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SHOCKING NEWS: Xbox One Voice Commands During Demo Weren't Real Time
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Alx
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They did learn. A faked demo is much better than a "Bam!" incident, especially when you can later have private sessions with the journalists to show them the real thing in details.
Does anybody believe that voice commands on the Xbone won't work ?
Shit, i'm high. THe only people arguing that at the time were on n4g, this helps my memory a lot better. The star wars cirque show was nonsense.
yeah, and there's no way they're doing the same thing as the first kinect reveal where every extremely limited demo takes place in ideal conditions
I won't hear a bad word said about Kinect 2.0.
It's the reason I am most hyped for the Xbone. I can't wait to control my cable box using hand gestures and voice commands, it's going to be totally awesome. The day I mount the Kinect camera to the top of my TV and plug it in will be the happiest day of my life, apart from that time when space monkeys took me on their space submarine to Jupiter where we had tea and cakes with Elvis and Godzilla.
It's the reason I am most hyped for the Xbone. I can't wait to control my cable box using hand gestures and voice commands, it's going to be totally awesome. The day I mount the Kinect camera to the top of my TV and plug it in will be the happiest day of my life, apart from that time when space monkeys took me on their space submarine to Jupiter where we had tea and cakes with Elvis and Godzilla.
Always-honest
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That much was clear. And let me state again that i have no clue why people feel the need to give voice commands to devices. I think it is the most retarded thing in development right now. It's great when you're driving in a car (siri). But to be shouting to a device in your house or even worse, on the street with Google glasses really sounds like a hell on earth to me.
BlastProcessing
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BloodMoney
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"see it's that fast" (after switching between the os and the price is right)
wellllllll, not really........ considering it was faked.
wellllllll, not really........ considering it was faked.
plagiarize
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one plausible thing I can see that clicker doing, is toggling the Kinect mic on and off so that it isn't listening to him when it shouldn't be, which would be logical because he's talking about Xbox a lot, and you don't want it constantly doing random things.
so perhaps less a fake, and more of way of adjusting the environment to ensure conditions stay optimal.
Well it was (as far as we know) still an Xbox One running the feed on the screen. Not specifically using voice commands for that doesn't mean that the actual multitasking features of the console don't switch that fast.
Where does it say that the switching was faked? I thought just the voice commands.
InaudibleWhispa
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I thought I was high at the time. One of the most bizarre media announcements ever.
Beautiful.
Rogue_Ledr
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You know what is worse than the demos being faked? The friggin fake ass M$ love fest reactions to those fake demos by the paid M$ staff!
Syphon Filter
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wow so we don't even know if it works that well.
You mean like we see at every other press conference? Hardly excuses MS but simply everyone does it.
Well, it's speculation, it's possible that he had a clicker that just enabled his lapel microphone to connect to the XBone, since I wouldn't want to rely on an always on microphone in a conference with hundreds of screaming employees.
However, I also realize that the whole presentation was a bit of smoke and mirrors. For example, isn't it amazing that after the skype call, conveniently the 'live game" had just the basket play that he had on his fantasy league? Something would have to be tweaked to make a recording kick off the services that connect to the fantasy league system.... right?
JetBlackPanda
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um.. no shit
really people? check out the first kinect demos from E3 compared to what we got.
really people? check out the first kinect demos from E3 compared to what we got.
omg it read his mind
Gianni Merryman
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Just voice command?
Actually I assumed that all the Kinect stuff could be somehow staged, but either way the point was to show how the thing worked and they were good at that, so I would not argue about this issue.
Actually I assumed that all the Kinect stuff could be somehow staged, but either way the point was to show how the thing worked and they were good at that, so I would not argue about this issue.
plasticpassion
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That's not surprising. They wouldn't want it to fail during a live presentation
By the way, why does everyone put a disclaimer at the start of their thread? That always bugs me. If it's old, thread will be locked, and no shits will be given. No need to apologize. I can understand being hesitant as I've done it before, but have more confidence people!
