1. He types out Forza Motorsports 5. TWICE.
2. Doesn't call it an Xbone
Case closed.
Microsoft: Xbox One DRM has a "lot of advantages"
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1. He types out Forza Motorsports 5. TWICE.
2. Doesn't call it an Xbone
Case closed.
methane47
Gold Member
AFAIK its the opposite Sony has specifically stated the goal to play games while downloading. While MS hasn't really commented on it, besides rumors of the functionality.
Why not? I can be offline for a 6 month deployment with STEAM, and I never needed a disc to get that loaded up.
Green Yoshi
Member
One advantage is that you can access all your content even when your house is destroyed.
Just buy a new Xbox One and you can download all your games.
And perhaps you can buy cheap game codes like for Steam on the internet. If you just need the code and no discs, there will be no physical production costs for Microsoft.
Just buy a new Xbox One and you can download all your games.
And perhaps you can buy cheap game codes like for Steam on the internet. If you just need the code and no discs, there will be no physical production costs for Microsoft.
Not needing to switch discs or ferry around disc collections when playing on Xbox Ones far apart is pretty advantageous.
iamaustrian
Member
You also couldn't trade in your Steam games. Which is apparently important.
XxHANNERxX
Banned
I love seeing all the hate people are spewing.... over nothing at this point. WE. KNOW. NOTHING about their exact plans. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. It is all supposition and guesses. Once we know, if it still offends you, by all means bitch away. Until then, can people please calm down? Their are not trying to murder your family, I promise. lol
Puppet Shadow
Member
Like Steam, you can pop onto anyone's XBox One, log in and download then play your games.
Edit: Damn, didn't notice this was on page 3 already. Sorry if this already came up.
anexanhume
Member
offline != one-time online check
You have to do at least a 1 time check with Steam to (to either buy the game, or register your retail key and download the game). For all we know, this is MS' plan.
methane47
Gold Member
How long does it take between popping onto someone's Computer and playing a Steam game from your library?
XxHANNERxX
Banned
I think that all sounds reasonable to me. Even if he is being sarcastic, I like it.
gamemadmax
Member
Just make it clear once and for all
AranhaHunter
Banned
MS PR:
"I'll do you better, I'll name THREE. We, MS, make more money and therefore make better games for you to enjoy, more stable and smooth OS where you can seamlessly transition from TV to game, and are able to utilize that money to utilize the power of da cloud to bring you new experiences you never thought was possible"
LOL creepy Dennis is the best Dennis.
God yeah, those fucking heavy, bulky discs. God forbid I have to pick up that 5 oz case and put it in my car and then take it from the car to my friend's door and then attempt to get the disc out of the case and place it in the tray.
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY!!!!!!
No, it's far, far better to sign into my friend's console and download 10 GB+ instead. That'll only take 22 hours+ on a 10 Mb connection. Far more convenient!
None of that needs this DRM.
Stone Ocean
Member
The safety of the DRM is the same of a digital copy. If your account blows up you lost the game just the same.
Paging the bish.
Warm Machine
Member
First advantage I can see is having an immediately playable game library on your console even though they were sourced from discs to start with. You can't do this on 360.
The second is that Live will know you have bought and registered the games so if you ever lose the disc you can always re-download it as a digital copy. You can't do this on 360.
I personally can't think of a system that allows you to install a retail disc to a game library and not need the disc for authentication. They are kind of stuck.
That said I hope that any purely digital purchases are not tied to the 24 hour thing and I hope it is all treated the in the exact same manner that 360 digital purchases are right now.
The second is that Live will know you have bought and registered the games so if you ever lose the disc you can always re-download it as a digital copy. You can't do this on 360.
I personally can't think of a system that allows you to install a retail disc to a game library and not need the disc for authentication. They are kind of stuck.
That said I hope that any purely digital purchases are not tied to the 24 hour thing and I hope it is all treated the in the exact same manner that 360 digital purchases are right now.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
To me this is how I've purchased games.
When I buy digital I know that I am locked into this purchase, and accept it. That is the reason why I don't buy many games digital. Those that I do buy digital I anticipate I will thoroughly enjoy and won't mind owing forever.
When I buy a game on disc, I understand that I am not stuck with this game. If I don't like it, or grow bored of it relatively quickly, I can throw it on CL and sell it to someone else.
Funny thing is, one of my favorite franchises of this gen, the Uncharted Series, only piqued my interest after I bought the first one off of CL. I buy 1 game used, fall in love with the series, and I am now buying 3 games brand new from them.
When I buy digital I know that I am locked into this purchase, and accept it. That is the reason why I don't buy many games digital. Those that I do buy digital I anticipate I will thoroughly enjoy and won't mind owing forever.
When I buy a game on disc, I understand that I am not stuck with this game. If I don't like it, or grow bored of it relatively quickly, I can throw it on CL and sell it to someone else.
Funny thing is, one of my favorite franchises of this gen, the Uncharted Series, only piqued my interest after I bought the first one off of CL. I buy 1 game used, fall in love with the series, and I am now buying 3 games brand new from them.
Stone Ocean
Member
No, for all we know we have to do an online check once a day every day.
Hey. I don't use Xbone either. Because I'm lazy (X1) and because it looks stupid. Doesn't mean I'm a plant. That dude though? Yeah, if he's serious he's a plant and a bad one at that.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Depends on the size of the game and your internet speed. When my desktop was getting upgraded, I used my wife's and it took about 2 hours to download Skyrim.
