The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]

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Congratulations to all the Naughty Dogs for all the great reviews.

I can't wait for my survival edition from Amazon to get here. Now I just need to avoid spoilers until it gets here. Good thing there is E3 and a few World Cup Qualifiers (Go USA!) to keep me occupied.
 
Criticizing an opinion for being "out of touch" with the mean is one of the most ridiculous criticisms you could level at any review.
 
yes and also their only major sponsor from console gaming

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no sony/nintendo. media are always involved in scandals like these you think a gaming website wont favor someone that spends more money on them?

some people must be joking that claim "its just their opinion its normal".they must live in fairyland

Neither Sony (sadly due largely to their own incompetence) nor Nintendo are top-tier corporations as far as advertising goes. Outside of Microsoft, if you want to play the "they're bought game" since I don't even know if they advertise games on Polygon, game news sites should be wishing for advertising from Unilever, BMW, or Samsung.
 
Watched Adam Sessler Reviews in the 1st post.
12 minutes of him talking about how emotional the game madce & that he loves the acting, facial expression & story. Oh a few seconds he mentioned the 3 types of enemies in the game & I think he hinted that the game might be 3rd person shooter with some stealth elements.

This is why I really wanted Gamespots Kevin Van Ord to review this game, he is one of the few people who's opinion is worth a damn.

From all that I gathered, this game is Uncharted with some shitty stealth elements thrown in & heaver emphasis on story breaks.
Still the same shallow, linear, hand-holding, autopilot gameplay that Uncharted was?

It's a linear experience yes, but the AI and the actual gameplay once you encounter an enemy couldn't be more different than Uncharted. The stealth elements are NOT shitty.
 
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i think having dignity is important. nothing will happen to last of us for a polygon review. but i dont like fooling people trying to look "honest".

You have proven the following things with this post:

1) Polygon rated The Last of Us lower than the average

2) Microsoft is a sponsor of Polygon

What you have not proven is that Polygon is systematically biased against PS3 games. And if they aren't, then MS sponsorship is irrelevant.

You're trying to draw a conclusion from 2 points of data that are correlated in your mind. But correlations cannot be drawn from a single observation. You need multiple observations of Polygon's rating and its difference from the average. I told you what you need to do to make your case, so if you're going to continue to argue the conspiracy (and believe it) then why not prove it?
 
You have proven the following things with this post:

1) Polygon rated The Last of Us lower than the average

2) Microsoft is a sponsor of Polygon

What you have not proven is that Polygon is systematically biased against PS3 games. And if they aren't, then MS sponsorship is irrelevant.

You're trying to draw a conclusion from 2 points of data that are correlated in your mind. But correlations cannot be drawn from a single observation. I told you what you need to do to make your case, so if you're going to continue to argue the conspiracy (and believe it) then why not prove it?
Aegies.
 
Microsoft conspiracy? Man - some of you people make me laugh. Sure, they've given some middling reviews to PS3 titles - GoW:A was "good" at best and Ni No Kuni is.. well, the less said the better.

It remains to be seen how The Last of Us is - I'm pretty confident it'll be good though.

Also bare in mind Polygon's Sim City review - if you want to discredit their opinion that should be the reason why.
 
You have proven the following things with this post:

1) Polygon rated The Last of Us lower than the average

2) Microsoft is a sponsor of Polygon

What you have not proven is that Polygon is systematically biased against PS3 games. And if they aren't, then MS sponsorship is irrelevant.

You're trying to draw a conclusion from 2 points of data that are correlated in your mind. But correlations cannot be drawn from a single observation. I told you what you need to do to make your case, so if you're going to continue to argue the conspiracy (and believe it) then why not prove it?

i read their articles from the day they launched. i had them bookmarked since they had a logo with "coming soon".

they are biased/aegies/simcity/last of us.
not even a year old website.....
 
I think it's polygon that's the reason why people are shitting on them.

Everyone has called out ign review a joke despite them giving a 10
 
Video games journalism is a running joke on the internet until a AAA game is released and somebody doesn't toe the line and give it a 9.5+, then it's the gospel used to disprove a contrary opinion. How I'm suppose to masturbate to a metacritic score that isn't a perfect 100?
 
i red their articles from the day they launched. i had them bookmarked since they had a logo with "coming soon".

they are biased.

Unfortunately, casual observations tend to be haphazard and often serve to merely amplify our initial impressions, while at the same time we are insensitive to contradictory information. I'm sure that's not what's happening with you, though.
 
I think it's polygon that's the reason why people are shitting on them.

Everyone has called out a joke despite them giving a 10

thats why noone cares about an 8 from gamespot...

Unfortunately, casual observations tend to be haphazard and often serve to merely amplify our initial impressions, making us insensitive to contradictory information. I'm sure that's not what's happening with you, though.

nice.so polygon can have their opinion but noone else.
 
not gonna fall for 10/10 reviews again this happend with GTA 4 and i honestly hated it.

im having quite alot of fun with state of decay right now and i think id rather support a more indie dev. ill probs get this game when its dropped in price in few weeks
 
Video games journalism is a running joke on the internet until a AAA game is released and somebody doesn't toe the line and give it a 9.5+, then it's the gospel used to disprove a contrary opinion. How I'm suppose to masturbate to a metacritic score that isn't a perfect 100?

Games journalism would be a lot better if they just stopped using numbers.
 
Criticizing an opinion for being "out of touch" with the mean is one of the most ridiculous criticisms you could level at any review.

I mean, I get it if we were talking about one review. But how about an emerging pattern? Polygon goes through some rough weather, but it's for a reason. Every reviewer has a sort of right to review it the way he wants, but when The Last of US is their lowest rated game in a while, rated lower than the absolute atrociousness SimCity was, and PS3 titles consistently being rather poorly reviewed (in the skewed gaming journalism world where 6/10 is absolutely terrible).

