Do you like what you've seen so far from Wii U's visuals?
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Outtrigger888
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IF YOU CAN watch the highest quality videos on the eshop.
It makes a difference, especially with sm3dw. It looks amazing, especially the tree/grass textures.
It makes a difference, especially with sm3dw. It looks amazing, especially the tree/grass textures.
Projectjustice
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Your problem is called exaggerating.
lunchwithyuzo
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Seems you're right. Just Windows, PS3, Vita, Wii U and PS4. Stranger's Wrath HD is also getting a Wii U port now too.
I never expected Mario Kart 8 to look this good considering all past Mario Kart games were kinda underwhelming (graphics wise) compared to other games on the same platform.
I'm perfectly fine with what the Wii U can do with what we've seen so far. It might not be up there with PS4/Xbox One, but it's not that far behind either. At least its not another "Wii situation" again.
I'm perfectly fine with what the Wii U can do with what we've seen so far. It might not be up there with PS4/Xbox One, but it's not that far behind either. At least its not another "Wii situation" again.
Nightstick11
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X looked better than any Xbone game I saw and better than almost every PS4 game
This is true. Since the announcement of the Wii U a couple of years ago I was excited of seeing that Nintendo art and color in HD.
Now we're seeing just the beginning of it and it already looks phenomenal!
No, not even close.
Yeah, the issue isn't visuals, it's development time.
Seriously, the delusion of some people. I don't understand how they're seeing what they think they're seeing.
Poimandres
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The other mistake a lot of people are making here is in directly comparing launch titles for the Xbone and PS4 to second generation Wii U titles.
Remember leading up the Wii U launch when people said it wasn't fair to compare Wii U launch titles to PS3/360? Or when the PS3 launched and wasn't up to par with the best the 360 had to offer? The same thing applies here.
Wii U titles should look a lot better in the years to come... but so will PS4/Xbone titles.
Still, I think Nintendo knows their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the best visual approach. They've got the cartoony look down to a fine art, especially with these games running at 1080p 60fps. SMG was one of the most attractive games last gen, so Nintendo games should stand up just fine.
Remember leading up the Wii U launch when people said it wasn't fair to compare Wii U launch titles to PS3/360? Or when the PS3 launched and wasn't up to par with the best the 360 had to offer? The same thing applies here.
Wii U titles should look a lot better in the years to come... but so will PS4/Xbone titles.
Still, I think Nintendo knows their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the best visual approach. They've got the cartoony look down to a fine art, especially with these games running at 1080p 60fps. SMG was one of the most attractive games last gen, so Nintendo games should stand up just fine.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Are you sure XV is not open world? Looked like it to me.
Nightstick11
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What even came close? Asides from FFXV?
Barack Lesnar
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It's basically them latching onto something and blowing it up due to how disappointing E3 was. It's a great way to downplay the next-gen consoles and their capabilities while making the Wii U look better. Some of these opinions might be legitimate, but most of them are influenced by that.
Really? It looked like a linear action game almost. I'll have to watch it again.
Just about every game looked better.
metalslimer
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Witcher 3 for the closes comparison
FFXV is actually one of the worst looking next gen games because its a PS3 upport. The Division looks signficantly better along with Metal Gear Solid 5.
bgassassin
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Good catch as I didn't pay attention to that and focused on other details. The thing is we haven't seen the Xbox One version unless it was shown recently and I missed it. We've seen PC and PS4, and PS4's demos have the Dualshock context buttons. I don't see that being the Xbox One version.
Immature development environment.
Thanks for the proper context. I guess it's a timed exclusive then. That's the only thing I can think of.
qa_engineer
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Wii fit trainer character ftw.
Really wish someone could record them from the E-shop.
Price Drop
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Wii U had more 60 frames-per-second titles than PS4 or Xbox One. I'm surprised the Nintendo Direct Video compressed the reels down to 30.
Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, and Zelda WW HD all 60 frames. Bayonetta 2 looked amazing. Super detailed and 60 frames without a hitch. Also, Smash Bros. was 60.
Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, and Zelda WW HD all 60 frames. Bayonetta 2 looked amazing. Super detailed and 60 frames without a hitch. Also, Smash Bros. was 60.
TreasureHunterG
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Good to see the positive reaction about WiiU's graphics after all the hate and trolling from haters and fanboys.
Indeed, not a Wii situation again and the difference between PS4/Xbox One isn't really that big.
Indeed, not a Wii situation again and the difference between PS4/Xbox One isn't really that big.
Gucci Messiah
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I hope you're referring to art direction and not visual fidelity. If you think X looks better graphically than a game like Watch Dogs, Final Fantasy XV, Killzone Shadow Fall or The Division, you're delusional. Or blind.
shinobi602
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Whoa...
X looks great. Xenoblade looked amazing for being on the Wii, so I have high hopes for X.
Honestly though, it will be hard to judge any of these until we see them in full resolution. YouTube videos don't really show off IQ problems...if any of these are running at 720p with little AA, it could greatly impact the visual quality.
Honestly though, it will be hard to judge any of these until we see them in full resolution. YouTube videos don't really show off IQ problems...if any of these are running at 720p with little AA, it could greatly impact the visual quality.
I acknowledge that I'm probably in the minority here, and also that my feelings and subsequent response aren't really in the spirit of the question. That said, I've been pretty much living off of my 3DS lately. The games I've spent the most time with lately are Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, Mario Kart 7, and just a little bit of Animal Crossing. These graphics are perfectly fine to me, and they aren't even the best looking stuff on the system. The games are pretty, if not overly detailed. But, mostly, what the 3DS is capable is enough (although there are certainly some instances where a low res texture is zoomed in on, or something equally unfortunate). The only concern I really have with the 3DS is it's ability to do large worlds and vast, open spaces.
Watching PS4 and XB1 footage, I am not impressed by the graphics. Better graphics are just not that big of a deal anymore. The scope and draw distance is impressive, but when we're just talking about filling out the background, I really can't get that excited. Artstyle is the one thing that makes a game (visually) pop for me these days, although I must admit that really I'm getting more interested in systems and general gameplay and less interested in graphics and stories.
I acknowledge that what was shown for Wii U was less graphically impressive than what was shown on the High End Twins. But the Wii U games came across to me mostly as "we're going to use all the juice we can get out of this thing to make a fun game", not "we're going to make it BIG AND SHINY". I am really excited to play those Wii U games, because they look fun. They also look pretty. All three consoles look pretty. Wii U is pretty enough for me to not care about it, and so PS4 and XB1 are beyond the point of diminishing returns for me.
I do plan on getting a PS4 though, because yeah some of those games looked really fun. But if it's just more "cinematic" or more lifelike, I could not fucking care less about it.
Watching PS4 and XB1 footage, I am not impressed by the graphics. Better graphics are just not that big of a deal anymore. The scope and draw distance is impressive, but when we're just talking about filling out the background, I really can't get that excited. Artstyle is the one thing that makes a game (visually) pop for me these days, although I must admit that really I'm getting more interested in systems and general gameplay and less interested in graphics and stories.
I acknowledge that what was shown for Wii U was less graphically impressive than what was shown on the High End Twins. But the Wii U games came across to me mostly as "we're going to use all the juice we can get out of this thing to make a fun game", not "we're going to make it BIG AND SHINY". I am really excited to play those Wii U games, because they look fun. They also look pretty. All three consoles look pretty. Wii U is pretty enough for me to not care about it, and so PS4 and XB1 are beyond the point of diminishing returns for me.
I do plan on getting a PS4 though, because yeah some of those games looked really fun. But if it's just more "cinematic" or more lifelike, I could not fucking care less about it.
Nightstick11
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FFXV looked amazing to me. MGS was whatevs asides from the lighting. I will concede maybe the Division; but X made me jizz
Trevelyan9999
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If you are referring to just a tech point of view then "X" can only be considered marginally "not as good" as what the other consoles are showing. If you are talking about art direction, then yeah it's not even close.....X is far superior.
Bayonetta 2 looks phenomenal and it doesn't seem to be making the Wii U break a sweat at 60fps. I think games like Zelda and Metroid will look amazing on this console.
