Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"
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What's so different with "AT ALL" ?
Risk Breaker
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Which they already said they are not using on PS4, IIRC.
Uno Venova
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What old school gaming? The PS4 does not have BC with anything, they confirmed that at the press conference. There is a vague hope that Gaikai might able to provide those old school games, and that certainly would require a internet connection since that is how you would be playing those games, through the cloud.
They are being as clear as they possibly can
Clear as fucking day but still, xbox fans
its the microsoft effect
Hoho for breakfast
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From here:
Eurogamer: Does the console always need to be connected to the internet?
Shuhei Yoshida: You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.
Eurogamer: Are all of those things optional? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?
Shuhei Yoshida: Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.
Eurogamer: Does the console always need to be connected to the internet?
Shuhei Yoshida: You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.
Eurogamer: Are all of those things optional? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?
Shuhei Yoshida: Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.
H_Prestige
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Jesus christ...
Because they've said it already, they can't ALWAYS make sure in every fucking interview that they make it as clear as day. They've said "you don't need online at all" a bunch of times and now they say there are features that require online (sharing vids to friends, duh), but online is not something that is required to enjoy PS4. You're just looking for shit where there is none.
tactilecleaner
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If PS4 don't have any DRM, always connected or 24 hr check and XBOX ONE has, good for you guys. But you will miss a lot of games one that console bussiness is businesses.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Clear as fucking day but still, xbox fans
God damn... LOL
the Xbox fans are ignoring it with all heir might because to them Sony must. JUST MUST have to be online just so they can say , See sony is doing it too now its fair that both are shit .
it is quite sad to see realy .
You can appreciate why Sony might want to be a little vague while they weigh up options (good or bad), but the interviewers are all making it pretty easy for them by continuously using the 'always-online' terminology to form their question. It's a term that gives an awful lot of wiggle room for Sony to work around.
Clear as fucking day but still, xbox fans
MS could have said the same. "Always on connection" =/= "every 24 hours".
SolidSnakex
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Come on now. He says that it can be enjoyed old school without an internet connection and they're constantly pushing the console as a gaming machine. I don't think that there's anything vague about that.
In a way we're in the same situation than we were with Durango back then. We still don't know what kind of relationship PS4 will have with online. Will there be a price for online gaming? What will the level of DRM be? Do I have to be connected to internet once in a while to be able to access my software? We do not know these things. At least with MS (through vague statements and PR disasters but still) we know what their approach is. Not people may agree with it or they may not but in a way we know more of MS's plans than we know of Sony's.
You don't think there's more room to be more specific. Oh c'mon please use your imagination. How about saying: "Yeah it's just as good as it's on PS3 or even better (on consumer's perspective)" Or you know actually detailing their online plans? What Cerny said here doesn't tell us anything we haven't heard in one form or another.
I suspect majority of the people's console here will be connected online 24/7 and the PS4 will be designed to take advantage of it (background patch, dlc etc download) just like Xbone. The distinction is one of policy derived from principle/foresight of recalcitrant fan backlash. In either event Sony is playing the long game and shifting responsibility and options over to potential customers.
All they have to do now is come clean with their policy for DRM/used games (which unfortunately/fortunately will not affect me).
All they have to do now is come clean with their policy for DRM/used games (which unfortunately/fortunately will not affect me).
I forgot about this and the Denny quote.
I'll give Sony the benefit of the doubt for now.
Ooooo he said sometimes in an interview? Where exactly?
SniperHunter
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Clear as fucking day but still, xbox fans
this!
Umm, no.
Really funny how some keep on saying this as if it's impossible to see both companies the same way.
But hey... neogaf.gif.
I'd be OK with disc-based DRM if it meant digital titles were cheaper and we were allowed up to 3-5 machines to a disc like how game sharing worked early in the PS3 lifecycle. This way they could get some money back from Gamestop screwing them an allow users loan their games without much of a hassle. If we can't have NO DRM at all they it's better to have some kind of flexibility on the consumer side.
