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[Deleted member 47027]

Well, internet is useless since I have my body limitations

I guess i should hire a PT for the first times?

What are your limitations? For good form a trainer (assuming you find a good one, which you ought to) is very important as good form is the basis of everything you'll do, and I highly recommend using one especially if you do have legitimate limitations and want to be stronger.

 

[Tenks]

I was on/off on having a gym membership. Honestly I did most of my stuff at home. All you really need (heavily IMO) is a benchpress and a few levels of dumbbells. I added a punching bag too and that was good for cardio and lat work.

 

[Mr. B Natural]

I'll give you one tip: for the first two months, pay either monthly or by visit. It might cost you double the price, but at least you won't be locked in for a full year if you decide you no loner want to go. So many people stop going after a few months and end up having to pay for a full year because they signed to a commitment.

Very good advice. Don't be a sucker. Let a trial be a trial.

 

[Dark Stalkers]

i'd worry about getting too big if you start lifting weights.

yep, i'd take up swimming if i was the op so i could build long lean muscle instead of big bulky muscle

we need a swole acceptance movement.

r/swoleacceptance

 

[The Horror the horror]

Why are you repping to failure every week?

Why wouldn't you? Repping to failure isn't necessarily just about burning yourself out on a set of 15-20 reps. It could be going for 6, when you usually can only push 5 reps.

 

[WorldStar]

Well, internet is useless since I have my body limitations

what does this mean? what sort of limitations?

if you are talking about an injury or handicap, you should be able to get some help here:

Workout Programs: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8
Injury Recovery And Prevention: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=91

Just post what's up and they will point you in the right direction. If you have the money and do have some sort of injury/handicap, a trainer is not a bad idea at all.

 

[triplestation]

i think im just gonna keep doing what i've been doing

i really just need to find new ways to combat boredom, thread should have been ''how to not be bored all the time''

now people are just gonna talk about fitness thread stuff'

what have i done

 

[SeanR1221]

Remember to always curl in the squat rack, and do always wrist curls on open bench press stations.

Don't forget to do barbell raises in the squat rack. And push-ups. Basically anything but squats because that's what a will smith machine is for.

 

[SouSouRocket]

Gyms don't work for me in the winter time because when it gets past a certain temperature the idea of going outside in gym clothes (even with a coat and boots on) is just awful. Or you could take a giant bag, change your clothes, then you have the option of showering there and taking even longer to get home, or putting your clothes back on all sweaty and disgusting, which is also terrible. So I prefer to work out at home. But that's me--some friends of mine can't be bothered if they try to work out at home, just no motivation. It's really a personal thing.

 

[WorldStar]

Don't forget to do barbell raises in the squat rack. And push-ups. Basically anything but squats because that's what a will smith machine is for.

u mad i curl in squat rack, bro?

yea u mad

 

[FallingEdge]

yep, i'd take up swimming if i was the op so i could build long lean muscle instead of big bulky muscle


r/swoleacceptance

thank you based swole god

 

[Lovely Salsa]

What are your limitations? For good form a trainer (assuming you find a good one, which you ought to) is very important as good form is the basis of everything you'll do, and I highly recommend using one especially if you do have legitimate limitations and want to be stronger.

I have arm and leg movement limitations (had an accident)

I want to have an athlete body....

 

[SeanR1221]

Why wouldn't you? Repping to failure isn't necessarily just about burning yourself out on a set of 15-20 reps. It could be going for 6, when you usually can only push 5 reps.

And what program has you going to failure every single week.

 

[fredrancour]

Lifting is pretty dang satisfying. Compound barbell lifts are fun and make my body just feel generally balanced and more functional, and there are some machines that leave my back with a satisfying feeling too- I like seated rows and face-pulls on a cable machine, mainly.


Just don't use the smith machine.

 

[Mully]

Gyms are good for most people because power racks can be pretty expensive. It's easier to pay $20/month for 15,000 square feet of equipment that's just minutes away from your house or job.

 

[The Horror the horror]

And what program has you going to failure every single week.

It can be any program. Take the standard 5x5. What's wrong with trying to go for 6 on that last set? Or going for 5, on the 8x6x4 system?

