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[Madness]

It's not exactly uncommon for people to emotionally invest in fictional stories they love. We've being doing it for, well, ever.

I know, I was devastated. What's the point of watching then if you don't get emotionally involved? It's what taps into our humanity.

I don't watch just because it's the 'cool' show etc.

Watching these reaction vids, one thing is clear. The book readers knew about this episode and what will happen all this time.

Every single post about speculation, and battles at Casterly Rock, about how the North has a chance, how the Lannisters would lose. They always knew it to be not true.

I wonder how much else they know, about what's yet to come. I couldn't imagine knowing what would happen to Ned, people like Renly, seeing Lord Mormont get betrayed, what happens to Robb, his wife and his mom, and still want to keep watching. I almost don't want to watch today's episode. It's like the joy was all sucked out last week.

I don't think anything else can really shock me anymore. The damage has been done. I couldn't imagine having read the books all those years ago and then watching and waiting for this scene to come.

 

[GordonHalfman]

I don't think it's weird at all. I teared up a bit even though I knew it was coming. Michelle Fairley just did that well.

 

[Showaddy]

Yes but most Targaryen kept the white hair also because they were always inbreeding, which obviously wouldn't be the case with Jon Snow. I mean it happens all the time that a son looks more like this mother than his father.

Yep I remember at the end of season 2 when Daenery's met Khal Drogo again and the show went to the effort of putting that terrible brown wig on her 'baby'. I don't think the Targaryen genetic traits are particularly dominant.

 

[Mario007]

Man just watched the last episode of season 1. No Robb...you won't kill them all

 

[Madness]

Saw this. It's pretty true for show watchers who hadn't read the books lol.

 

[Vashetti]

^ George said on Conan the other day that he was writing fast, so I assume it took him ten minutes to write that title.

 

[ASIS]

^ George said on Conan the other day that he was writing fast, so I assume it took him ten minutes to write that title.

How long does it take to create a novel for an average writer, and how much does it take for GRRM to get one out?

 

[Locke_211]

I just got the Blu rays and re-watched the first episode. There's entire scenes just between main characters who are all now dead!

And it's great to see the brief first appearances of characters I probably didn't realise existed until way later, like the guy Arya is now going around with.

 

[EatChildren]

How long does it take to create a novel for an average writer, and how much does it take for GRRM to get one out?

There's not really any average. It's a..."when it's done" kinda situation.

1996: A Game of Thrones
1998: A Clash of Kings
2000: A Storm of Swords
2005: A Feast for Crows
2011: A Dance with Dragons
20XX: The Winds of Winter
30XX: A Dream of Spring

 

[Madness]

There's not really any average. It's a..."when it's done" kinda situation.

1996: A Game of Thrones
1998: A Clash of Kings
2000: A Storm of Swords
2005: A Feast for Crows
2011: A Dance with Dragons
20XX: The Winds of Winter
30XX: A Dream of Spring

So basically someone who was born when the first book came out, will probably be going to college this year lol and the series is still two books from finishing.

 

[Scuderia]

I think he's probably pressured to get on with it now it's become so popular though.

 

[gregor7777]

So basically someone who was born when the first book came out, will probably be going to college this year lol and the series is still two books from finishing.

It's weird, yah. I remember getting the first book in my high school years. Loved it. Still waiting 17 years later lol.

IIRC, the series originally was only going to be like 4 books.

I don't think he realized how popular they would be in the early 2000s.

 

[Willkiller]

It's weird, yah. I remember getting the first book in my high school years. Loved it. Still waiting 17 years later lol.

IIRC, the series originally was only going to be like 4 books.

Meant to be a trilogy at first.


...


:lol

 

[gregor7777]

Meant to be a trilogy at first.


...


:lol

Trilogy, right. Yeah I remember that talk lol.

 

[Trigger]

There's not really any average. It's a..."when it's done" kinda situation.

1996: A Game of Thrones
1998: A Clash of Kings
2000: A Storm of Swords
2005: A Feast for Crows
2011: A Dance with Dragons
20XX: The Winds of Winter
30XX: A Dream of Spring

So at this rate my grandchildren will be reading the last books to me?

 

[Blader]

There's not really any average. It's a..."when it's done" kinda situation.

