Sakurai confirms Smash trailer at E3 direct!

TreIII said:
Agreed.

But in any case, I do agree with the overall sentiment that one of the best things about Smash is that, thus far, every game in the series has been decidedly different from one another. I can certainly appreciate that much.

That said, that's all the more reason I'm hoping that Namco's involvement will be for the better. With the production staff being made up of the likes of people who worked on Soulcalibur, Tekken and Gundam Vs., I'd like to think that they'd be able to make a game that can hopefully arrive at a nice compromise of Sakurai's vision and solid gameplay mechanics...and hopefully without the need of utterly stupid things like tripping.
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definitely, I like that the series has evolved in different ways and I respect Sakurai for his amazing work so far; it's certainly going to be interesting to see the extent of Namco's input on the game, like you said. I also keep in mind that, to me, Melee will never be surpassed, especially in terms of having that raw, brutal feel to it. From the time I read Sakurai's feelings on the matter (about the game being too hard and such) I've made peace with it.
 
Deguello said:
Are you his protectionist over Pit, who was essentially recreated in Sakurai's image, totally trampling whatever the hell was going on in the Gameboy game the last time anybody saw him?
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There wasn't really anything in the NES or Gameboy game to trample.
 
The only characters I'd say I really want would be: Isaac/Matthew, Little Mac, Ray 01, Waluigi, Geno, Pac-Man (as the namco rep none of this tekken/tales bullshit), Sukapon, and Sigurd being the longshot never gonna happen choice.
 
GregLombardi said:
I really hope they stop making stages where shit moves around you and attacks you for no reason. Some of those stages in Brawl were just awful.

The best stages are the ones where the landscape makes the fight more interesting, not more difficult.
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I hope they ditch the giant stages like New Pork City.
 
There are too many sword users as is. I want Ganondorf to continue to punch things hard. He is the bearer of the Triforce of Power after all.
 
NeonZ said:
Samus dies because the power suit "runs out of energy" by being damaged and that damaged gets to her body. There's no evidence that, before the Fusion suit, Samus' suit is a life support system that's necessary to keep her alive.
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Well, just as a gameplay example, if you take something which reduces the Power Suit's energy to exactly 0 and no more, you die rather than remain alive.

Well, in Brawl, the standard way to get to ZSS is by using the final Smash, where the suit is damaged and removed. Yes, obviously there's also the shortcut to start the battle as ZSS, but even there you've got the suit breaking apart and falling on the ground, rather than just being teleported out.
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See above. That's just now how it has ever worked in any of the games.

Also, her standard gun attack is still a teaser which won't knock out anyone, just like in Zero Mission. She did end up stronger than suited Samus, but that's just a balance issue, not a problem with her basic concept. In the story mode, getting suit Samus is even treated like an upgrade.
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Yes, but in Zero Mission she can't take out anyone at all. Full stop.
 
Azure J said:
Oh also, Palutena is a must. I'm already a little sad that Uprising has made it so everyone forgot Medusa even though she's pretty much the reason for the series in the first place just because Hades (as hilarious as he was) played her for a puppet. I will not relent on Palu though.

@Shaowebb: I still want a Sanctuary Fortress (Metroid Prime 2) stage with random Rezbits floating around that'd cause the screen to look like when you insert a NES cartridge wrong but the game plays anyway.
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So many good stage ideas exist for a new Smash honestly. Quite a lot has happened since the last one. Here's hoping that there is a regular vs mode that can use the sticker stat customization idea they had as it was essentially never used being something only relegated to the Subspace Emissary which hardly anyone replayed after beating it for characters.

Given both the Wii U and 3ds have stylus functions I am betting some stages will involve that some how sort of like how folks could create platforms in the platformers on Wii U.

Here's hoping that we dont get shafted on good Metroid stages and end up with another Brinstar/Norfair scenario. Its pretty likely we might though given how memorable the Phazon planet was in Prime 3. God knows dealing with Phazon would be a horrifying thing in a stage worthy of Norfair/Brinstar's scary reputations.
 
