#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"
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darylbaxter
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Always happy to contribute to a very worthy cause.
Hopefully come Sony's event next week all of this will have been for something.
Hopefully come Sony's event next week all of this will have been for something.
Microsft is doing their thing again:
Guess that means MS PR doesn't feel able to get all their ducks in a row. I have to say I'm not surprised after the Xboned reveal fiasco.
maquiladora
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Microsft is doing their thing again:
I think they are doing this to avoid having to talk about drm/online/other potential negative things to avoid giving Sony the advantage of knowing Microsofts public position before they have to talk later.
10101
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IIRC he said before E3.
SkullHydra
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Twenty plus tweets have been sent already, I'll send more later.
Regardless of how this works out, I'm proud of this community for what it's done.
Regardless of how this works out, I'm proud of this community for what it's done.
Although if there's still DRM on the PS4, Mortimer will burn for getting my hopes up.
Don't worry about the numbers. This is just the start of the ball on top of the snowy hill; it will grow as word gets out, so spread the message! Keep tweeting and sending the Phase II flyers. The 2100 spike was a whole bunch of people waiting to pounce on the start time; I'm sure they had other things to attend to afterward.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Fuck, I knew I forgot to do something
xenoflux2113
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I have tweeted and retweeted since I got to work today. I'll send more out later. I have even tried to tweet "influential" people I follow in hopes that they can help spread the word as well.
Ok, the article is up on my site, I really hope not to get in trouble by posting the link here but I don't know who to PM it to.
http://engineeringlikesdesign.com/2013/06/05/85/
http://engineeringlikesdesign.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/85/
Thank God this is being done.
It worked to stop the paid DLC when it was first announced.
It worked to stop the waggle adoption movement.
It worked to stop the Online Pass movement.
It worked to make Sim City go from online to offline.
It....wait a minute.....ah shucks.
Oh well.
It worked to stop the paid DLC when it was first announced.
It worked to stop the waggle adoption movement.
It worked to stop the Online Pass movement.
It worked to make Sim City go from online to offline.
It....wait a minute.....ah shucks.
Oh well.
hydrophilic attack
Member
None of the things you mentioned garnered as much backlash as this issue.
None of them garnered attention from mainstream media of the likes of CNN.
This one is different.
I didnt know we had a large twitter campaign against those things you mentioned. Can you link me to the threads?
It worked for Uncharted 3 - some fans were invited to the studio for feedback on the controls
It worked for Cardiff City football club fans - fans were unhappy with new jersey, they now get to vote to chose the new design
What does doing nothing achieve ?
10101
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Baller. PhD
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I guess we just roll over and take it then, that's the more noble thing.
MS cancelling pre show and after show QA.....
This movement coupled with the bad PR after the Xbone reveal has made them really nervous about this situation. I'm almost certain the "DRM, always on, kinect" deal is not something that's going to be favourable to us now and they want to steer way clear of it till the heat dies down. My guess is MS did listen to our cause BUT they can't back out now and don't want anymore bad PR, they're prob a lost cause..
But I'll still keep tweeting #XBOXONENoDRM if only to keep hopes alive.
This movement coupled with the bad PR after the Xbone reveal has made them really nervous about this situation. I'm almost certain the "DRM, always on, kinect" deal is not something that's going to be favourable to us now and they want to steer way clear of it till the heat dies down. My guess is MS did listen to our cause BUT they can't back out now and don't want anymore bad PR, they're prob a lost cause..
But I'll still keep tweeting #XBOXONENoDRM if only to keep hopes alive.
Thank god you're here to shed these words of wisdom upon us. What would we do without you? No really, you're not the first person to say 'it's not going to work!' and you won't be the last. Now get out. Nothing you say is going to stop us.
famousmortimer
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Crimson_Gold
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I got some more tweets off to some Sony people and have seen others retweeting them. Let's keep this going everyone.
Proud to have been a part of this
Proud to have been a part of this
Miles Quaritch
Member
Did my part, hope we get some good news come E3, although with MS deciding to move to one on one interviews, it seems they might not be so willing to change course at this point. A damn shame, but there's not much that can be done. Let's just hope it works out for the best.
