanne chicane signage, I'm
What say you, BADNED? Any cryptic hints, or is it too early for you to be toying with us peasants?
KTM X-Bow
Catheram Seven
Catheram R500
Ariel Atom
Ariel Atom V6
Formula Ford
Formula 3
GP3
GP2
Lotus T125
Formula Renault
Formula BMW
Maserati 250F
BAC Mono
Sprint cars
Some kind of off-road buggy for a spec series
Different kind of karts with different amount of power
That's not even touching F1 cars due to the licence...
With open wheel, they could add a tremendous amount of spec series events in career and bring a lot of variety IMO.
Cool! Thought it would. I've used VLC as my default video player for years now. Not sure if it's the best out there, but it's never let me down yet.
Talking of videos, this Audi R8 advert literally just came on the telly, and I froze, convinced it was an ad for FM5 for some reason*. I'd not seen it before. Got a slight chubby.
*Edit: Just realised why. It's very Autovista-like. Be a nice template for FM5 AV, actually...
skyfinch
Member
this is why I'm shocked when some are complaining about the game's visuals. If the trailer is truly in game, I'll be more than happy, it's well beyond anything this generation. This at 1080p and 60fps makes me not give a flying fuck about ram flops and Tera gig banana butts.
eso76
Member
yeah, we use it at work, but i didn't want to install another player on my rig.
Plus...ahem...well, i hate its default "cone" icon for videos.
Anyway, through VLC i learned it's AVdn / DNxHD.
Avid hd codec, can be easily found on apple quicktime's website.
Installed it, and now i can open the video in any player and edit in premiere.
guys
situation xbox is already fucked up beyond repair
last thing we need to do, is raise expectations to unrealistic levels for forza.
I am betting that T10 again is running on a tight clock (proven already, since f5=day1),
so you know that at one point they are gonna tell them "start compiling you bitches with what you've got ready" or something in those lines.
so lets not set ourselves for disappointment here. there's no way in hell that all tracks are redone from scratch. also there's no way that all the racetracks we wanted will be in, too.
one "citiy" most probably takes a lot more time and effort to make than one racetrack.
since they showed one city already, I guess there will be more than one. right?
microsoft apparently runs this franchise as the 'jack of all trades' car game. hopefully they dont fuck it up beyond repair, too. (helios take notes!)
I think I completely hate this piece of shit new xbox, and that's definitely a first for a game console to make me think like that,
but dat 1080p forza day 1 ..... 8)
situation xbox is already fucked up beyond repair
last thing we need to do, is raise expectations to unrealistic levels for forza.
I am betting that T10 again is running on a tight clock (proven already, since f5=day1),
so you know that at one point they are gonna tell them "start compiling you bitches with what you've got ready" or something in those lines.
so lets not set ourselves for disappointment here. there's no way in hell that all tracks are redone from scratch. also there's no way that all the racetracks we wanted will be in, too.
one "citiy" most probably takes a lot more time and effort to make than one racetrack.
since they showed one city already, I guess there will be more than one. right?
microsoft apparently runs this franchise as the 'jack of all trades' car game. hopefully they dont fuck it up beyond repair, too. (helios take notes!)
I think I completely hate this piece of shit new xbox, and that's definitely a first for a game console to make me think like that,
but dat 1080p forza day 1 ..... 8)
guys
situation xbox is already fucked up beyond repair
last thing we need to do, is raise expectations to unrealistic levels for forza.
I am betting that T10 again is running on a tight clock (proven already, since f5=day1),
so you know that at one point they are gonna tell them "start compiling you bitches with what you've got ready" or something in those lines.
so lets not set ourselves for disappointment here. there's no way in hell that all tracks are redone from scratch. also there's no way that all the racetracks we wanted will be in, too.
one "citiy" most probably takes a lot more time and effort to make than one racetrack.
since they showed one city already, I guess there will be more than one. right?
microsoft apparently runs this franchise as the 'jack of all trades' car game. hopefully they dont fuck it up beyond repair, too. (helios take notes!)
I think I completely hate this piece of shit new xbox, and that's definitely a first for a game console to make me think like that,
but dat 1080p forza day 1 ..... 8)
The only thing that makes your post better is imagining your voice as you say it. The one or two times we raced I believe I couldn't stop laughing at you.
eso76
Member
guys
situation xbox is already fucked up beyond repair
last thing we need to do, is raise expectations to unrealistic levels for forza.
I am betting that T10 again is running on a tight clock (proven already, since f5=day1),
I honestly think T10 was summoned to save the day.
FM5 was shown instead of PGR5 and T10 was again put on a tight deadline, which means they "know FM will be ready for launch, they just don't know what game it will be". Yet again.
Then again, i'm sure T10 have been working on stuff like rain, wet, night, open wheelers, dirt for a long time. Some of that went into Horizon and part of Horizon will go into FM.
I don't know about rain and weather (although there's fog in the vid) but dynamic TOD; that should be in.
Analyzing the trailer, shadows from the scenery are very low res in points and flicker around.
They don't look prebaked, they seem to be dynamic shadow maps.
Big Takeover
Member
I love when P3 goes Socrates on us.
skyfinch
Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all tracks modeled in high res then lowered to fit the 360's memory? Maybe they will be able to use the high res models this time, and would only need to make minor adjustments here and there. Sort of like they did with the cars. High quality models for photomode and autovita are already done and can be port over quickly.
Red Chocobo
Banned
Perfect Dark Zero was equally appalling.
you have to always look at things in the right perspective.
when forza 2 was out, and we were having terrific fun, in a rock-steady 720p60hz racing game with good physics and fantastic online and customization capabilities,
the alternative was what? gt4 on ps2?
dont troll forza, since 2005 it always offers the most for the time it arrives.
