I've heard the name crazy buttocks on a train mentioned on at least two pod casts prior to this week. He (or she) is not flying under the radar.
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I've heard the name crazy buttocks on a train mentioned on at least two pod casts prior to this week. He (or she) is not flying under the radar.
You know, I liked the Zune and Windows 7, and thought the first Xbox was okay, but I hope the Xbone crashes and burns. Loading the system with DRM believing it would help the console take flight is like filling the Hindenburg with hydrogen gas. It's not about the company, it's about what's best for the future of games.
I was thinking this too.
Oh man, imagine if you could ONLY save to the cloud. "Sure you can play games offline... you can play games without a memory card too!"
No, that's too crazy even for them.
I think CBOAT needs to be very careful. If they feed him wrong information on purpose (nothing of great value, for example a game being exclusive, etc.), and CBOAT blows whistle for this specific wrong information, he could instantly be caught (or his source(s) inside if he isn't at MS)
Puppet Shadow
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So we're in agreement that when Microsoft does it, it's 'payola', when Sony does it, it's 'silly'. False equivalence indeed.
As a mostly PC gamer, I've spent years watching publishers say things like 'We have no announcement at this time' when asked if their game is coming to PC. The publishers want you to buy the more expensive console version when the games released, thinking you might not ever get the PC version... and when that version comes out it will sell to PC only gamers, and those that will double dip. No different here. You could also ask yourself what is more despicable, offering a bribe, or accepting one. Blame the pubs just as much (or more) at least.
Seriously, all sides do this. The problem is when you dismiss or excuse one side, and not the other. Kind of like saying one console maker was smart enough to secure the rights to a game, but the other one must have used moneyhats. Same thing.
Wait, I totally got off topic. Sorry, going to bed now.
I don't get it either. So you get a bit of false press for what, a week at most?
Baller. PhD
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Yeah I don't get the garbled l33t speak. Clearly GAF is perused regularly by people at these companies, it's not like this is some dark corner of the Internet. He might as well just type coherently!
Also, fuck Microsoft.
Also, fuck Microsoft.
And here I was thinking that this was the "evil" publisher's idea. So fucking wrong. I can't believe MS is courting 3rd parties with something like this.
Paying not to mention PS4 versions, Cloud just because of DRM, lying about rental, spyware Kinect, PRISM... I am beyond disgusted. MS sounds like something that came out of Orwell's book.
But it is false equivalence.
The Sony-Rockstar deal was a result from Sony giving L.A. Noire up and getting an exclusive game in return.
That deal is most likely dead, as Rockstar probably just paid the contract breach fee.
The better comparison is Sony-Ubisoft and Assassin's Creed 1.
Your overall point is correct though.
As someone as said before, even if this gains attention and people translate what he says, it still doesn't make it very easy to trace to who Cboat is. Type coherently, and they'll exploit the shit out of any idiosyncrasies in his writing to track him/her(?) down.
AcceptableGhost
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my balls, my world
god tier
god tier
Eh, maybe it isn't for real afterall.
Although given this infodump a downclock is the least of our concerns. What's the worst that happens, reliably 30/60 FPS PS4 version and somewhat better PC ports for awhile?
Monty Mole
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Yes, that's exactly my point. Well done.
Metalmurphy
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I'm gonna hate this new generation sofreaking much...
That wasn't his rumor
Purportedly, Miyazaki gave up control voluntarily so that the series wouldn't stagnate. He said that he would stay on as a supervisor of Dark Souls 2 for quality control reasons though. But in a few of the recent threads, a lot of Demon/Dark Soul purists were bemoaning some of the artistic flourishes the new directors Tanimura and Shibuya were giving to the armor sets. So take that news as you will. The thread was getting really heated so I decided to leave before it went off the rails.
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Bernie Stolar was given a losing hand and told by SoJ to bluff his way to a jackpot. There are two ways to make money on a console, direct profit from each console sold and profit from attach rate of titles to each sold console. The Saturn was dragging the company down with just the manufacturing costs of each unit, and this was at a $100 premium over the more popular Playstation. And there was no way they could increase the attach rate of the console. I mean he made some bad calls also, but he wasn't the entire reason that the Saturn ran a distant third to Nintendo and Sony.
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We're not getting a repeat of SEGA's final systems here. Microsoft has enough capital to buy their way into at least a mediocre second place.
Neither does Ubisoft. They've seen the sales reports for the last few titles.
I think he meant "my balls, my word".
As in his balls are on the line if he's wrong. His word is his bond, etc.
family_guy
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Anyone think they will make your game saves be stored in the cloud mandatory and there will be no game saves stored on your hard drive?
Just so most of you understand: Sony hasn't confirmed it's DRM moves because it was waiting for Microsoft to make its move.
It's not about Sony not doing what Microsoft is doing, it's about Sony marketing PlayStation 4 in the heat of Microsoft's DRM announcements and used games moves.
There's a saying "the calm before the storm."
Why would a company not pounce on such horrible PR moves? Because Microsoft isn't scared to take the public relations hits, and Sony can't afford too.
