#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"
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I'd like to get Microsoft to turn around, but I think a lot of folks here are firmly in the Sony camp... which is perfectly fine. I think it's up to those with a vested interest to pick up the torch.
神谷英樹 Hideki Kamiya ‏@PG_kamiya 28s
こいつもさようなら RT @ChristianGrff: I support #PS4noDRM and #PS4USEDGAMES as well. Content on a disc and singlplayer games have to stay usable off
Anyone read japanese?
こいつもさようなら RT @ChristianGrff: I support #PS4noDRM and #PS4USEDGAMES as well. Content on a disc and singlplayer games have to stay usable off
Anyone read japanese?
Crimson_Gold
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Topple one and then move on to the next. That is my hope at least. Would need a nice groundswell of support though. I think seeing this succeed with Sony could garner the required support to get MS at least considering a change of plans.
Yeah, I mean, I never really use it except in instances like this. It's pretty easy to ignore after you're done with it.
I will dismantle the account after this.
Okay I'm in. How does one... tweet?
If Sony doesn't restrict used games, then MS would be under a ton of pressure to follow, giving a huge boost to the twitter movement on them. I hope at least some of you stick around to carry on after E3.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
PaulExcellent
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Woah, can I get the PS4 ribbon for my avatar? 
Check out the OP for some accounts or go to http://www.ps4nodrm.com for some easy hotlinks to quickly tweet. Since you have a fresh account, just space them out a bit, since you may get a temporary suspension since they think you're a bot.
been updated or I missed part of it to this:
神谷英樹 Hideki Kamiya ‏@PG_kamiya 5m
うぜーなー何度も何度もクソ馬鹿素粒子どもは RT @eTaizuke: I love all games and i want to continue playing them #PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES
神谷英樹 Hideki Kamiya ‏@PG_kamiya 5m
うぜーなー何度も何度もクソ馬鹿素粒子どもは RT @eTaizuke: I love all games and i want to continue playing them #PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES
I think some people here have given up on MS though. They seem to have a strict deal with publishers now and with that, I think their arrogance is just getting to them.
Even if Sony says "PS4 has no DRM" that's still essentially leaving it up to the developers unless Sony explicitly prohibits online DRM in their terms for licensing and developing software for the platform. Hell, a developer could probably have implemented online DRM on a PS2 title if they had wanted to do so and wanted to setup the server infrastructure themselves.
So there's no reason for Sony to come out at E3 and say "We're leaving it up to the publishers." That buys them nothing PR-wise, because a developer could still do it even if they say "we don't have it" and just build it into their game code. They should just come out and say "No DRM" on PS4, and then leave it to devs and publishers to be the easily boycottable bad guys that have to announce that they're going to use DRM in their titles or even on a game-by-game basis.
At this point I don't see how either one of them can fathom NOT addressing these issues in their actual press conferences. Therefore, MS will be going first. Heaven help them if they don't back down and then later in the day Sony announces no DRM.
So there's no reason for Sony to come out at E3 and say "We're leaving it up to the publishers." That buys them nothing PR-wise, because a developer could still do it even if they say "we don't have it" and just build it into their game code. They should just come out and say "No DRM" on PS4, and then leave it to devs and publishers to be the easily boycottable bad guys that have to announce that they're going to use DRM in their titles or even on a game-by-game basis.
At this point I don't see how either one of them can fathom NOT addressing these issues in their actual press conferences. Therefore, MS will be going first. Heaven help them if they don't back down and then later in the day Sony announces no DRM.
not sure if this has been asked or not; but what if the only way to have all your games installed on the hdd, and played without needing the disc is to have some sort of drm, wouldn't that be worth it?
i wish there's no drm on anything, but steam made me lazy. i love having access to a huge collection of games without a need to swap disc. it'll suck that xbone will have this option and perhaps ps4 won't.
i wish there's no drm on anything, but steam made me lazy. i love having access to a huge collection of games without a need to swap disc. it'll suck that xbone will have this option and perhaps ps4 won't.