Speaking of, I was talking to a mate this morning and he suggested perhaps emailing Watchdog (UK consumer rights show)...any interest?
Thought I'd throw his suggestion out there.
Speaking of, I was talking to a mate this morning and he suggested perhaps emailing Watchdog (UK consumer rights show)...any interest?
Thought I'd throw his suggestion out there.
I say go for it, it can't hurt. We should contact anyone and everyone who can help spread the word.
There's still hope for MS, them cancelling the Q&A could mean they don't have anything finalized - good news for us, tepid though it may be.
10101
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Not a bad idea, they are normally all over shit like this. I vaguely remember them doing a piece on the Dreamcast back in '99 - I think it launched with Internet access issues or something like that they didn't inform users of.
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74/contact
In case anyone wants to report it
famousmortimer
Banned
I think this is coming along nicely and we shouldn't get too worried about the numbers because, as I mentioned on my podcast... and as much as it pains me to say it... critics like Total Biscuit are right. The hashtag itself isn't going to do anything.
But what he is missing and what i think has made this insanely successful is that our initial push happened naturally and wasn't about the hashtag... it was about gamers talking directly to execs and explaining, politely, why they don't think DRM is a good idea. It was immediate and it was personal. I think that helped much more than saying "we had 20k hashtags" or whatever.
The other end of it is that the posts did gain quite a bit of media attention. And by quite a bit I mean HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW MUCH MEDIA ATTENTION WE GOT!?!? The media attention is what is most likely to change Sony or MS's mind - for better or worse. We succeeded magnificently at that. And thank you very much to any journos who may be watching this thread.
And this, today, is just a reminder. A personal reminder with personal messages to actual human beings that we still know what we want and why we want it. If the decision wasn't made up a couple weeks ago it almost certainly is by now, but it didn't hurt to give this another push.
I'm not typing this as acceptance of defeat today. The numbers today are exactly where I thought they would be... much, much higher than the last 5 or so days but a bit lower than the peaks of day one. Looking at the stream right now it looks like we are pushing about 3 tweets a minute. Sections of the US are at lunch, a lot of europe is traveling home or eating dinner. There's lulls. But even if there wasn't ever another #PS4NoDRM tweet again I think we more than accomplished our goals. The ball is in MS and Sony's court and they can't claim ignorance to what their fans want.
But we aren't yet finished with today. We had a strong morning but lets get one more big push over the next few hours.
But what he is missing and what i think has made this insanely successful is that our initial push happened naturally and wasn't about the hashtag... it was about gamers talking directly to execs and explaining, politely, why they don't think DRM is a good idea. It was immediate and it was personal. I think that helped much more than saying "we had 20k hashtags" or whatever.
The other end of it is that the posts did gain quite a bit of media attention. And by quite a bit I mean HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW MUCH MEDIA ATTENTION WE GOT!?!? The media attention is what is most likely to change Sony or MS's mind - for better or worse. We succeeded magnificently at that. And thank you very much to any journos who may be watching this thread.
And this, today, is just a reminder. A personal reminder with personal messages to actual human beings that we still know what we want and why we want it. If the decision wasn't made up a couple weeks ago it almost certainly is by now, but it didn't hurt to give this another push.
I'm not typing this as acceptance of defeat today. The numbers today are exactly where I thought they would be... much, much higher than the last 5 or so days but a bit lower than the peaks of day one. Looking at the stream right now it looks like we are pushing about 3 tweets a minute. Sections of the US are at lunch, a lot of europe is traveling home or eating dinner. There's lulls. But even if there wasn't ever another #PS4NoDRM tweet again I think we more than accomplished our goals. The ball is in MS and Sony's court and they can't claim ignorance to what their fans want.
But we aren't yet finished with today. We had a strong morning but lets get one more big push over the next few hours.
Miles Quaritch
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I really do hope so. They've apparently cancelled both the pre show chats and post show chats, so I'm more than a little concerned about what this means about their anti sued DRM garbage.
Not a bad idea, they are normally all over shit like this. I vaguely remember them doing a piece on the Dreamcast back in '99 - I think it launched with Internet access issues or something like that they didn't inform users of.
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74/contact
In case anyone wants to report it
I'm wondering, would they take up the cause considering there's no actual product for sale yet. I think it's a good idea, but I'm not sure if emailing now would have the same effect as emailing them when the product is on shelves and a lot of people are complaining about the same issues.