I'm not looking for shit but asking a general question calm down lol.
So it's safe to assume that enjoy it old school without a connection means exactly what it says. Cool.
Portugeezer
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Nah, it means PS4 can be enjoyed without an internet connection. Pretty fucking clear, I would have thought so anyway.
Seriously. This is the clearest shit ever at this point. Now I'm not saying Sony and their PR reps are not above lying (everybody lies at some point, even if they pretend they don't), but if they are not lying, then these statements could not BE more fucking clear. Completely unlike Microsoft this entire situation.
because xbox success is based entirely on sony's missteps they are desperately trying to find the next 599.
its going to be a great gen,that's all for now.
haha, tell it to your MS parole officer
before you play, you submit a breathalizer, and urine sample into a centrifuge disguised as a huge power supply
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
What part of "no internet connection at all" do people not understand.
At all = never ever.
LOL
At all = never ever.
LOL
The Xbone requires an Internet connection, period. So no idea where you're coming from.
It's incomprehensible that you fail to get this time and time again.
H_Prestige
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You mean you HAVE to be internet connected to enjoy the ps4's internet features? Fuck you Sony. Just like MS I see.
SolidSnakex
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Then there's this
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=60455921&postcount=161
Is that somehow vague as well?
BruiserBear
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It's gonna be a tough pill to swallow for some people when it finally settles in that the Xbox is the only console that requires online DRM checks.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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They've seen the backlash and yet they remain silent. Tells me all I need to know. Now it's just a question of how similarly they're going to implement their DRM policies. As a Steam user, DRM doesn't bother me in the least. Just tell me what I'm dealing with before I make a buying decision is all I ask.
Maybe always online is a new industry standard and gamers will have to learn to live with it? Sony's plan was to generate as much good spirit regarding PS4 as possible in February and they seem to have succeeded. Now when June 10 comes I hope a flood of bad news doesn't turn this around.
It's also funny how people think that you can't be a sceptic and not to be a MS fan at the same time. Sony is the true Saviour of gaming industry am I right? Hah.
It's also funny how people think that you can't be a sceptic and not to be a MS fan at the same time. Sony is the true Saviour of gaming industry am I right? Hah.
Uno Venova
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This is getting sad.
SlowRevolution
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ouya would never do this to us
AgentP
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Looking at the various Sony responses to questions, I don't see any wiggle room. They say again and again you can be totally offline and you don't need an Internet connection to use the PS4. How is that the same as MS? False equivalency FTW?
etc, etc.
etc, etc.
a duh SolidSnakex, what this means if they can shut their PS4 off completely and stop being connected to the internet to go the "anti-social route". Not that you can play PS4 games offline! See how sneaky they are!
Sendou said:
And thus the projecting begins
P.S. Is Sony is telling the truth in this topic with all the quotes and Microsoft remains with their once-always-24h check, then yes Sony is the saviour of the gaming industry. Deal.with.it.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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:lol You guys are reaching like Dhalsim. PS4 needing the Internet was never even rumored.
IonicSnake
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From the Xbox One faq.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
What Michael Denny said in the PSM interview.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
Still think both statements are pretty much the same?
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
What Michael Denny said in the PSM interview.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
Still think both statements are pretty much the same?
IHaveCandy
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What does it tell you? And they haven't exactly been quiet. They've been tweeting back saying they appreciate the passion and are listening and have even made joke tweets about DRM. They aren't going to suddenly announce things on Twitter. If they make changes, the will announce them on a real platform.
Yes, but again what does he mean by "old school"? Couldn't old school simply mean "without internet"? The PS4 will do more than just play games.
I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR by making vague statements (due to previous examples I know of, classes I took when I was in college, as well as just my overall interest in that area).
These statements are just pretty vague to me. Unlike fanboys (on either side) though, I'm not going to say that me feeling that way 100% confirms that Sony will give in.
As I've said many times before I'm looking forward to hearing more details.
That hasn't been confirmed. It was said once then said afterwards that they still haven't established what you are going to do.