1996: A Game of Thrones
1998: A Clash of Kings
2000: A Storm of Swords
2005: A Feast for Crows
2011: A Dance with Dragons
20XX: The Winds of Winter
30XX: A Dream of Spring

At that rate it seems hard to imagine the series NOT outpacing the books. I wonder if GRRM would actually allow the showrunners to spoil what he has planned for the 7th book before he can get it out there, or if he doesn't have any say in the matter.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

He might speed up now that he actually has a firm schedule to race against.

We can only hope.

 

[Jamie OD]

I just got the Blu rays and re-watched the first episode. There's entire scenes just between main characters who are all now dead!

And it's great to see the brief first appearances of characters I probably didn't realise existed until way later, like the guy Arya is now going around with.

I'm convinced the show will reach the point where everybody who appeared in the first episode will be either dead or permanently removed from the plot somehow.

 

[ASIS]

There's not really any average. It's a..."when it's done" kinda situation.

1996: A Game of Thrones
1998: A Clash of Kings
2000: A Storm of Swords
2005: A Feast for Crows
2011: A Dance with Dragons
20XX: The Winds of Winter
30XX: A Dream of Spring

Okay I lol'ed!

 

[Forceatowulf]

I am hooked on watching these reaction videos. Seeing all these people react in almost the exact same way I did, people all across the world, is pretty god damn fascinating.

 

[raphier]

I'm convinced the show will reach the point where everybody who appeared in the first episode will be either dead or permanently removed from the plot somehow.

Then the episode kind of fits. If we assume everyone to be dead, it kind of looks like afterlife gathering. Would make a good series ending actually.

Spoiler

Paging Lost

 

[F-Pina]

I know, I was devastated. What's the point of watching then if you don't get emotionally involved? It's what taps into our humanity.

I don't watch just because it's the 'cool' show etc.

Watching these reaction vids, one thing is clear. The book readers knew about this episode and what will happen all this time.

Every single post about speculation, and battles at Casterly Rock, about how the North has a chance, how the Lannisters would lose. They always knew it to be not true.

I wonder how much else they know, about what's yet to come. I couldn't imagine knowing what would happen to Ned, people like Renly, seeing Lord Mormont get betrayed, what happens to Robb, his wife and his mom, and still want to keep watching. I almost don't want to watch today's episode. It's like the joy was all sucked out last week.

I don't think anything else can really shock me anymore. The damage has been done. I couldn't imagine having read the books all those years ago and then watching and waiting for this scene to come.

For those who have read the books (like me and my girlfriend) watching knowing it was coming was a bit weird. I was nervous because I knew. On the other hand I know what happens in the next books and, since I read them all, I have to wait for George to do his magic.

Since I have to wait I might as well see a great TV show about the books I enjoyed so much. That's why I watch. As an extra I also get to see stuff fleshed out, like the dragons, cities, people, etc.

P.S. I actually started with the 1st season on TV and then only afer that I read the books.

 

[Dany]

Man this is heart breaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9LeaJQQ5g (forward to 7:40)

That's devastating

 

[Exterminieren]

At that rate it seems hard to imagine the series NOT outpacing the books. I wonder if GRRM would actually allow the showrunners to spoil what he has planned for the 7th book before he can get it out there, or if he doesn't have any say in the matter.

He signed a contract allowing HBO to adapt his works. He has no say in how that adaptation goes. They're respectful enough to allow him to write certain episodes and to have some input, but he wouldn't have a leg to stand on were he to try and halt the TV series because of his own inefficient writing.

 

[Lothar]

That's more devastating to watch than the actual episode.

Am I the only one who feels weird seeing all these people have such strong reactions to a tv show any piece of fictional media? I have never felt anywhere close to that level of emotional investment.

Watching all of these reaction videos, it's weird to me how fictional media is able to do this to people. Including myself. I was just as devastated when I read it. What's weird to me isn't the emotional investment, it's the power of stories. They actually make people convinced that what they're seeing/reading is happening to real people. That's incredible.

 

[marrec]

He might speed up now that he actually has a firm schedule to race against.

We can only hope.

Well if the Patriots start missing the playoffs then he'll have a lot more time to actually write books instead of watching football.

 

[kellycandthedragons]

I know, I was devastated. What's the point of watching then if you don't get emotionally involved? It's what taps into our humanity.