By the way, why does everyone put a disclaimer at the start of their thread? That always bugs me. If it's old, thread will be locked, and no shits will be given. No need to apologize. I can understand being hesitant as I've done it before, but have more confidence people!
CambriaRising
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Heh. I was lambasted by people for calling bullshit on that. Now everyone is like "Well duh!"
Uno Venova
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Well then I guess it will take a while to see how well it works in real world conditions.
Reasonable.
Although I think the command formula is "XBOX : ACTION", which is still enough to discriminate the normal sentence and word connections.
Well the NBA game was kind of a tip off. The heat are not playing the clips in the playoffs, and are not playing at 10 am.
TangoAlphaLima
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First thought in my head was, of course, Star Wars Kinect gif. Second thought?
GoofsterStud
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Must fake things to make them look like they work....
Good sign.
Good sign.
Things are works in progress
Dash isn't finished yet, drivers aren't finished, gestures aren't finished
Stuff takes time to finish especially for really complicated OSes like Xbox
We know kinect worked decently in practice and already see some of the impressive new tech
Microsoft has never been a let down in terms of OS, despite the criticism of some choices
It's a long and difficult task making an OS
Dash isn't finished yet, drivers aren't finished, gestures aren't finished
Stuff takes time to finish especially for really complicated OSes like Xbox
We know kinect worked decently in practice and already see some of the impressive new tech
Microsoft has never been a let down in terms of OS, despite the criticism of some choices
It's a long and difficult task making an OS
Holly Caust
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Yeah windows makes great operating systems except when they don't but that's because of the haters
Midnight Phoenix
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Thats not shocking. Voice recognition is very complicated task.
SenjutsuSage
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Is that really all the evidence that is being presented to challenge that demonstration? Really? Nonsense, the demo was real.
How did he accomplish all of those functions by twiddling with a remote in his pocket that he couldn't even see? People are really grasping at straws now to find any and everything they can find to attack Microsoft.
This is like Obama had an ear piece on during one of the debates level of crazy.
How did he accomplish all of those functions by twiddling with a remote in his pocket that he couldn't even see? People are really grasping at straws now to find any and everything they can find to attack Microsoft.
This is like Obama had an ear piece on during one of the debates level of crazy.
la flama blanca
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Source?
I didn't put a gun to microsofts head and say reveal your product before the worlds largest gaming expo. Neither did Sony, or Nintendo. There is no need to DEBUT shitty nothingness when E3 is merely weeks away. If every single facet of your product and services, and direction of your device is all up in the air, I don't see it getting grounded a few days later.
flipswitch
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Yup, the giveaway was whenever he scratched his left testicle Kinect would respond...unless that's one of command gestures, and if so I'm sorry.
Honestly they probably thought the crowd noise would interfere.
Hmmmmm
The probably with "faking" it in the way the article claims is that it doesn't really give you a good performance metric for UI responsiveness. At the very least they could have used a proprietary Kinect that had a microphone input so they could have had people wearing unidirectional lapel microphones to deal with any ambient noise issues. Then, at least, you'd get a sense that, yes, this is how responsive the thing is when it can hear you without having to deal with the possibility that it's just acting up during the demo because of the ambient noise problems of the venue.
Now, though, we don't know even if the responsiveness was real or not.
Now, though, we don't know even if the responsiveness was real or not.
I wonder if people repeating this actually saw the show and not just the gif. It was a "dance routine" on the Cirque du Soleil event. It was never presented as a real time gameplay, because it was part of a demo reel during which several different Kinect games were shown on screen with dancer dancing in front of it.
BlastProcessing
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It's cool guys. They where being deceptive because building a console is hard.
Wishmaster92
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I knew someone would post this lol.
It's most likely true, and also doesn't really matter given the SS demonstration and the fact this would screw up WAY easier. If it actually bugs anyone they should probably think of this more of a demonstration of their goals than an actual practice of the technology (which they showed on site anyway as I recall.)