If anyone wants to do it, please post heer and we'll arrange some sort of mass email to them. That should show there's serious concern about MS' anti consumer practices.
I think this is coming along nicely and we shouldn't get too worried about the numbers because, as I mentioned on my podcast... and as much as it pains me to say it... critics like Total Biscuit are right. The hashtag itself isn't going to do anything.
But what he is missing and what i think has made this insanely successful is that our initial push happened naturally and wasn't about the hashtag... it was about gamers talking directly to execs and explaining, politely, why they don't think DRM is a good idea. It was immediate and it was personal. I think that helped much more than saying "we had 20k hashtags" or whatever.
The other end of it is that the posts did gain quite a bit of media attention. And by quite a bit I mean HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW MUCH MEDIA ATTENTION WE GOT!?!? The media attention is what is most likely to change Sony or MS's mind - for better or worse. We succeeded magnificently at that. And thank you very much to any journos who may be watching this thread.
And this, today, is just a reminder. A personal reminder with personal messages to actual human beings that we still know what we want and why we want it. If the decision wasn't made up a couple weeks ago it almost certainly is by now, but it didn't hurt to give this another push.
I'm not typing this as acceptance of defeat today. The numbers today are exactly where I thought they would be... much, much higher than the last 5 or so days but a bit lower than the peaks of day one. Looking at the stream right now it looks like we are pushing about 3 tweets a minute. Sections of the US are at lunch, a lot of europe is traveling home or eating dinner. There's lulls. But even if there wasn't ever another #PS4NoDRM tweet again I think we more than accomplished our goals. The ball is in MS and Sony's court and they can't claim ignorance to what their fans want.
But we aren't yet finished with today. We had a strong morning but lets get one more big push over the next few hours.
I will keeo tweeting. Also, I posted a link to the article I wrote on my website on a previous post, go ahead and add it to the media coverage if you want.
10101
Gold Member
Good point. They normally only deal with things people have bought, probably best not to bother right now.
quickfire13
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I am joining the force once again, wasn't here earlier because I just got out of work! :O
Samir Sedlar
Member
Seven Tweets from me, I hope this comes with fruition.
No matter the outcome, I am glad I was part of this.
No matter the outcome, I am glad I was part of this.
Baller. PhD
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Wow, fuck this guy!
He's Activision's goddamn community manager. WTF is the point of his job if not to act as the liaison between the parent corporation and the end consumer?
He's Activision's goddamn community manager. WTF is the point of his job if not to act as the liaison between the parent corporation and the end consumer?
Wow, fuck this guy!
He's Activision's goddamn community manager. WTF is the point of his job if not to act as the liaison between the parent corporation and the end consumer?
That is pretty crappy - I've seen a few responses from him like that with other people. He's not very good at community relations :/
Sent another tweet. More than anything, I'm glad that we're making sure that we're heard loud and clear for this issue. Seeing the coverage this has gotten in the media has been great, and I really think we've given Microsoft and Sony a clear message. I hope they take it on board!
Wow, fuck this guy!
He's Activision's goddamn community manager. WTF is the point of his job if not to act as the liaison between the parent corporation and the end consumer?
But that means he has to do MORE stuff than just Tweet about COD.
Actually, I don't follow the guy so I don't know if he only tweets about COD
Krusenstern
Banned
I'm asking that myself about every community manager out there. Isn't that exactly their jobs?
famousmortimer
Banned
Tweets per minute are picking up again 
I followed him for a while, he pretty much did only tweet about CoD. Crap response for a supposed community manager though, awful.
Tweets per minute are picking up again
That's cause I finished my dinner xD
10101
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ExcellentTweets per minute are picking up again
I've been tweeting every 10 mins or so since about 5pm BST. Also retweeting others in between my main tweets - I've tripled my tweet count already today hahahaIdiotMyshkin
Banned
I'm doing my part.
Haha, release the hounds
Haha, release the hounds
IdiotMyshkin
Banned
You're doing awesome btw Kane
Im just doing my part like everyone else here
Well you're killin' it in there hah
! Keep it coming!Great job everyone else as well!
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