I don't watch just because it's the 'cool' show etc.

Watching these reaction vids, one thing is clear. The book readers knew about this episode and what will happen all this time.

Every single post about speculation, and battles at Casterly Rock, about how the North has a chance, how the Lannisters would lose. They always knew it to be not true.

I wonder how much else they know, about what's yet to come. I couldn't imagine knowing what would happen to Ned, people like Renly, seeing Lord Mormont get betrayed, what happens to Robb, his wife and his mom, and still want to keep watching. I almost don't want to watch today's episode. It's like the joy was all sucked out last week.

I don't think anything else can really shock me anymore. The damage has been done. I couldn't imagine having read the books all those years ago and then watching and waiting for this scene to come.

You're over-dramatic. Stop looking to entertainment to "tap into our humanity," and do it by going out and doing something meaningful with your time. It's a good story and that's why people could know it was coming and still look forward to it, or want to continue on with the story. They're fictional characters in a fictional world meant to tell a story and that story was never primarily about the Starks. That is clear when you consider we're only 3 seasons in and the war we thought would run the course of the show is nearly over. The point of watching if you don't get emotionally involved is that you get to experience a world that's not your own and watch these people live their lives in it. And it's not even a lack of emotional involvement. It's just not being so ridiculous as to take the successes and failures of these fictional people so personally. That, I think, is the real issue people who want to quit have. The fact that on a subconscious level we are taking cues about our own world from the world of these characters. So when you can't see any good in the characters in the story, it starts to make you remember that you often feel that way in real life. The mind rejects this feeling, because the mistake was made of entering the world to escape (impossible in the first place, short of suicide. Which is generally not a nice thing), with the assumption that justice would be done and wrongs would be righted and good shall prevail in an effort to reassure yourself that the same could happen in our world.

I probably sound very heartless when I talk about people who don't want to continue with the show, but I really think we care too much about entertainment and expect too much from it. Why can't we just sit back and appreciate a good story? Why do the good guys have to ultimately prevail? Why does the story have to affect us emotionally? Why do we feel we need to be able to write a dissertation on the themes present or the use of the color beige?

With that said, I understand not wanting to watch on the grounds that the violence and nudity are just becoming too much. But quitting because you (the general you, not you specifically) can't see any hope for the characters or you want to be able to safely latch onto mortal characters is inane, to me. It's almost as bad as that guy at Otakuassemble criticizing the moment Jon revealed his allegiance as underwhelming just because it didn't happen in some big battle.

 

[Jibbajabbawockky]

Well if the Patriots start missing the playoffs then he'll have a lot more time to actually write books instead of watching football.

Patriots? Pretty sure GRRM is a Jets fan, not a Pats fan.


So he has no excuse.

 

[Kave_Man]

Bah! I think I got slightly spoiled by some of my friends who have read the book.

I say slightly because it's speculation they have after reading everything so far so it's not proven as yet but it also spoils me a bit as it let me know some characters that are still around.

Still won't ruin my enjoyment though but now I have one thing to really think about.

 

[tauroxd]

You're over-dramatic. Stop looking to entertainment to "tap into our humanity," and do it by going out and doing something meaningful with your time. It's a good story and that's why people could know it was coming and still look forward to it, or want to continue on with the story. They're fictional characters in a fictional world meant to tell a story and that story was never primarily about the Starks. That is clear when you consider we're only 3 seasons in and the war we thought would run the course of the show is nearly over. The point of watching if you don't get emotionally involved is that you get to experience a world that's not your own and watch these people live their lives in it. And it's not even a lack of emotional involvement. It's just not being so ridiculous as to take the successes and failures of these fictional people so personally. That, I think, is the real issue people who want to quit have. The fact that on a subconscious level we are taking cues about our own world from the world of these characters. So when you can't see any good in the characters in the story, it starts to make you remember that you often feel that way in real life. The mind rejects this feeling, because the mistake was made of entering the world to escape (impossible in the first place, short of suicide. Which is generally not a nice thing), with the assumption that justice would be done and wrongs would be righted and good shall prevail in an effort to reassure yourself that the same could happen in our world.

I probably sound very heartless when I talk about people who don't want to continue with the show, but I really think we care too much about entertainment and expect too much from it. Why can't we just sit back and appreciate a good story? Why do the good guys have to ultimately prevail? Why does the story have to affect us emotionally? Why do we feel we need to be able to write a dissertation on the themes present or the use of the color beige?