Fuck man, a dyno!
That sounded incredible. I'm convinced that's what the dyno and sounds are like in FM5 aye Turn 10?
Aye?
To be honest, I quite liked the trailer. It was fresh, it was fast and exciting. A step away from the norm. I mean, it is a city track after all so the festival atmosphere fits in quite well.
Having said that though, I agree in that the next trailer would need to go back to it's stomping ground...the track.
I would like to see Turn 10 pretty much put all their eggs in one basket as it were. Come out fighting and wow the world with all they have to offer.
Close racing, new locations, new features, new graphical/sound effects..etc. Get us all excited and don't hold back.
If successful in conveying all there is in that one trailer, I guarantee people will sit up and take notice, and let's face it, MS need all the positivity it can get at the moment and to show off your premier racing title in the best possible light is definitely a step in the right direction..
...didn't Turn10 do something similar (as far as making general trailers) with Bernese Alps on Forza4?
Perfect end to the MS keynote at E3: Dan walks on stage, apparently naked but with a knee-length beard covering his modesty. He shows open wheelers, night racing, the new tracks, wet tracks, precipitation, headlights, pit stops, helicopters, blimps, new cars, Porsches, leaves on the track, marbles, variable TOD, hi-res liveries, upgrading, body kits and qualifying sessions, all in real-time at a v-synched 1080p/60. Kinect doesn't get a mention. As the rapturous applause finally dies down he winks suggestively, puts one hand on his hip, pulls his beard to the side and instead of Little Dan swinging in the breeze there's... a Fanatec FFB wheel. He does the splits, transitions into a head-spin then moonwalks off stage. Curtain falls, house lights come up.
Paladin CL
Member
Im so happy with the whole Ferrari in NFS deal, im pretty sure we will have Porsche back in Forza right out of the box with that, Win-Win.
Maybe PGR gets Porshe as well
(although I was pretty happy with it without them... the Yellowbird and RGT12 filled the void nicely)Why didn't those games have 600 cars?
And man, I'm tired of hearing about PGR! And Mustangs! lol
Winterfang
Banned
why are people so sure we are getting another PGR?
phosphor112
Banned
Why hasn't thee Callaway Corvette Sledgehammer made a return in 3 and 4? =/ Is it licensing issues? I hope it's in this one.
Simply Sami
Member
Seriously, what is so fun about this game?
Online is so basic and a joke on Forza 4. If you have the right tunes you gain a few seconds on your opponents and its not even playing field.
Online is so basic and a joke on Forza 4. If you have the right tunes you gain a few seconds on your opponents and its not even playing field.
Because it's all about quality, not quantity. PGR never had 300 American muscle cars
You should have never been "In"!
Seriously I told you guys a long time ago NOT to support this console(360) and to get your get racing game fix on the PC. Now you're going to get burned with these Fanatec wheels not being useable on the X1.
The PC has and will always be the no.1 system to play racing games/sims. With pCars, Asetto Corsa, rFactor 2, F1 2013, GRID 2, iRacing, and a *shitload* of arcade racing games via emulation at your disposal, there is NO reason to get an Xbox One! None!
Come on over where the grass is greener guys. I promise you won't regret it.
Main point is that the resources were prioritized differently. Dont think at any point Turn 10 claimed that open-wheelers weren't possible on the 360 hardware. They just never invested time into creating the modeling that would have to work on hundreds and hundreds of cars and not just the open-wheel ones.Because it's all about quality, not quantity. PGR never had 300 American muscle cars
Just seemed like a bit of a silly comment to make! Anyways, would be great to see, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. The game hasn't been in development for that long. With all new hardware to work on, I doubt there was a ton of time for all kinds of time-intensive new features. Hope to be proven wrong on that.
Oh, I've been nothing but batshit crazy since PGR wasn't announced on Tuesday. So it's not silly as such, just completely mental
As for a new PGR actually existing, I've gone into a bit of detail in the other thread with a few theories (like crazy people have "theories") about how it's likely be released on 360 as a last hurrah rather than compete directly with FM5. They already have some assets for places like Dubai in that leaked video from an ex-Bizarre dev, they have experience with the system, there was a rumour a LONG time ago that PGR5 was going to be built off the existing PGR4 engine (which a lot of people, including myself, thought was odd given that it was basically a given it'd be on the Durango)... some things are just making sense.
Or maybe I just have a Beautiful Mind
Welp, time to save up for another fanatech wheel I guess.
Why must you always get my hopes up? Man, those cars, on that track... Add dynamic weather so its dry down the bottom and raining/hailing up the top of the mountain.... UGH RACER OF FOREVER.
So, the Nord debate will rage on into next gen as well...looking forward to it.
Anyway, the Nord can die a bad death if it means Spa and Bathurst are in instead.
If the acquisition of the HDT/Holden/Ford/FPV licenses are still on the cards, holy shit!
Mount Panorama and Peter Brock.....fucking epic!!!
....and here we go!!
Turn 10 you good bastards you, don't let me down this time. Please, for the sake of all things carbureted, don't let me down!!
Why must you always get my hopes up? Man, those cars, on that track... Add dynamic weather so its dry down the bottom and raining/hailing up the top of the mountain.... UGH RACER OF FOREVER.
Oh man, I'd seen your tag a million times but until I've seen this post in here and in the Outrun thread, I never realised how accurate it was. In a great way, obviously!
You should join us in the PC racing sim thread, because I don't think I've seen you around those parts.
Surely you're just trolling me at this point.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34528314&postcount=508
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