How many of those PS4 and Xbone games were running on actual hardware? How many were real gameplay?
They're clearly more equipt for the future but right now we haven't seen anything that completely outclasses Wii U and it's certainly not as dire as it was with the Wii. With all the talk of 8gig gddr5 and coding to the metal I've yet to see anything that beats recent PC games and I don't even have a particularly great gaming rig.
Honestly I agree with you on a lot of the games you posted, but second son is not one of them. That is probably one of the ugliest next gen games anyone showed.
IrishNinja
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i somehow agree with all 3 of these posts, yeah
while i don't think they at all look like butt i get what you're saying, and yeah, year 1 stuff traditionally gets much more of a pass. the 2014 year 2 stuff, i usually expect to step shit up
They look good. Quality textures, long draw distance, high poly counts, good particle effects, good lighting and shading.
When I compare MK 8 or X to PS4/X1, I don't go "Man, Wii U looks like garbage." It's not the same as Wii was with PS3-360.
Obviously PS4 is more powerful. I think U looks good though. MK 8, X, Bayo 2, DKCR 2, and so on have quality visuals that I'm eager to see and play.
When I compare MK 8 or X to PS4/X1, I don't go "Man, Wii U looks like garbage." It's not the same as Wii was with PS3-360.
Obviously PS4 is more powerful. I think U looks good though. MK 8, X, Bayo 2, DKCR 2, and so on have quality visuals that I'm eager to see and play.
Barack Lesnar
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What are these recent PC games? I read this often. The best looking PC games are upgraded 360/PS3 console ports. I've gamed on PC exclusively the last 4 years. Where are these games outside of Crysis 3 maxed out to oblivion? Nothing on PC looks better than The Division or The Order.
shinobi602
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I was hoping for some impressions from people who played the demo but this is something!
Yeah, I agree, the best of Wii U at least doesn't objectively look like garbage to me either. Its using "modern" hardware, albeit much lower performance than the competition.
It is.
Barack Lesnar
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That's incredible. Like what kind of open world... AC or fully open like GTA? Either one would be insane.
I'll do it tomorrow when I have more time. If someone else hasn't already.
Not trying to get in the back and forth argument with you guys, but I just have to mention that the fact that we're now arguing whether or not Wii U games look better than PS4/XB0 games says a lot. Yes, Wii U - the same console people not to long ago believed was even less capable than PS360.
I couldn't care less which way the discussion goes, I'm just relieved that we've finally made some actual progess.
For the record, it's quite obvious that Wii U is much less powerful than these new consoles. Still, some of these Wii U games can compete visually with all but the best looking PS4/XBO games. All those non-gameplay games don't even count as far as I'm concerned. How many games you guys consider to be in that category(best looking) is another discussion, but I think the Division and Final Fantasy XV are definitely there. They were much better looking than Wii U games.
Ironically, I think we've now embarked upon that time we all knew would come sooner or later. That is; once games on "platform A" cross certain visual threshold, it's not that big of a deal that games on "platform B" - during the same generation - look much better, as it doesn't change the fact the games on "Platform A" are still beautiful in comparison.
On another note, Bayonetta 2 and X can easily compete with any game out of E3 in terms of which games look most exciting. That counts for something, no?
I couldn't care less which way the discussion goes, I'm just relieved that we've finally made some actual progess.
For the record, it's quite obvious that Wii U is much less powerful than these new consoles. Still, some of these Wii U games can compete visually with all but the best looking PS4/XBO games. All those non-gameplay games don't even count as far as I'm concerned. How many games you guys consider to be in that category(best looking) is another discussion, but I think the Division and Final Fantasy XV are definitely there. They were much better looking than Wii U games.
Ironically, I think we've now embarked upon that time we all knew would come sooner or later. That is; once games on "platform A" cross certain visual threshold, it's not that big of a deal that games on "platform B" - during the same generation - look much better, as it doesn't change the fact the games on "Platform A" are still beautiful in comparison.
On another note, Bayonetta 2 and X can easily compete with any game out of E3 in terms of which games look most exciting. That counts for something, no?