Hot Coldman
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But "Britta" already fills that role!
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But "Britta" already fills that role!
CrocMother
Banned
I think Roose Bolton has aims to become teetolatarian dictactor of Westeros
How is anyone on Westeros going to trust it ever again? Walder sullied something that should have been untouchable.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Man.
That would've been awesome if everyone hadn't made it extremely obvious that big characters were going to die and I hadn't had this picture pop up on my Facebook feed.
Thanks everyone.
That would've been awesome if everyone hadn't made it extremely obvious that big characters were going to die and I hadn't had this picture pop up on my Facebook feed.
Thanks everyone.
yeah, that's the theory I came up with after episode 8. Song of Ice and Fire: Fire = LoL, Ice = White Walkers god/Old Gods. Summer and Winter, Light and Darkness. Sounds pretty convincing to me
Reactions of people to Episode 9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78juOpTM3tE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Best one is at 2:27 (and at 3:14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78juOpTM3tE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Best one is at 2:27 (and at 3:14)
Either way, if you play the Game, you Win or you Die!!
Tywin and Bolton are more fit into playing it
There have to be some people within his family that aren't okay with stabbing a pregnant lady in the stomach, or killing Robb/Catelyn Stark right? The Stark family was beloved in the North, there has to be some Northerners, even within Bolton or Frey's bannerman that are pissed about what happened, especially since it breaks the guest oath.
neoism
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Why does people keep saying this.. They are fucking DRAGON not Hodor or some wolfs... I highly doubt humans can control a dragons mind... riding them is on thing but controlling their minds no just no.
The Last Emperor
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You probably need to become a better show watcher then
Napoleonthechimp
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After the gods bitch slap them (and everyone involved) into oblivion then everyone will probably take notice. In a world full of magical assassin slugs and shadow demon thingys you just know it's going to happen.
I like that theory because it makes the world somewhat more 'balanced'.
So far I thought John Snow = Ice and Dany = Fire (so they'd either end up together or at war).
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I am sure there are, but they can say that they were ending a rebellion and stabbing traitors.
hahahh what a little bitch. can't show dogs die on screen? hahahh oh man. but hundreds of regular men and women brutally dying is okay, right? can't show a pregnant woman being stabbed in the stomach.... but killing all the bastards at kings landing is perfectly fine, especially that one baby that didn't want to stop crying.
the North lies in ruins, Winterfell was burned down (likely the Bolton's work), the Ironborn are raiding the coastal villages and the most influential of the Stark bannerman have either revoked their support and withdrawn their troops or turned hostile (the Boltons, again). There's no unifying power left
Maddocks
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it probably has something to do with the mother of dragons doing it. Not doing it like full on white eyes, but she seems to be able to tell them what to do and who to attack almost like its a minds are synched type of thing.
so if someone can tell them what to do without saying a word, maybe bran can actually lock into it because after all they are just animals like wolves....and hodor lol
darkazcura
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Lol, insults. Cool, man. Really productive. Does that mean everyone has to become a better show watcher? There's a reason everyone loses their shit when a Stark dies or gets hurt and wishes for Joffrey and Cersei to go jump off a cliff. It's because there is a clear line between good and bad. If that's not the intention of the writer and EVERYONE is supposed to be viewed as neutral, then yes, something is wrong with the writing.
Please tell me what's so gray about the Starks in general. What's so evil about Ned, Robb, Bran, Arya, and Jon?
What's so good about Joffrey, Cersei, and Tywin (other than the dialogue for him being awesome)?
I said there are gray characters but there is a clear divide between good and bad in this show when it comes to the major houses. If that's not the creators intention then perhaps it's not good writing.
Jamie, Varys, and Littlefinger are very clear examples of neutral/gray characters. That much I can see and agree with.
But is that enough to justify this massacre? Which, mind you, took place while they should have been under the sacred protection of their host.
Despite the fact that they're traitors etc. I think most of those banner-men and even some non-Northerners would have like to see another end for Rob Stark and his army.
Chie Satonaka
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The next episode is going to be interesting.
I assume that this changes the political landscape of Westeros. Considering that you can't trust other houses now, what does that mean?
I think Arya is going to be able to deal with this, but Sansa might lose her shit.
It needs to be Sunday.
BigJonsson
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Westeros needs jack bauer
Liquidsnake
Banned
Sansa seems to be robbed of her feelings already, I think she is slowly becoming hardened by her life.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Fuck that, Westeros needs the Avengers.
Hot Coldman
Banned
"Give me 3 names, and 24 hours."
Well it's not that other houses weren't paranoid about each other before, but that thing with the bread and salt is on another level, man. It's not just an oath like Robb's to Frey's daughter, it's a ceremony and Frey just took a steaming hypocritical dump on it.
BobTheFork
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If he does then if party time until Joffery finally dies.
Although I wonder what effect that had if any. Rob pretty much had to go back to the Twins anyways for his War.
Regardless, people will know what Frey did and how they died. Motherfucker better not ever step in the North again.
So my wife wanted to watch the episode everyone is freaking about just watched for the second time, I'd have to say it's easier this time and I looked for details more than before. Still horrible especially the Talisa part gees man brutal. The one part that was almost lol was when Cat screams after Robb gets shanked. I was waiting for her to get cut and waiting....waiting..... oh here comes the guy and does it. Like oh hey we forgot let me get that for you.