Firemind said:
There are too many sword users as is. I want Ganondorf to continue to punch things hard. He is the bearer of the Triforce of Power after all.
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I wouldn't mind if they at least give him his most classic and iconic moves: teleportation and the ability to shoot magic blasts that can be bounced back at him. And giving him his trident wouldn't hurt.
 
wsippel said:
Why? She's not a bodybuilder or wrestler. She mostly needs agility and endurance, not strength (which is provided by her armor), so she should look more like an athlete or dancer. And I guess she kinda does.
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Because the armor is heavy. Probably so heavy a regular person couldn't use it. She doesn't have to be bulkier. Maybe she could have more definition at least.

My point about not wanting her to look like a model stands. Dozens of female characters appeal to beauty. Samus doesn't need too.

Don't take my criticism as hate for the ending pictures from Metroid games. They show Samus as a strong woman. To me, anyways.
 
snack said:
Which system? Wii U?

I bought the Wii just for brawl... Might have to buy Wii U now...
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They're working on a 3DS game too, but nobody's quite sure if it's going to be a downport of the Wii U game (like Playstation All-Stars), or it's own seperate thing.
 
Seik said:
Better than that.

Skyward spoiler: I want
Demise.
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All I want from the Zelda is Ganon. And I mean the PROPER trident-wielding Blue Boar from the annals of Zelda 1, LTTP and the Oracle games, not just some beast transformation that's still attached to Ganondorf.

Hell, if I had it my way, Toon Link would get nixed, because he was to make way for LTTP Link, with Ganon as his "rival". With LTTP2 likely having been in development for a while, it would only make sense for Smash's new "child" Link to reflect the most recent portrayal of the character. Meanwhile, Ganon would just serve as a way to right the wrong of how a classic character has been looked over for far too long...
 
Crab said:
Well, just as a gameplay example, if you take something which reduces the Power Suit's energy to exactly 0 and no more, you die rather than remain alive.



See above. That's just now how it has ever worked in any of the games.



Yes, but in Zero Mission she can't take out anyone at all. Full stop.
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I don't see the point in discussing how unrealistic a character's moveset is in a game where Peach shoots out hearts, Diddy is able to spawn bananas out of nowhere, Fox/Falco/Wolf primarily attack with their arms and legs instead of their vehicles, Game & Watch using innocuous objects to attack, etc.

Heck, Zero Suit Samus' moveset makes a ton of sense compared to most others in the game.
 
MisterHero said:
She shouldn't look "just fit", but outright muscular. Based on her story, she should look like a fighter and less like a model.

Anyways, I really want Fusion Samus as her main build in SSB4. Feel free to go crazy over that too.
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Depends on the woman, women in general don't have enough testosterone to get big, but certain muscles get bigger than other depending on genetics or what kind of exercises.

She looks like she has more of a sprinter or heptathlon body to me.
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Crab said:
There wasn't really anything in the NES or Gameboy game to trample.
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Yes there is. In the original Pit just shoots arrows like the little Cupid Angel that he is. In this new, blasphemous version, he goes all out anime-fighter and has all of these flashy moves and melee attack weapons THAT. WERE. NOT. PRESENT. in the original. Totally ruined forever.

I mean I don't even know how Sakurai can sleep at night, knowing he violated this classic character so much. Maybe he just doesn't understand the game series or the character.
 
So lets see, we got Pit, Zero-Suit Samus, Meta Knight, Wario and Snake as the "secret reveal".

I'm betting they'll probably follow with a similar fashion- 3-5 character reveals, one of which is a "secret reveal"....probably Bayonetta or the like.
 
Deguello said:
Yes there is. In the original Pit just shoots arrows like the little Cupid Angel that he is. In this new, blasphemous version, he goes all out anime-fighter and has all of these flashy moves and melee attack weapons THAT. WERE. NOT. PRESENT. in the original. Totally ruined forever.

I mean I don't even know how Sakurai can sleep at night, knowing he violated this classic character so much. Maybe he just doesn't understand the game series or the character.
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...Are you being facetious here? It's hard to tell because internet.
 
Ein Bear said:
This would be perfect. I always thought the way that WW Ganondorf kept his twin swords up his sleeves and popped them, Wolverine style, was badass. You could still have some of his classic punch moves, then have him pop the swords mid-combo or something.
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I actually think the best Zelda sword-fight with a "comparable humanoid" (i.e., not Koloktos who is the best sword fight in the series) is the final form Zant in Twilight Princess, just because of the sheer speed. Twilight Princess Ganondorf was so disappointing - how you could possibly actually get hit by him, I have no idea. Zant just absolutely whales on you, psycho-style. No restraint what-so-ever, the guy just actually wants you dead and now. The closest Ganondorf ever got to the stage of speed and ferocity was Wind Waker. It's just a shame he was so weak, it would have been the best Ganondorf fight if he'd been buffed a little.
 
