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[ERC198X]

sony got their head on straight this time around.

PS4: The defacto hardcore gaming console for nextgen.

 

[Llyrwenne]

In terms of gaming, yes. But it terms of the console as a whole? It doesn't depending on what you care about. That's the "twist".

Not just 'in terms of gaming'; "Q: Does Xbox One require an “always on” Internet connection?
A: No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet.". They clearly state 'Xbox One', and not 'the gaming functions of Xbox One'. You cannot access anything if you don't connect every 24 hours.

As I've said before a person CAN enjoy the Xbox One without being connected to the internet at all but it's within precise examples/situations (outside of gaming).

Please show me where they said connecting to the internet is only required for gaming, because I haven't seen any such quote from Microsoft.

This is how many companies make public statements -- Many tell the truth but it isn't the full truth. This in itself is why I choose to wait for more details. If you are different then that's fine but I don't get why I was criticized so heavily (haha). I don't see any of the big major gaming sites using this news as an "100% confirmation".

Nobody claims these statements give a 100% confirmation on no DRM. However, the statements do seem to give a clear indication on where PS4 is likely headed concerning DRM, which is something you seem happy to just entirely dismiss.

One wouldn't need a robust/fast internet connection for a simple "Is this person connected to the internet?" check up.

"More relief... At a roundtable this morning, Sony's game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that."

Sony won't require users to register games online at a hardware level. As such, I don't see them forcing internet checks on a hardware level, since that would essentially go directly against this statement.

"Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.""

He mentioned anti-social gamers in terms of not connecting to anyone else. You can still use online features while being anti-social at the same time.

That quote started with "Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally.". Don't pull it out of context.

The statement said "enjoyed old school" not "played old school". One could make the assumption that he's taking about playing games and that would be perfectly understandable but that's not what he directly said which is why I'm personally not going to use it as a "100% confirmation".

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all.". The emphasis is on 'Playstation 4' and 'without an internet connection at all'. As in; the entirety of the PS4 experience can be enjoyed without an internet connection at all.

 

[DR2K]

So will it have to be connected at all?

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

sony got their head on straight this time around.

PS4: The defacto hardcore gaming console for nextgen.

EXACTLY!

Definitely the go-to console for those who don't want M$ prying into everything they do.

 

[disastermouse]

Honest question: Does it bother you that Sony restricts features like streamlined software and firmware updates behind the PS+ paywall, when its a known frustration for general users? Or that they're the only of the first-party companies to use online passes for their titles and charge for online in used first-party titles?

I understand the criticisms of other companies, but acting as though one company can always be trusted and the other is always untrustworthy is silly, especially considering the current policies of the company you've chosen to assume the best about.

Who bought PS+ for that? I got it when I needed cloud saves because my fat PS3 got YLOD after my would-be-homeless, jobless friend and former roommate ran it 12 hours/day for a year. I needed to fry/freeze my PS3 to upload my saves to the cloud so I could get them on my new PS3 slim.

And then I discovered the free games!

 

[Gestault]

I don't understand this post. Since when were updates etc behind a pay wall or anything to do with PSN+? And yes I was and am vehemently against online passes, but luckily it was only limited to online modes.

From the sounds of it you're not a PS+ user (or just hadn't noticed, I'm not sure), but the improved update setup for firmware and game updates on PS3 has been limited to use by PS+ members. The setup for normal users is a little clunky, and this was exacerbated by the frequency of those updates for a pretty long period. If you go into your update options in the system menu, you'll be able to see how the option for background updates is blocked unless you have PS+.

It's a problem the system had, which was solved pretty well, but that solution is now held behind the monthly paywall.

 

[Harlock]

This PS4 thing higlight the hidden bad guys, the evil publishers. Almost all the bad press went to Microsoft, but the online drm screams EA/Ubisoft/Blizzard. Blizzard is the campion of this system, making the single player of Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 require an online connection.