 

[Dude Abides]

Sure. I've been gym lifting for 18 years and it's rewarding. Just don't go at peak times if you live in an urban area. That shit sucks.

Unfortunately this thread is going to be hijacked by meatheads arguing about minutae.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I have arm and leg movement limitations (had an accident)

I want to have an athlete body....

In that case, definitely get a trainer who has experience with people who deal with injury. They'll likely be worth it, and safety should be your primary concern especially starting out. Have them work with you on mobility and find out what your limits are, and they should set you on the path to what you need. Good luck, and let us know in Fit-GAF how it goes, because we are genuinely interested.

 

[FallingEdge]

It can be any program. Take the standard 5x5. What's wrong with trying to go for 6 on that last set? Or going for 5, on the 8x6x4 system?

5/3/1 is a program designed for max reps on your last set. I myself tend to stop a rep or two prior to failure.

I don't see why you would try to do an extra rep in a standard 3x5 or 5x5 program other than to "just do it". To each their own though.

Sure. I've been gym lifting for 18 years and it's rewarding. Just don't go at peak times if you live in an urban area. That shit sucks.

Unfortunately this thread is going to be hijacked by meatheads arguing about minutae.

swole acceptance plz.

 

[Mully]

It can be any program. Take the standard 5x5. What's wrong with trying to go for 6 on that last set? Or going for 5, on the 8x6x4 system?

There's nothing wrong with it if you plan on plateauing within three months.

 

[SeanR1221]

It can be any program. Take the standard 5x5. What's wrong with trying to go for 6 on that last set? Or going for 5, on the 8x6x4 system?

Because if you're grinding out those last few reps they're probably sloppy? Leave 1 or 2 reps in the tank.

Tuesday was my 5s+ week on 5/3/1 deadlift. I got 8 reps and stopped because I'd compromise form doing more. Why would it be a good idea to go to failure on that every single time I step foot in the gym?

Please don't tell me you're one of those guys who benches while your friend pulls the bar up.

 

[The Horror the horror]

5/3/1 is a program designed for max reps on your last set

I don't see why you would try to do an extra rep in a standard 3x5 or 5x5 program other than to "just do it".

There is no specific system for executing max reps.

Repping to failure benefits the lifter regardless of the program they're on.

 

[TylerD]

If you sign up for a gym membership, you need to commit and go or else there is no point.

My situation right now is that I signed up for a membership at Gold's. Paid the initial membership fee and was supposed to be getting charged monthly on my credit card. This was mid 2011 and they never charged me a monthly fee. I haven't been since August last year and I have no idea if my membership is still active.

Really don't want to go swipe my card and all of a sudden show up as someone who hasn't been paying monthly all this time and be responsible for all the months I haven't been paying. It was a huge PITA to actually get them to get my account setup and activate my membership in the first place so the fact I never got charged monthly is not really that surprising to me.

 

[FallingEdge]

There is no specific system for executing max reps.

Repping to failure benefits the lifter regardless of the program they're on.

What? Of course there is. There are programs such as the one I posted (5/3/1) where it is designed to do max reps.

And repping to failure can either benefit or hurt the lifter. It isn't something that you just do for the sake of doing. They have their place in a program. Not every single routine benefits from it.

 

[The Horror the horror]

Because if you're grinding out those last few reps they're probably sloppy? Leave 1 or 2 reps in the tank.

Tuesday was my 5s+ week on 5/3/1 deadlift. I got 8 reps and stopped because I'd compromise form doing more. Why would it be a good idea to go to failure on that every single time I step foot in the gym?

Please don't tell me you're one of those guys who benches while your friend pulls the bar up.

Yes, dude, I'm one of those guys that has another guy give me a lift-off, holds on to the bar through each rep, and yank it up at the first sign of struggle...

 

[Solon Solute]

Yeah, just make sure the membership isn't contract-based. Or you might end up getting screwed.

 

[The Horror the horror]

What? Of course there is. There are programs such as the one I posted (5/3/1) where it is designed to do max reps.

And repping to failure can benefit or hurt the lifter. It isn't something that you just do for the sake of doing. They have their place in a program. Not every single routine benefits from it.