Syphon Filter
Member
XxHANNERxX
Banned
One of the rumors is that you will be able to play while installing from the disk or downloading the game. If that is true, may not be though I think if Sony is doing most likely MS is too, then on the XB1 it will be within a few minutes.
BlazingDarkness
Member
That's not a benefit.
should have been first post :/
XxHANNERxX
Banned
Why does he have to be a plant? he could just be a guy in the perfect situation for this console, and none of the rumored stuff everyone is bitching about bothers him. And he likes his money going to the creators of the content he enjoys and not some middleman who does nothing but give crap amounts of credit and sells it used for massive margins.
methane47
Gold Member
So theoretically you would have to have awkward conversation with your friend for 2hrs before you even START the game. Yes. so much more convenient then having the game on hand.
OR...
You take the disc with you, which makes the Original "Benefit" of this DRM ridiculous.
And keep in mind that we're going to be seeing much bigger download sizes this gen, unless they're able to compress the files, decompress on the fly, and play while this is going on. I think Sony should be able to do the above, because I remember a special chip that they included just for compression and decompression.
lol 1st post. exactly what was going thru my mind.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I'm making a habit of saying Forza Motorsports 5 because Forza isn't the correct term, and It bothers me to hear people just say "Forza". If I was discussing Forza Horizon though, I'd just say Forza.
I don't call it Xbone because I don't really get that term either. Xb+one=Xbone, I get it, but I don't get why people like the term so much. I'm also saying "Xbox One" in an attempt to break my habit of saying "Xbox", and "Xbox Infinity" and "Durango" because I went so long calling it under that name. Starting to get used to Xbox One.
Meh.
I exaggerated a bit when I said "luggage", but my point remains. It obviously doesn't require much effort to bring a game, but just being able to bring your account is SOOOOO much more efficient. There will also be some cases when it is more useful then a disc, but those are more "what if" moments and are silly to use in an argument.
Also... I know this only applies to me, and a few more cities, and I'm really the minority, so to use this as a defense is REALLY lame of me... but where I live... we're getting Google Fiber soon. That's another reason I will personally embrace the Xbox One. My Internet will be fast and reliable, and me downloading Forza Motorsports 5 or Banjo-Threeie (Rare please) would take a few minutes with my Gigabit Speeds. I know this isn't the case for everyone though, so I see why some still appreciate discs. Either way, if the Xbox does allow you to play games while they're being downloaded (as rumored), that issue is nonexistent.
Hey, you don't have to be using Xbone if you're not with Microsoft or at least a fanboy, maybe you just don't like that name! Though X1 apparently comes out to divorce in Japanese which just makes it more subtle and I feel encapsulates the way most of us feel about the Xbox platform now.
And damn, I missed his original post. Just buy the game digitally and let the rest of us that want to freely use and carry around discs do so. I know it's more like a compromise on how to handle media than a proper right, but I don't want to lose the freedoms I have with discs for conveniences that digital purchases already cover. Though at this point for all we know Microsoft maybe won't even bother with day 1 digital/retail release anyway, which would show just how behind the times they really are.
Steam does that. Once you install a disc with a Steam key, you are free to download the game whenever you want. I did this with Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead.
Exactly. Forza 4 was over 10 GB with both discs installed. With better quality textures you're looking at well over that. Even with on-the-fly downloading, you're still going to have lengthy wait times as you switch from car-to-car and track-to-track. The car packs on Forza 4 were ~110 MB and the tracks ~170 MB. To choose two cars and a track on an on-the-fly install will take well over 5 minutes on a 10 Mb connection.
I don't use Xbone only because I think it's really dumb. Even completely out of context this accusation of yours is pretty weak.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I really appreciate that Microsoft is doing this.
I'm so happy that when I buy my Xbox One at launch, alongside with Forza Motorsports 5, I can just put the disc in, and always have it with me on my harddrive, no longer needing the disc.
And then I can take my copy to my Friends House and play Forza Motorsports 5 together splitscreen, without me needing to bring my game! All digital and all perfect!
Microsoft is doing good with the Xbox One so far, hype!
I just can't tell if this is a troll post or a real one. It has to be a troll post.
THAT bothers you, but an always online console and harsh DRM doesn't? WTF??????
You can't trade in your Steam games though, can you?
aygomyownroad
Member
This is the major issue, Microsoft will lose so many sales around the world due to lack of reliable internet.
I wonder what the ratio is of armed forces (not just America), that use 360s or PS3s when on tour. Could be a big market down the pan as these soldiers will probably get the same console back home.
See, the whole dialing home thing is why this is a compromise not worth trying to make. I'd rather have a full digital platform, at least then there's no real reason to force me online all the time even if I have to use the internet to get games.
Irrelevant, as long as they don't make you sign those terms before buying the game and opening the case they're never going to be valid (In europe at least).
And just buy digital then? I actually don't really care if gamespot gets to pay for every used sale they make but I definitely don't think it's worth sacrificing used sales, borrowing games from friends and making the disc essentially really long rentals. This was already the case with digital but this is why many people didn't buy into digital as much as you might've.
It's also hilarious that you think those always on features you mention require DRM. How does that even make sense?
I don't need to trade in games that were less than $20 for me to buy.
I...ok. Are you a plant too? If you're a plant you have to tell me by law.