With that said, I understand not wanting to watch on the grounds that the violence and nudity are just becoming too much. But quitting because you (the general you, not you specifically) can't see any hope for the characters or you want to be able to safely latch onto mortal characters is inane, to me. It's almost as bad as that guy at Otakuassemble criticizing the moment Jon revealed his allegiance as underwhelming just because it didn't happen in some big battle.

As much as I agree with you with every little word and letter you said, Kelly C, it's important to know that we all don't function the same way... Some people really get into things with pasion and they simple can't help it.

But hey, you are pretty much right in that last paragraph. I relly was shocked when I read that chapter in the book back then but I just wanted to know the aftermath and what little GRRM had in store for me next so I just continued to read the books because they all are amazing and tell a very good story.

 

[kellycandthedragons]

As much as I agree with you with every little word and letter you said, Kelly C, it's important to know that we all don't function the same way... Some people really get into things with pasion and they simple can't help it.

But hey, you are pretty much right in that last paragraph. I relly was shocked when I read that chapter in the book back then but I just wanted to know the aftermath and what little GRRM had in store for me next so I just continued to read the books because they all are amazing and tell a very good story.

This is true. A lesson that it takes many people a lifetime to learn and I occasionally forget. I just personally will never understand.

 

[Madness]

This is true. A lesson that it takes many people a lifetime to learn and I occasionally forget. I just personally will never understand.

If you don't understand it, then you're not qualified to speak as if you know it for fact. Who the fuck are you to tell me whether I'm over dramatic or that I'm taking things too seriously or that I can't empathize with fictional characters. Fictional means what? If I'm watching a movie based on a real life person, and I connect to the character on a personal level, does it make a difference that this was a real person's life?

It is escapism. And you are right, you won't understand. Because we view things differently.

 

[Speevy]

Guys...

 

[Liquid Helium]

About the Melisandre dicussion on the last page: I actually think the opposite to you guys, I think she not a fraud and probably more powerful than we know, if she can make shadow assassins and drink poison and use leech magic and maybe resurrect the dead who knows what else she can do. Also, if Daenerys finally makes it to westeros with her dragons, what are they going to do against Stannis/Melisandres army? Breath fire on them? Surely Melisandre can do something about that.

 

[Nameless]

What I don't get is people sticking with the show after Eddard's death but quitting because of Robb and Cat's. The fuck is that? Nothing against them, but I'd kill off Cat a thousand times over and Robb a few thousand times more if it meant getting good ole' Ned back.

And not for nothing but this also frees up time for more interesting characters & story lines. I need more Thoros and B.W.B. in my life.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

About the Melisandre dicussion on the last page: I actually think the opposite to you guys, I think she not a fraud and probably more powerful than we know, if she can make shadow assassins and drink poison and use leech magic and maybe resurrect the dead who knows what else she can do. Also, if Daenerys finally makes it to westeros with her dragons, what are they going to do against Stannis/Melisandres army? Breath fire on them? Surely Melisandre can do something about that.

I don't see why Dany can't just co-opt the red god for her own army. Her best defense right now is nobody is thinking about her though.

 

[EatChildren]

What I don't get is people sticking with the show after Eddard's death but quitting because of Robb and Cat's. The fuck is that? Nothing against them, but I'd kill off Cat a thousand times over and Robb a few thousand times more if it meant getting good ole' Ned back.

I don't know how many people will stick to their initial "FUCK THIS SHIT" outrage. The greatest accomplishment any form of art can make is to emotionally resonate with people and make them feel something. Emotions are like a drug. A lot of viewers felt something big in the last episode, and they'll be back for the next one, and the season after, because deep down they know it's good shit.

For every thought of frustration in seeing Robb's massive story arc come to such a tragic conclusion, there's a counter thought knowing that every other major plot thread has just as much potential for shit to get real. And that's what makes it worth watching.

 

[Showaddy]

About the Melisandre dicussion on the last page: I actually think the opposite to you guys, I think she not a fraud and probably more powerful than we know, if she can make shadow assassins and drink poison and use leech magic and maybe resurrect the dead who knows what else she can do. Also, if Daenerys finally makes it to westeros with her dragons, what are they going to do against Stannis/Melisandres army? Breath fire on them? Surely Melisandre can do something about that.

