He did. He said "we understand that some gamers are antisocial" with laughter.
Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"
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He did. He said "we understand that some gamers are antisocial" with laughter.
The official MS response is "Xbox One doesnt have to be always connected, but does require a connection to the Internet"
So yeah. That.
Yeah, one of the top guys at Sony said you can go old school with no internet connection whatsoever.
Acquiescence
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ComputerMKII
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Good.
IHaveCandy
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This is from the latest Game Informer
GI- Rumor claims that Microsoft's console will require an always-online Internet connection to play games. In previous interviews, you've stated that that's not the case with PS4. Did you ever consider an always-online connection for the PS4, and if so, why did you decide against it?
Yosp- Did we consider it? No, we didn't consider it. The main reason being that many countries don't have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust internet.
GI- So that wasn't even a consideration?
Yosp- Right. We didn't even consider that.
GI- Rumor claims that Microsoft's console will require an always-online Internet connection to play games. In previous interviews, you've stated that that's not the case with PS4. Did you ever consider an always-online connection for the PS4, and if so, why did you decide against it?
Yosp- Did we consider it? No, we didn't consider it. The main reason being that many countries don't have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust internet.
GI- So that wasn't even a consideration?
Yosp- Right. We didn't even consider that.
So long as Sony focuses more on augmenting the experience with online rather than out and out requiring it globally that's fine, we ARE at the point where I think games can be safely designed to require the internet, but at the same time we not only aren't at that point for a console but I really doubt it's even necessary unless it's literally a streaming box, and likewise I wouldn't want a game always online just because they CAN do it, but rather because their design is focused on that. Less Diablo III, more Destiny.
Glorified G
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Do you or anyone has a link to this? I've only read Yoshida saying it isn't 'always connected'.
Yeah but the difference was that there had been rumors and unconfirmed leaks about always online leading up to the reveal of xbox 1 , wheras for the ps4 we really haven't had anything to suggest so.
correct.
xboxone:not always online but requires an internet connection. pr bs
ps4:no internet required thus not connecting anywhere
Canis lupus
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Nothing suggest the console need to phone home every 24h.
Codeblew
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If that is the case, how could they prevent you from playing used games?
xbox1 requires an internet connection.
its on the official faq on the official xbox website.
its known everywhere:
"Microsoft's next console brings with it one very important requirement: An internet connection.
If you can't get online, or don't want to, the Xbox One becomes useless."
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/27/43...none-the-risks-of-an-internet-required-gaming
Wow. Clap clap.
TheDarkKnight774
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Soo it's the same as they've been saying for months? Good to know I guess.
Doesn't forgo some used game nonsense yet but it's a step up fr MS where if my Internet is out for a while I can still play the single player games I own.
Doesn't forgo some used game nonsense yet but it's a step up fr MS where if my Internet is out for a while I can still play the single player games I own.
SniperHunter
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That means it won't have the infinite power of the cloud. Xbox One will have better graphics at the end of the day.
Quadraphonic
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Companies WANT you online. You interact more, spend more time with the device and spend more money on it.
So they'll ENCOURAGE you to use it online, but won't require it and that's EXACTLY what he's saying.
By proxy, that means there's no used game DRM. It's impossible.
So they'll ENCOURAGE you to use it online, but won't require it and that's EXACTLY what he's saying.
By proxy, that means there's no used game DRM. It's impossible.
What Microsoft said pre-XBONE reveal:
"Durango [the codename for the next Xbox] is designed to deliver the future of entertainment while engineered to be tolerant of today's Internet." It continues, "There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game."
What Cerny said:
I don't know but the Microsoft's statement doesn't exactly read out like "Yeah your console is basically an ugly brick if you don't have access to the internet for 24h". Just like I wouldn't say Cerny's statement proves one thing or another. There are more than few simililarities with these statements.
Watch the idiots ignore this and continue to scream omg it's like the xbone. Though I'm not sure if that's a good thing to them since they are in support of shitty xbone policies lol.
IonicSnake
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Not sure how many times I have posted this now, it was already confirmed the day of the PS4 reveal that the PS4 doesn't require a internet connection at all.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
PlanetSmasher
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I think this needs to be reposted on every page. How much more clear can they get with it?
no not the same at all
i'm gonna admit, yes, i thought that was the point of the whole #nodrm 200 page thread, that we werent getting hard responses from sony reps on twitter
again im not sure why cerny would word his language to foreshadow a surreptitious change in stance to something which ms invented; in the 24 hour check-in, as cerny has now ruled out always online, i see no incentive to leave a semantic out, so that sony can move to 24 check-in
No.
They said this many times, either people are paranoid after MS introduced their own 24 hour "check up" or they actually want this to be true so that the PS4 looks as bad as the Xbone.
Yes the experience is richer if you take your console online, just like the PS3, Wii and 360 are all richer for it if you go online, but if you do not, they still function. PS4 is the same thing.
Not at all, make sure to separate what people are saying to what you personally want to be the case
Yes the experience is richer if you take your console online, just like the PS3, Wii and 360 are all richer for it if you go online, but if you do not, they still function. PS4 is the same thing.
Not at all, make sure to separate what people are saying to what you personally want to be the case
BobTheFork
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MS said the same thing and the XBone isn't 'always' connected.
You don't need a 'permenant connection'
You don't need a 'permenant connection'
90TilInfinity
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An answer that specific would require a question equally so.
That´s not an official statement.
And Sony has already confirmed that you don´t need an internet connection at all. Multiple times.
They confirmed the no internet is needed like 3 times what is more do they have to say really?
Really this is getting silly.
Robust as in stable? If so then I would see similiar always-connected than Microsoft not contradicting that statement.
CassidyIzABeast
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Is the 24 hour check in based on time played? If I play for 3 hours a day, that 24 hours is 8 days of not being connected in real world time.
Uh... no, they are saying that you don't ever have to be online with PS4 to play games, just that you'll miss out on optional features that require online.
You didn't hear it about Xbox one either... Until you did.
IonicSnake
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No, Microsoft said it doesn't have to be always online but it does require a Internet connection.
Sony have said the PS4 doesn't require a internet connection at all and can be played old school if you so desire.
Nobody knows anything about it yet.
Yeah "internal document". Only thing that ever leaked from XBONE was what they wanted. Controlled leaks=official statement. Maybe you can twist the truth little less in the latter but still.
It's been a confusing time since the Xbox One reveal, no doubt about that. The campaign started in response to Kneigly(sp) I think saying he heard PS4 would have a similar DRM set up, but of course as we can now see that seems unfounded.
And the great thing is the reason given is so wonderfully open and inclusive. Of course you wouldn't require an internet connection whatsoever, because there are other countries than the USA and they're not all up on reliable internet yet! Imagine that, policies dictated for a wide world!
Kazuma Kiryu
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but what if?
amazing.
Compare what Cerny said to what Microsoft said instead of just answering to something I did not say.
Technically the same could be said about the Xbox One (if MS sticks to the 24 hour requirement) since it isn't "always". On top of that the Xbox One doesn't need online in order to function (e.g.: watching blu-ray movies).
Want to believe this but at the same time it fits typical PR vagueness.
Guess we'll get a direct answer soon though.
Want to believe this but at the same time it fits typical PR vagueness.
Guess we'll get a direct answer soon though.