I gladly will, but I think a lot of the momentum in this thread is created by responses by Sony. Microsoft will stay silent on the issue for the most part. Regardless, I'd like to be able to pick up an XBone at some point in the future, but that's only possible if they change their policies.
Just buy your games digitally on PSN or XBL then. There's no reason to subvert physical media for that convenience. To me, it's absolutely not worth it. I'm not a big fan of digital distribution.
he is getting spammed
- Again and again over a over ze's also fucking idiot particle audited
E3 will be filled with developers hating PS4fans...
we.are.the.armada
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Haha those Kamiya tweets! My Japanese is terrible so I won't even try to translate but I'm guessing he seems annoyed.
zomgbbqftw
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He want's people to stop spamming him about it.
PaulExcellent
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FalsettoVibe
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Can I have a ribbon on my sad baby face avatar? lol
wow ok
The movement has snowballed, unfortunately many people are just tweeting absentmindedly from their phones or whatever without thinking how the devs will react.
I don't blame him, considering that Twitter is his life. As soon as I saw his account listed in the OP, I internally groaned a little.
Krusenstern
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Knux-Future
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I;'d leave Kamiya alone guys.
i mean do you eat shit?
i mean do you eat shit?
zomgbbqftw
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We have a confirmed SCEE (Shahid Ahmad) sighting in the DRMforVita thread. 
everyday math
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That troll tweet. It hurts. D:
Cornbread78
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We have a confirmed SCEE (Shahid Ahmad) sighting in the DRMforVita thread.
Baller. PhD
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Valid.
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Development on his games will come to a halt due to him having to constantly respond to Twitter bombardment. Wonderful101 delayed.
Father_Brain
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Would be pretty amazing if Sony actually does choose consumers over what certain third parties want. Hopefully, we'll get some kind of definitive answer in less than two weeks.
sol_bad
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My tweet.
"To @Playstation, an open letter: ps4nodrm.com @philrosenberg @amboyes @yosp @nikoro
I discovered many great game franchises on the Playstation by borrowing from my friend. I learnt about Crash Bandicoot and have since bought all of Naughty Dogs games and have The Last of Us pre-ordered.
#PS4NoDRM #PS4UsedGames http://www.ps4nodrm.com/"
and
"Dear Publishers: ps4nodrm.com @erichirshberg @petermooreEA @EA @Kristian66 @Ubisoft
As a child I did most of my gaming by renting games at the video store, it's how I discovered my hobby, please let kids of the future do the same.
#PS4NoDRM #PS4UsedGames http://www.ps4nodrm.com/"
"To @Playstation, an open letter: ps4nodrm.com @philrosenberg @amboyes @yosp @nikoro
I discovered many great game franchises on the Playstation by borrowing from my friend. I learnt about Crash Bandicoot and have since bought all of Naughty Dogs games and have The Last of Us pre-ordered.
#PS4NoDRM #PS4UsedGames http://www.ps4nodrm.com/"
and
"Dear Publishers: ps4nodrm.com @erichirshberg @petermooreEA @EA @Kristian66 @Ubisoft
As a child I did most of my gaming by renting games at the video store, it's how I discovered my hobby, please let kids of the future do the same.
#PS4NoDRM #PS4UsedGames http://www.ps4nodrm.com/"
Honestly, Sony would be foolish not to capitalize on MS' blunder. If they can say, they listened to the fans, more power to them. It just makes MS that much more draconian and isolated.
Well, at least we know Sony has been listening.
If Kamiya didn't have a twitter account, W101 would have been a WiiU launch title
lol
Pristine_Condition
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If anything, if they reiterate the policies they have stated before, they should troll the Doritos Pope. Because really, this whole ball got rolling with him.
Hell, after all this, if this was the policy all along, Shuhei Yoshida should come out on stage at E3 dressed at a "white knight" and riding a horse, just to pay back Geoff.
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