She obviously has some strong magical abilities but it's the whole blessings of the Lord of Light that I find dodgy. I mean what exactly is the difference between Melisandre and the Walocks in Qarth apart from who the claim their power comes from? It's just magic dressed up by a cult as a way of controlling people to me.

 

[Blader]

What I don't get is people sticking with the show after Eddard's death but quitting because of Robb and Cat's. The fuck is that? Nothing against them, but I'd kill off Cat a thousand times over and Robb a few thousand times more if it meant getting good ole' Ned back.

And not for nothing but this also frees up time for more interesting characters & story lines. I need more Thoros and B.W.B. in my life.

Because Robb's death involves killing Robb AND taking away revenge for Ned's death. When Ned died, you knew you could get satisfaction in the future from his family avenging him. Robb dying takes away the certainty of getting that satisfaction.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

About the Melisandre dicussion on the last page: I actually think the opposite to you guys, I think she not a fraud and probably more powerful than we know, if she can make shadow assassins and drink poison and use leech magic and maybe resurrect the dead who knows what else she can do. Also, if Daenerys finally makes it to westeros with her dragons, what are they going to do against Stannis/Melisandres army? Breath fire on them? Surely Melisandre can do something about that.

Clearly they team up to fuck up the white walkers, Dany marries Stannis, ends the war before it starts.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Because Robb's death involves killing Robb AND taking away revenge for Ned's death. When Ned died, you knew you could get satisfaction in the future from his family avenging him. Robb dying takes away the certainty of getting that satisfaction.

Also, Ned's death was sort of expected, the way things were going. ALSO, I think a lot of people, including myself, we're already spoiled as to his death. (It was the ONE thing I knew about the series going into it).

Not to say people are justified with all their histrionics on this, though. That's crazy talk.

 

[Speevy]

Both Ned's death and Robb's follow a series of lessons on the cost of honor.

-Ned's admission that he was responsible for taking Tyrion into custody.
-Call for Tywin to answer the charges against Gregor Clegaine
-Refusal to take Renly's help and arrest the Lannisters
-Belief that the paper Robert signed on his death bed would give Ned the throne.
-Belief that a false confession would save his own life and reunite him with his family.

among dozens of others.

Then you have Robb

-Unwillingness to torture prisoners
-Belief that a loveless marriage was no marriage at all
-Had to kill Rickard Karstark to send a message to his own men.



The show presents no king who won his power honorably, yet the Starks still live by principle, and die as a result.

 

[Cyan]

Why does the story have to affect us emotionally?

I don't know about the rest, but this I can answer: that's what stories do. That's what stories are. Vehicles to deliver emotional experiences.

 

[kellycandthedragons]

Because Robb's death involves killing Robb AND taking away revenge for Ned's death. When Ned died, you knew you could get satisfaction in the future from his family avenging him. Robb dying takes away the certainty of getting that satisfaction.

It was no more certain then than it is now. There are still Starks left. They may be children, but Varys said a small man[or woman] can cast a very large shadow. Plus, I mentioned a bit back that I doubt the only northern houses are Karstark, Stark, Bolton, Umber, Mormont, and Glover (short mention in season 1). We saw the Karstarks and Boltons betray them, not the other three, plus the unnamed houses that may exist. According to the viewers guide, the Mormonts have been loyal to the Starks ever since they won the Mormont's island in a wrestling match. If they've been loyal that long over something so trivial, I doubt they betrayed them. From the preview,

Spoiler

there seems to be widespread destruction after the wedding. The Starks won't be the only ones hit hard by this event. They WILL be out for blood.

 

[EatChildren]

Ned and Robb didn't want to play the game and stuck to wishy washy concepts of honour that they almost never took the time to sit down and think about.

They were really "good people" who meant well for all. But just because you don't want to play the game doesn't mean you're out of it. The game exists whether you like it or not, and you're in. If you think you're not playing, you're really just a bad player.

Ned couldn't grasp the bigger picture of the iron throne politics, ironic for a man who helped lead a treasonous rebellion to dethrone the existing ruling. Robb was an excellent soldier who thought the best of the realm, yet like his father a terrible politician who thought good deeds and positive thoughts would lead him to victory.