They're going to be taking HUGE finical risk with the PlayStation 4. It's the reason why Microsoft is spending money to manage public reception towards its device because it knows Sony didn't want to take hit.
It's not about Sony not doing what Microsoft is doing, it's about Sony marketing PlayStation 4 in the heat of Microsoft's DRM announcements and used games moves.
There's a saying "the calm before the storm."
Why would a company not pounce on such horrible PR moves? Because Microsoft isn't scared to take the public relations hits, and Sony can't afford too.
They're going to be taking HUGE finical risk with the PlayStation 4. It's the reason why Microsoft is spending money to manage public reception towards its device because it knows Sony didn't want to take hit.
No info but that doesnt mean its true/false. Every GAF source has confirmed issues with ESRAM, the decision of downclock could be taken post E3 as well.
Graphics Horse
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I didn't notice it said world. I must be learning to speak buttocks.
This is the PERFECT analogy.
Although, I do also see sense to the theory that "they" send out rumours of bad features, then reveal slightly less bad details which are bad in and of themselves, but since they aren't as bad as the original rumour, they get somewhat of a free pass.
That's how we got to where we are today, horse armour onwards.
I've never heard of the clam before the storm, but I like it
Much more subtle than giant crabs thats for sure.
travisbickle
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Yep, you've got it kid. MS was willing to take the PR hit for both themselves and Sony. Now what were you saying about clams? I'm hungry.
Sounded like he was kind of forced to, but I guess if they just stressed they felt this was best he'd agree and sign off. And that artwork was outsourced, right? I'm hoping when filtered through From either it comes out better or is limited to special sets rather than being the design norm like we saw with something like Fire Emblem Awakening.
True, that was a convoluted system and I can see it being one they COULDN'T make cheap easily. They were doomed from the moment they thought releasing by surprised at $400 was a good idea. I do wish fewer niche games had to suffer (though at the same time SCEA could've had nicer damn policies.)
I do wonder, I know we won't see a repeat of what happened with SEGA or at least not for the same reasons, but more likely I'd see it being like Zune or at an extreme Kin, where something completely fails to take off and they just cut their losses. But I kind of expect just CoD fans buying the system by default could give it a steady foothold to at least have a few million systems even at worst, at that point we'd just have to hope Microsoft considered it a waste of resources and bails, even if they could stubbornly stick around if they really felt like it.
I'm not surprised to see it as a commonly coined term. Almost makes me want to take a cliff notes version of marketing 101 just to help pick out the obvious scams in general advertising.
Edit: Wait, did you seriously just imply that MS willingly took a massive PR hit as a favor to Sony?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Interesting stuff, some of the most useful stuff my otherwise worthless degree covered.
Psychological Compliance Wikipedia page
It doesn't, it says wordd.
I'm hoping that the boiling frog experiment reflects what really happens there, that in the end we really DO see it as being "too hot" and are jumping out.
But given what Microsoft was rumored to do and announced THAT analogy probably works better, and holds truer. Even I have to admit that if it was just straight up neither would allow used games but allowed full offline play, binding to an account if you had an internet connection, etc... I would've refused if that was the starting point, or at least grudgingly accepted it later in a generation if it gained traction and wouldn't be shaken off. But now Microsoft's come in with all this dialing home, possibly "always online ANYWAY for the cloud" crap I actually AM more receptive to the former, though I don't see Microsoft doing it at this point. They want to ride the cloud for all its worth, whereas Sony may yet still be reasonable even if implementing DRM.
this makes sense, shamefully.
Companies can compare your internal email and writings to your forum posts, talking like a drunken idiot who fell asleep on the keyboard prevents that.
It's not l33t speak, it's "can't catch me bitchayes" speak.
Ryan and Jeff also predicting Dead Rising 3 to appear at the MS conference.
http://mixlr.com/jeff-gerstmann/2-minutes-to-midnight
http://mixlr.com/jeff-gerstmann/2-minutes-to-midnight
Hot damn. They actually used his unabbreviated name and everything. Guess the scoop was too good to pass up.
Not quite lite reading, but thanks for the link.
This is getting ridiculous. Why is Microsoft doing a favor to Sony? What about Nintendo?
Which ones are these? Bombcast?
Sony might just believe they would make more money not following in MS's path. As it stands right now it seems lots of people are ready to give Sony their gaming dollars.
Miss.Selfdestruct
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I feel the same. But it's odd how it all makes sense after a second read through 0_o
It really can go either way, frustratingly. I just have to hope "no news is good news" holds instead, or my guess about using it as a weapon against Microsoft pans out.
fallingdove
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Holy shit Cboat you are awesome. Perfect timing by the way - I hope this thread stays alive throughout the day today to remind everyone how deep the bullshit goes.
It's funny, I went from eagerly anticipating the Xbone release to loathing it's existence to where I am now - not wanting to support any future MS products. I really hope the Xbone bombs.
It's funny, I went from eagerly anticipating the Xbone release to loathing it's existence to where I am now - not wanting to support any future MS products. I really hope the Xbone bombs.
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