I'm all for the subjective interpretation, but time and again defending them behind this guise just comes off as a bit odd.
 
The rational part of my brain says Polygon giving TLoU the lowest score so far is merely a funny coincidence considering the site is always insinuated as being in Microsoft's pocket.

But man... between the 7.5 and Gies downplaying the game there is some smoke there.
 
I seriously want Polygon banned from GAF. Geis has shown is a liar that won't pay his dues and it's one one of the most transparently biased sites in any review medium.
 
Unfortunately, casual observations tend to be haphazard and often serve to merely amplify our initial impressions, while at the same time we are insensitive to contradictory information. I'm sure that's not what's happening with you, though.

Would you care to show us a PS exclusive that Polygon has rated above the average besides Journey?

I don't know much about the site personally, but from my short term experience with them they barely ever get it right. Of course I am open to being proved wrong but for now thats where I stand.
 
You're trying to draw a conclusion from 2 points of data that are correlated in your mind. But correlations cannot be drawn from a single observation. You need multiple observations of Polygon's rating and its difference from the average. I told you what you need to do to make your case, so if you're going to continue to argue the conspiracy (and believe it) then why not prove it?

To be fair, there have been many points of data drawn into the discussion by previous posts.
 
I mean, I get it if we were talking about one review. But how about an emerging pattern? Polygon goes through some rough weather, but it's for a reason. Every reviewer has a sort of right to review it the way he wants, but when The Last of US is their lowest rated game in a while, rated lower than the absolute atrociousness SimCity was, and PS3 titles consistently being rather poorly reviewed (in the skewed gaming journalism world where 6/10 is absolutely terrible).

I'm all for the subjective interpretation, but time and again defending them behind this guise just comes off as a bit odd.

I don't mean to defend Polygon with that. Fuck Polygon. I'm just saying that this mentality that we have to tow the company line and we're using scores deviating from the mean as evidence for some conspiracy... it's all very unhealthy for actually creating an environment with opinions. I want opinions.

People are biased. Everyone's biased. I don't care; it doesn't matter to me. Corruption; that's a problem. Bias? Not a problem, imo.
 
Unfortunately, casual observations tend to be haphazard and often serve to merely amplify our initial impressions, while at the same time we are insensitive to contradictory information. I'm sure that's not what's happening with you, though.

You're not going to reason with him. If you check his post history, he is a militant anti-Microsoft anti-Polygon poster and this is the perfect opportunity to combine his hatred of the two with a conspiracy theory you proletariats are too stupid to piece together (the answer is in front of your eyes!).

Would you care to show us a PS exclusive that Polygon has rated above the average besides Journey?

I don't know much about the site personally, but from my short term experience with them they barely ever get it right. Of course I am open to being proved wrong but for now thats where I stand.

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There aren't many Microsoft exclusives that Polygon scored higher than the average either. There are a few that are scored slightly higher or lower than the Metascore but that could be due to the Metascore being changed as more reviews were added (Polygon's reviews are among the first) or other reasons.
 
I seriously want Polygon banned from GAF. Geis has shown is a liar that won't pay his dues and it's one one of the most transparently biased sites in any review medium.

I like their features. Their news is average and about the same as everywhere else.

Their reviews are some of the worst out there and are by far the worst part of the site.
 
Would you care to show us a PS exclusive that Polygon has rated above the average besides Journey?

I don't know much about the site personally, but from my short term experience with them they barely ever get it right. Of course I am open to being proved wrong but for now thats where I stand.

Guacamelee.
 
I seriously want Polygon banned from GAF. Geis has shown is a liar that won't pay his dues and it's one one of the most transparently biased sites in any review medium.

Polygon was slated long before this. It's frustrating to me that some are trying to link the Polygon hate with this review. There are countless other reasons that came way before this. Much of GAF has been anti Polygon for months, and they certainly don't make it easy for themselves. Pushing lies and corporate spiel, making stuff up about hardware and special sauce and all sorts.
 
Imagine how many people clicked on the Polygon link, just to see what the fuss is about.

Gamespot must be pissed that Polygon scored it lower, lol

And this is why I'm under the impression that this is probably not conspiracy, but rather a site that uses the 'all PR is good PR' thing. If you purposefully polarize your views to the other end of the scale, people will make a fuzz about it. Be it SimCity, which you then can backtrack and say "oh, now, several days later, we'll change the score! And again! And again!", and otherwise going against the crowd, is just as dishonest as being paid by someone to review them worse.
 
What really annoys me is people pretend that others don't major reasons why they feel this way.

People have legit reasons,not all of them because of a few reviews this being going on for awhile now.
 
Isn't this the same "hivemind" stereotyping spun positive? You're painting a flattering picture of the forum as uniform when this thread -- indeed the page I see your post on -- abounds with instances of pure lunacy. The lunatic responses aren't "GAF" in general, but no amount of Pollyanna optimism can conceal their existence. In fact people of the mindset you describe seem to be in the minority in this thread. You say most simply aren't concerned about reviews one way or another -- To the contrary, I see many, many people obsessed with scores, already armed with fully-formed and inflexible expectations, who see literal conspiracy in anything that can't confirm their bias.

That's because the subject of this thread attracts them. Reasonable people only visit it to check for new info and try to temper the discussion and leave.
 
Polygon was slated long before this. It's frustrating to me that some are trying to link the Polygon hate with this review. There are countless other reasons that came way before this. Much of GAF has been anti Polygon for months, and they certainly don't make it easy for themselves. Pushing lies and corporate spiel, making stuff up about hardware and special sauce and all sorts.

They are worse than Kotaku ever has been and wasn't Kotaku banned at one point?
 
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