They both died because other people were better played. You lose, good day to you sirs.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

How long does it take to create a novel for an average writer, and how much does it take for GRRM to get one out?

The last two books are gigantic as well. Something like a planned 1500 page monster for each? Plus he seems to do a lot of revising and things like that. With the volume of POV he has to write and correlate, him writing fast is probably still slow to an average writer. It also depends on the genre I'm sure. James Patterson seems to be able to write his lackluster mystery novels quickly.

I would assume all the praise and inevitable increase in readership has motivated him more. At least I hope so. I'll have to wait even longer for the audio books, which I love so much.

 

[Mario007]

It was no more certain then than it is now. There are still Starks left. They may be children, but Varys said a small man[or woman] can cast a very large shadow. Plus, I mentioned a bit back that I doubt the only northern houses are Karstark, Stark, Bolton, Umber, Mormont, and Glover (short mention in season 1). We saw the Karstarks and Boltons betray them, not the other three, plus the unnamed houses that may exist. According to the viewers guide, the Mormonts have been loyal to the Starks ever since they won the Mormont's island in a wrestling match. If they've been loyal that long over something so trivial, I doubt they betrayed them. From the preview,

Spoiler

there seems to be widespread destruction after the wedding. The Starks won't be the only ones hit hard by this event. They WILL be out for blood.

And who will lead them? This is a Renly situation all over, you kill the leader and the army goes back home. When Ned died you had Robb saying in the very next episode 'I will kill them all', just after completely owning Jamie's army so you believed him. Robb was doing well to avenge Ned and you could see the revenge coming.

But who will avenge Robb and Cat? None of the characters are strong enough, important enough or hell even grown up enough to do that. So any sort of revenge won't come for years. And that applies for Robb, Cat and Ned. With the Red Wedding our hopes of seeing Joffrey pay for what he did to Ned are pretty much gone for at least a couple of seasons. Also the wedding resolves the biggest plot-arc on the show right now- the North's rebellion, so many people don't even know what direction the show will head.

 

[User 100115]

I don't know about the rest, but this I can answer: that's what stories do. That's what stories are. Vehicles to deliver emotional experiences.

This. If the story isn't affecting you emotionally, than the writer is doing something wrong.

 

[kellycandthedragons]

And who will lead them? This is a Renly situation all over, you kill the leader and the army goes back home. When Ned died you had Robb saying in the very next episode 'I will kill them all', just after completely owning Jamie's army so you believed him. Robb was doing well to avenge Ned and you could see the revenge coming.

But who will avenge Robb and Cat? None of the characters are strong enough, important enough or hell even grown up enough to do that. So any sort of revenge won't come for years. And that applies for Robb, Cat and Ned. With the Red Wedding our hopes of seeing Joffrey pay for what he did to Ned are pretty much gone for at least a couple of seasons. Also the wedding resolves the biggest plot-arc on the show right now- the North's rebellion, so many people don't even know what direction the show will head.

It sounds weird, but there are people who could lead them. Jon could lead them. Who's at the wall to hold him to his oath? Bran can lead them by warging into another person, one that's stronger and can walk. Tyrion can lead them, as he is now Lord of Winterfell. I don't think that last one is likely, but it's still possible, as we know he doesn't agree with the way his family does things sometimes.

Or, and this is a long shot, Stannis could lead them. If he really cares so much about what his duty and what is his by rights, he should make sure that this injustice doesn't stand. If he is legitimate and not just a whiny little kid angry that nobody wants to play with him, he will take it upon himself to go to them and tell them to join him in fighting the people who did this to them. This is a HUGE violation of everything he holds dear. The proper treatment of guests, the duty that a host has to them, the loyalty to your superiors...if he really cares about "great or small, we must do our duty" he will recognize that part of his duty as rightful king is to handle shit like this and deal out justice. Unfortunately, and this is why I say it's a long shot, I think Melisandre will move him away from that. She will try telling him that he has more important things to do. But maybe he will try to argue with her and say that this could be the battle in the snow he saw. Fighting the Boltons alongside the other northerners.

There are people left to lead them. The story can go anywhere now.

 

[Madness]

This. If the story isn't affecting you emotionally, than the writer is doing something wrong.

Shhhh, we're just being over dramatic and need to get out once in a while...