If it means an increase in workload, I don't see how it would hurt. I'm not saying go for max on the very first set, but on your last set or on the burn-off set, I don't see the problem.

 

[Superman00]

This sounds like a lot of excuses.

You're talking about this, right?

That's a machine. It's not a free weight.

If your gym is packed 24/7, ask to work in. It's not hard.

You shouldn't need a spotter when you bench.

I go all out when I lift. My arms will give out. I know cause it happens all the time.

 

[SeanR1221]

What? Of course there is. There are programs such as the one I posted (5/3/1) where it is designed to do max reps.

And repping to failure can either benefit or hurt the lifter. It isn't something that you just do for the sake of doing. They have their place in a program. Not every single routine benefits from it.

And I'd take it further and say that proper form must be used throughout all the reps. If you're hitching those last couple deads you shouldn't be doing them.

 

[fredrancour]

If it means an increase in workload, I don't see how it would hurt. I'm not saying go for max on the very first set, but on your last set or on the burn-off set, I don't see the problem.

Because it can sometimes increase the risk of injury with zero fitness benefit.

 

[SeanR1221]

If it means an increase in workload, I don't see how it would hurt. I'm not saying go for max on the very first set, but on your last set or on the burn-off set, I don't see the problem.

Why are you altering the programs? Just stick to what you should be doing. It hurts because something like a 3x5 increases your weight every workout. Going for broke every workout seems like a good way to have unnecessary load on your joints.

I go all out when I lift. My arms will give out. I know cause it happens all the time.

And you question why you haven't made significant gains.

 

[FallingEdge]

If it means an increase in workload, I don't see how it would hurt. I'm not saying go for max on the very first set, but on your last set or on the burn-off set, I don't see the problem.

Compromised form and breakdown of the CNS are two big reasons. Of course, it depends on what you are doing. Going for max reps/failure on something like curls is fine. Doing it everytime for bench isn't always the best idea. If you are truly lifting heavy and compromising form just to get an additional rep up, that is not a good thing. Plus you are taxing your CNS immensely. Higher rep hypertrophy work makes sense to go closer to failure.

There is a time and a place. Even doing something like 5/3/1 where you are essentially going for max reps on your final set has a week where you deload so that you won't tax your CNS. Just because you can do something to failure, doesn't mean you should.

Why did the conversation switch to deadlifts? Sean started it off by saying a spotter in bench was unnecessary.

whoops. my mind got multiple things mixed up. editting.

 

[Zoe]

Why did the conversation switch to deadlifts? Sean started it off by saying a spotter in bench was unnecessary.

 

[Superman00]

Why are you altering the programs? Just stick to what you should be doing. It hurts because something like a 3x5 increases your weight every workout. Going for broke every workout seems like a good way to have unnecessary load on your joints.


And you question why you haven't made significant gains.

Now you just assuming shits. Have I told you how much I lift? Did I say I don't do free bench? I don't do them every time. Each person body is different. If it was, we wouldn't have all these different workout regiments. I'm at 150lbs when I use to be 120lbs. And I'm done.

 

[Batigol]

Not for me. Forced contracts that are hard to get out of and shitty prices. Here anyway.

I just bought my own bench and weights

 

[The Horror the horror]

Why are you altering the programs? Just stick to what you should be doing. It hurts because something like a 3x5 increases your weight every workout. Going for broke every workout seems like a good way to have unnecessary load on your joints.

Never said go for broke every workout. I specifically said that there was nothing wrong with going for another rep on your very last set, so as to not jeopardize your program. Explain to me in detail how going 5x5 and going for 6 on that final set would hurt your workout?

 

[Slayer-33]

you obviously have too much money. How about you send me 20$ for every day you miss a work-out?

Oh nah bro I have not signed up

 

[Vio-Lence]

i have a confession to make, i never go over 5 reps for deadlifts on 5/3/1. high rep deads always seem like a recipe for injury. 5x10 BBB no thank you.

 

[entremet]

I tried the whole workout at home thing with P90x. Just not my thing. I wanna relax at home not workout. So I do endorse gyms. However, I do think gyms are terrible for novices.