MisterHero said:
Because the armor is heavy. Probably so heavy a regular person couldn't use it. She doesn't have to be bulkier. Maybe she could have more definition at least.

My point about not wanting her to look like a model stands. Dozens of female characters are appeals to beauty. Samus doesn't need too.

Don't take my criticism as hate for the ending pictures from Metroid games. They show Samus as a strong woman. To me, anyways.
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'definition' is not a reliable metric for strength in the slightest though, it just cosmetic trait derived from low body fat.
 
Deguello said:
Yes there is. In the original Pit just shoots arrows like the little Cupid Angel that he is. In this new, blasphemous version, he goes all out anime-fighter and has all of these flashy moves and melee attack weapons THAT. WERE. NOT. PRESENT. in the original. Totally ruined forever.

I mean I don't even know how Sakurai can sleep at night, knowing he violated this classic character so much. Maybe he just doesn't understand the game series or the character.
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For a second I thought you were serious.
 
-Horizon- said:
I hope they ditch the giant stages like New Pork City.
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I like big stages like that, However New Pork City had a lot going on in the background if I recall which made it easy to lose track of your character. Also New Pork City wasn't designed that well. Hyrule Temple was an awesome large stage that setup for a lot of different playstyles and strategies.
 
Deguello said:
Yes there is. In the original Pit just shoots arrows like the little Cupid Angel that he is. In this new, blasphemous version, he goes all out anime-fighter and has all of these flashy moves and melee attack weapons THAT. WERE. NOT. PRESENT. in the original. Totally ruined forever.

I mean I don't even know how Sakurai can sleep at night, knowing he violated this classic character so much. Maybe he just doesn't understand the game series or the character.
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Yes, because Pit never uses arrows in Kid Icarus: Uprising.

:3
 
A character has to be on a Nintendo console to qualify right? Yuri Lowell will be in Project X Zone on the 3DS soon right?

I know I know, but I can wish dammit.
 
Poltergust said:
I don't see the point in discussing how unrealistic a character's moveset is in a game where Peach shoots out hearts, Diddy is able to spawn bananas out of nowhere, Fox/Falco/Wolf primarily attack with their arms and legs instead of their vehicles, Game & Watch using innocuous objects to attack, etc.

Heck, Zero Suit Samus' moveset makes a ton of sense compared to most others in the game.
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I'm not talking about realism? I'm talking about faithfulness. Game&Watch using innocuous objects to attack is pretty much as inline with his games as you could expect with putting him in a fighter. Zero Suit Samus isn't, in the same way (only obviously not anyway near to the same extent) as putting Excuse Me Princess Link in as Link's representation would be.
 
MisterHero said:
She shouldn't look "just fit", but outright muscular. Based on her story, she should look like a fighter and less like a model.

Anyways, I really want Fusion Samus as her main build in SSB4. Feel free to go crazy over that too.
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Samus has Chozo DNA.
She is not the typical "human", she doesn't need to be "musclar".

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snack said:
Which system? Wii U?

I bought the Wii just for brawl... Might have to buy Wii U now...
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It's for Wii U and 3DS, although it's kind of hard to say which one they'll be showing off and if there are any differences between them.

They SHOULD show off the Wii U version more, personally. Wii U needs all the pushes it can get and SSB is one of the best things it can have going for it right now. 3DS would basically just be icing on the cake, and I'm hoping we'll at least see either some screenshots or a bit of footage from that as well.
 
Deguello said:
Yes there is. In the original Pit just shoots arrows like the little Cupid Angel that he is. In this new, blasphemous version, he goes all out anime-fighter and has all of these flashy moves and melee attack weapons THAT. WERE. NOT. PRESENT. in the original. Totally ruined forever.

I mean I don't even know how Sakurai can sleep at night, knowing he violated this classic character so much. Maybe he just doesn't understand the game series or the character.
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I'm pretty sure this is a joke. (I hope)

I also feel that New Port City was waaaaaaay too big. When it panned out it was near impossible to see the characters.

Hyrule needs to return though. Best arena to this day.
 
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