Admiral Bone to Pick
Banned
How is Cersei clearly evil and Littlefinger grey?
both are clearly Neutral Evil
Chie Satonaka
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The hero Westeros both needs and deserves.
God, I loved this guy. Such a cool character.
Some wolfs... get out of here. Direwolf >>>> flying rats.
shit, as far as Sansa knows, her whole family is dead.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What about this?
It has double meaning since my father hasn't been in my life for 27 years.
Looks like it says "Johnson Ow!"
You just revealed the premise of my crossover fanfiction, wherein the Stark children are taken in by Tony Stark and trained in Avengers mansion. They all get Iron Man suits and Arya uses the Cosmic Cube to bring back Ned and the others and they get armors too. Then Thor let's Ned borrow Mjolnir before everyone heads back to the other and takes over, raining fire on everyone from the Helicarrier. It's gonna be awesome and wayyyy better than the stinky old books.
Somewhere out there, this story is actually being written. I'd bet money.
kame-sennin
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Yea, this episode really clarifies something for me; Game of Thrones is terribly written. It has a few undeniable strengths, mainly character building amd world building, but that doesn't make up for its overwhelming flaws. I wasn't too upset by the red wedding. It was shocking, but heavily foreshadowed. But what it reveals about the show is its terrible structure, which you alluded to in your post. The structure of game of thrones is essentially:
Exposition, exposition, exposition, exposition, exposition, tragic twist, repeat.
That's not how you tell a story. A story should have a character pursuing a goal until they achieve, or fail to achieve, said goal. It's the pursuit of a goal that progresses the plot. Ned Stark trying to solve John Aryn's murder is plot progression. Tyrion trying to feret out Cerci's spy in the small council is plot progession*. Rob Stark telling his wife that he might want to attack Casterly Rock at some point in the future is NOT plot progression. Rob Stark having the exact same conversation with his mother is also not plot progression, it's exposition - two characters sitting in a scene dumping information on the audience. The are far too many scenes, even episodes, in this series that are nothing but exposition. A skilled writer can move the plot forward and deliver information in the same scene, but this rarely happens in Game of Thrones.
*Apologists, please note that I did not use any action sequences as examples of proper plot progression. The ad homonym dismissal of critics as simpletons looking for more action is, and has always been, baseless.
Ok I just finisehd watching it and that was seriously fucked. I was so attached to the starks and actually feel genuine grief. I fucking love this show. I have'nt watched a tv show that could elicit such emotion in a long time. Can't wait to see where they go from here. I feel really bad for aria now too.
darkazcura
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Littlefinger is chaotic and seemingly will do anything to get what he wants, but his true endgame is still unknown. I'm interested to see how he would actually treat people when/if he reaches his end goal. He probably is more evil/evil leaning, but I was just trying to think of other major neutral characters. He came to mind, but I could be wrong.
Cersei hasn't been particularly bad the last two seasons, but she is a major reason why the kingdoms went to complete shit in season 1 (for completely selfish reasons). After writing my thoughts down a bit more, I realize the Lannisters are a lot more neutral than I gave them credit for other than Joffrey. The Starks are definitely good and have been portrayed as such. That was my main point anyway. I just don't get how people can say EVERY character should be viewed as neutral. The Starks, in general, completely shoot that idea in the face, IMO.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Yes please. I need him now.
Matt_
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I don't understand
How did Jon not recognise the wolves/stay around for a bit
I swear all the wildling were killed but Yggritte and the leader dude
+ what kind of dull sacking of a city was that? I know a couple of people a few pages back thought Grey Worm's fighting was cool but to me it just looked weird
AND WHO STABS A PREGNANT WOMAN GODDAMN
what is wrong with people
Things have been on the up too much for the Lannisters, they best get their comeuppance next episode
Things have been going too well for Dany too, but I like her so it doesn't matter.
Also, I swear I've only heard two words come out of Rickon's mouth before this episode. Creeped me out for some reason
How did Jon not recognise the wolves/stay around for a bit
I swear all the wildling were killed but Yggritte and the leader dude
+ what kind of dull sacking of a city was that? I know a couple of people a few pages back thought Grey Worm's fighting was cool but to me it just looked weird
AND WHO STABS A PREGNANT WOMAN GODDAMN
what is wrong with people
Things have been on the up too much for the Lannisters, they best get their comeuppance next episode
Things have been going too well for Dany too, but I like her so it doesn't matter.
Also, I swear I've only heard two words come out of Rickon's mouth before this episode. Creeped me out for some reason
Frey's army is pretty big, isn't it? Robb winning the war depended on having the Freys support.
The stealth kills can only go so far, but even when they lose the surprise factor, they still have the advantage since Robb's army would be completely disorganized by that point.
Holy shit. lmaooooo
neoism
Member
I wonder since Stannis named Joffrey's wrong name he will get a free pass.... Joffrey Lannister is his name.
:/ I want Arya to kill JoffreyWell, Jamie did lose his hand, and Tyrion and Cersei were put into shit marriages. Not the same thing, but still.
RoninChaos
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This is from that article.
Is that true? I was really taken aback by the brutality of it all, and... ugh. Were the writers like "Let's make this even MORE fucked up!"? That stabbing takes it too far, I think. Maybe I'm too old for this shit. Adhering to the source material is one thing but ... ugh.
They Freys are a sizable contingent, and obviously the Boltons have betrayed as well. The Preview for Episode 10 shows
what appears to be the war camp on fire
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