Meaning, a typical gym you're basically fucking around if you're a novice. Go on the elliptical, do some bicep curls and leave. You usually need to be hyper motivated to get more info on programming. Most people don't follow a program written by experts.

Although some Crossfit boxes suck, this is were the better ones get it right. They have mandatory classes to learn fundamentals. It's group based, so you make friends and get more motivation. It's skill based. You learn stuff like olympic lifts, gymnastics, not just your normal globo gym routine that I mentioned above.

But most people, unless highly motivated or just have pretty simple goals--just doing cardio for example, tend to spin their wheels at gyms and it never becomes a life time habit.

Say what you will about meatheads, but the nicer ones, and I never meat the stereotypical ones that you see in Planet Fitness ads, are dedicated and are very helpful and they're usually being doing it for years.

 

[SeanR1221]

Now you just assuming shits. Have I told you how much I lift? Did I say I don't do free bench? I don't do them every time. Each person body is different. If it was, we wouldn't have all these different workout regiments. I'm at 150lbs when I use to be 120lbs. And I'm done.

Yes?

It's not a pulley machine though. It is still free weights. I don't do the benches cause it is massively pack at my gym and they are never free. Plus I hate doing heavy weights without a spotter and it is annoying to ask people to spot.

Although when I say I haven't put on a lot of muscle, my definition of a lot is different than the OP. lol

Never said go for broke every workout. I specifically said that there was nothing wrong with going for another rep on your very last set, so as to not jeopardize your program. Explain to me in detail how going 5x5 and going for 6 on that final set would hurt your workout?

Well which is it. Are you throwing in an extra rep or repping to failure. Make up your mind.

 

[Beardz]

Worth every minute and every penny, don't expect visible results for the first 3 - 4 months, but after a year when you look at your old photos, hot dang!

 

[The Horror the horror]

Well which is it. Are you throwing in an extra rep or repping to failure. Make up your mind.

If you're going for 6 on the last set of a 5x5 workout, obviously you're repping that last set to failure.

 

[SeanR1221]

If you're going for 6 on the last set of a 5x5 workout, obviously you're repping that last set to failure.

No you're not. What if you can handle 3 more reps?

 

[The Horror the horror]

No you're not. What if you can handle 3 more reps?

If you can do 3 more reps on the last set of 5x5 then obviously you need to add more weight to the bar, genius.

Anyway, I'm done going back and forth with you. I should have known better than to engage in a strength training discussion with someone who believes no one should need a spot.

 

[Escape Goat]

Gime? Whats a gime?

 

[Mully]

If you can do 3 more reps on the last set of 5x5 then obviously you need to add more weight.

Anyway, I'm done going back and forth with you. I should have known better than to engage in a strength training discussion with someone who believes no one should need a spot.

When did he say there's no need for a spotter? Have you seen the fitness thread, SeanR goes with a lifting buddy every time.

 

[The Horror the horror]

When did he say there's no need for a spotter? Have you seen the fitness thread, SeanR goes with a lifting buddy every time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61743626&postcount=84

 

[MrToughPants]

I am thinking about joining a gym after believing for so long that they were a waste of money because you can do all of what you need right at home. (keeping a good diet, getting moderate exercise by walking and commuting) And of course, before gyms were even a thing people still managed to be healthy.

But I'm just often bored to death at home all the time, I do nothing all day but sit and browse the internet and jerk off. So maybe getting away from home and going to the gym can be a mental benefit, too. Maybe it can be refreshing. Gyms seem to have become real popular in the last decade but what does NON-GYM Gaf think about gyms?

Why not build a home gym so you can jerk off while lifting?

 

[TheChocolateWar]

The worthwhile-ness of the gym depends on your fitness goals. If you wanna get big and strong, you're gonna need a really good home gym. You need to measure the cost of buying v. membership of local gyms. If you just wanna cut weight? Eat less, walk more.

 

[triplestation]

Why not build a home gym so you can jerk off while lifting?

I live in an apartment !!

All I can do are bodyweight squats! But I keep a bucket of ground beef below me so every time I squat down my boner fucks the beef !!!!