Not to defend this, but I'm surprised the guys who run EVO don't check into this kind of thing beforehand. When you're running such a huge tournament, wouldn't it be a good idea to contact the companies that made the games to get permission and ensure there won't be any legal problems at the last minute? If they sent an email to Nintendo months ago this probably wouldn't be happening.
Nintendo of America not allowing SSBM to be streamed at EVO [Up: Decision Reversed]
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You mean good policies
Well If we wanna pull from the recent jar, they have decided to not treat indie devs like shit anymore. Though that says more about nintendo if that qualifies as a good policy
Didn't see this posted.
https://www.change.org/petitions/ni...bros-melee-to-be-streamed-at-evo-2013-2#share
https://www.change.org/petitions/ni...bros-melee-to-be-streamed-at-evo-2013-2#share
even one of those things happening would be so, so far beyond the capacity of Nintendo. I'm sorry you took the time to type any of those out
I can agree with this. I wasn't fully seeing your point in your earlier post.
I think I just put two and two together here.
Anyway it's a shame that Nintendo is doing this and I'd like to think the backlash will cause them to reconsider.
Couldn't have been said any better.
DragonSworne
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This is why Nintendo needs a new executive staff. These ideas are so foreign to Ninteno it's silly.
Fun fact: This was actually because DK64 was developed by Rare, a UK-based company, and in the UK "hell" isn't considered cursing. At least that's what I read somewhere.
Also, just to regurgitate what I said, I really don't think this is a good idea for Nintendo. I think boycotting is kind of extreme, but this really is one of the stupidest things NoA has done in a long time. I'd say it's stupider than region lock or certain not localizations, at least I think those have some business justifications.
Are you seriously arguing semantics with me there? "Positive policy" is a perfectly acceptable way of referring to the types of views and enforcements that I'm looking for.
I guess that's a good policy? Or maybe it's just a rectification of a shit policy? I think you need to dig a little deeper than that. If that's the one example you choose, then that's a big problem.
That would be me, but they barely make games I would be interested in these days. Mario Kart 8 and Pikmin 3 are the only in-house stuff from them I would like to play at the moment.
Is there such a thing as a pseudo-Nintendo fan?
The correct term is "lapsed Nintendo fan." Welcome to the party
mullet2000
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Hell is a swear word?
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Microsoft has done a 180 on many things and demonstrated an ability to listen to fans and feedback... even if only for the short term. Not comparable to Nintendo.
People have every real reason to be angry at them for this.
- The players that spent money getting their flights/transportation in order to play.
- The TOs that had to go and get CRTs and Gamecubes because of the game's age and needs.
- The breast cancer donators as they definitely brought it for the sake of seeing this become a reality.
- The donators to the other games that could have had Melee's stream time if Nintendo had made this declaration sooner and allowed people to either soften the blow or adjust properly.
Nothing about this is salvageable.
AnkiRendan
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Wow, Nintendo is seriously a bunch of douchebags. I can't believe they would do this.
It's too bad PASBR wasn't very good. At least Sony and Microsoft aren't tightwads about streaming.
It's too bad PASBR wasn't very good. At least Sony and Microsoft aren't tightwads about streaming.
Karsticles
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I don't know why you are quoting me and saying this. I have never said a bad thing about the NRS/MS presence at Evo. It's a good thing for companies to give money to Evo for their game to get displayed.
The only reason anyone was irritated about Injustice getting in was that Skullgirls got edged out by Smash Bros and was told "sorry, there's no more room for more games". Then NRS paid to get Injustice in. It's the fact that MrWizard was so disingenuous that frustrated people, not that NRS got their game in. Good on NRS, I say, but shame on MrWizard.
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Silent_Ocarina
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I know we're just voices on an Internet forum who probably have little to no experience, but sometimes, just for a moment, that some of us would do a better job managing this sort of thing than Nintendo is.
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Record a message or something then. Do any thing to show some goodwill. There are so many options. Capcom's had panels for this for divisive games like Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 where they basically cockteased a bunch of "this is what could have been in the game stuff". No one in the crowd started yelling or anything. People attending a stream aren't caged animals for the most part. Fearing for the slightest mishap rather than taking advantage of the much more likely positive outcomes is just so paranoid. Roll with the possible punches rather than giving people reasons to go berserk on you.
In a lot of circles, and in America it's frowned upon when around children like any other swear word.
Couldn't have been put any better. The company's leadership is impossibly out of touch.
Fourth Storm
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Nintendo probably think the high level play will intimidate casuals and they'll pass because they can never get that good. With Sakurai's recent comments, I am not sure they want the new Smash to be a competitive fighter.
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I bet it is chocked full of F-Zero, Star Fox, Wave Race and Metroid fans. Cream of the crop party goers there. Just make sure to keep alcohol away or half of us will be bawling like babies lol.The correct term is "lapsed Nintendo fan." Welcome to the party
For anyone with Twitter, just RT this post. That quote was too good not to get some spotlight in the midst of this mess.
nhlducks35
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trueest factoid
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Seems like they're going backwards. They had Conker's Bad Fur Day on N64. While not first party, Rare was extremely close to Nintendo and a lot of non-enthusiasts probably thought it was Nintendo themselves who made that game. It had tons of playful explicit content.
What do you call a person who enjoys Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/Smash and a good amount of the newer low profile IPs but also relates to this then?
God I'm such a unquantifiable entity sometimes.
maquiladora
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So out of touch.
Whiskeymatt
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Well that would just make too much sense.
Slamtastic
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I'm not saying you said bad things, just that the the previous complaint about EVO prior to this announcement, from multiple other people, was that a company paid for a dedicated stream and to have their up coming game/game content promoted.
Twenty7KVN
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That's not how you do things,especially when it comes to other companies games.You find out before hand and get it in writing,so situations like this can be avoided.
I'm half surprised this picture hasn't been posted more here, lol.
QuiteWhittle
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More like a footnote in a b-tier textbook.
I'm there with you man. Some of the things they do...SMH.
I agree, BUT like bon said above I think at the very least the people directly affected by this (registered players and people who donated) deserve clarification from the Evo staff on whether or not they cleared this back in January or February, which they absolutely should have. This whole situation reeks to me of Nintendo legal finding out last minute this was happening (which is already hilariously stupid, but I put nothing past them at this point) in the last few days. Not defending Nintendo here, but I think for the world's largest tournament the organizers should have been responsible enough to check on this immediately to make sure it was okay, especially with Nintendo pulling Smash from MLG, the whole Let's Play video issues, etc.
DragonSworne
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Someone with empathy... on the internet. Treasure and nurture it with the utmost care.
Wishmaster92
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Hahaha finally someone posts this.
the sad thing is, even with all that, "no" is giving them too much credit, they went way beyond "no"
Maybe for corporate social networking.