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Nintendo of America not allowing SSBM to be streamed at EVO [Up: Decision Reversed]
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lol, amazing.
Because it amounts to Nintendo saying they wish they had a different fanbase for Smash than the one they actually have. Of course those people are going to react to being treated that way.
Not a troll, they tend to replay a lot of old footage of stuff at past EVOs. That being said, the timing hurts.
Also every single other game there is being published by someone who is directly sponsoring the event (except Namco Bandai, but I'm pretty sure Namco does sponsor a lot of FGC events in general).
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All commentators really try their hardest to keep it as clean as possible. Even with this in mind, the risk-reward scale is heavily skewed towards the reward side if they were to go the Karticles route of doing things. The image they're maintaining now is that of the backwards old-timey geezer who think he always knows best, besides the world around him having adopted objectively better practices.
LMAO.
From 2008? I'm pretty sure this is deliberate, dude.
Haunted
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I think I've already seen more "Fuck You Nintendo" #freemelee twitter posts than there are Miiverse posts in general. :lol
It's extremely dangerous for a tech company to be so much behind the times like this, coming across like a boring dinosaur compared to the sleek, smart and attractive competition. Their image among western media is at an all-time low already. Things like this will only reinforce every negative notion people have about Nintendo.
Incredible that they allowed something like this to happen. Just incredible.
It's extremely dangerous for a tech company to be so much behind the times like this, coming across like a boring dinosaur compared to the sleek, smart and attractive competition. Their image among western media is at an all-time low already. Things like this will only reinforce every negative notion people have about Nintendo.
Incredible that they allowed something like this to happen. Just incredible.
DryEyeRelief
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If there are really that many, then you can name at least one off the top of your head from last year's broadcast right?
Nah, they've been replaying past evo stuff for a few days now, and they do this every year right before evo where they re-run streams and footage from previous years. They were showing some 2005 (?) stuff or older a couple of days ago.
APZonerunner
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The timing feels awfully deliberate!
Starfish Hero
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If there was a way to reject decisions like this without shitting on developers who have nothing to do with this I would. But the fact is that developers are rarely responsible for any issue you have with a company; the executives are. That's why I don't support game boycotts in cases like this: why punish the people doing their jobs because someone else is fucking up?
Pfft. NoA has been going downhill for years now.
Wow, did not know this. Makes this even more incredible really. Why shit on your biggest fans? Unbelievable.
DragonSworne
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Chie Satonaka
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I disagree. The entire Smash fanbase isn't that way. This isn't even addressing my question.
I'm speculating that Nintendo doesn't want the Smash brand to be associated with the possible (likely) shenanigans of Evolution, which isn't an unreasonable position to take. The vast majority of people who play this game aren't playing it in a setting like this.
Further, if they were doing what you're suggesting, they'd cancel the entire tournament all together, wouldn't they? They just don't want it streamed.
Lost Fragment
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There was a big Penny Arcade Report on Melle at Evo up today. They probably saw that.
Oh, alright. I can't believe that this is a coincidence, though.
Ultradavid went off on a bit of rant about copyright stifling innovation on the tweeters and is now presumably getting drunk in a bar somewhere, not unreasonably.
Tripping is gone, no?
NoA's been on the decline since 2007, at the earliest.
GetemMa
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This, so much this. Thank you.
This is Nintendo's treatment of its base over the past 5 years. They are so desperate to court the casuals that they will piss off the people who support them on day 1 at launch. What is sad is that they have failed to realize that those casuals have by and large moved on and what they have left is a base that feels more and more alienated. Operation Rainfall? Yeah great guys. Kudos for getting the games you wanted, but you shouldn't have had to do that. Big N has no faith in us and I am starting to lose faith in them.
Takamura-San
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holy shit.... uncle valle
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Really big chance of this being the case. I'm Belgian, and we have basically one big convention a year where friends of mine host tournaments. They're nowhere the scale of the larger FGC scene, but Smash Bros always gets the biggest turnout. People with highly varying ages compete and everyone generally has a good time. If my friends were to ask Nintendo they'd probably get the same treatment, which is bullshit. They're helping to nurture the love people have for this brand and instead of just letting them go about their ways they are now destroying those heartfelt efforts.
Edit: Wait, to be exact. Apart from this there have been large Smash Bros tournaments over here, which also draw a lot of Dutch players. Like I said, it's very rare for this sort of thing to exist here, but for Smash there definitely was a scene although I could never make it out to one of those events. I think they had 100+ people turnouts.
notworksafe
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They didn't let MLG stream it either, and they are the epitome of professionalism when it comes to this kind of thing.
What way? Buy a game on its own merits alone?
They played stuff from an earlier date than that
Sixfortyfive
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That is entirely an unreasonable position to take. EVO is about as sanitized as you can get.
I know petitions don't do much and since it has been last linked a bunch of pages ago I'll repost it: (i didn't make this petition before you ask)
https://www.change.org/petitions/ni...bros-melee-to-be-streamed-at-evo-2013-2#share
Already about 1,717 signatures.
https://www.change.org/petitions/ni...bros-melee-to-be-streamed-at-evo-2013-2#share
Already about 1,717 signatures.
MLG? Maybe, just maybe, Nintendo is actually the bad guy here.
The vast majority of people that could be offended by the shenanigans don't know nor care what EVO is.
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With the old ways I'm referring to the "Eww online and competition is icky" thing Nintendo is again displaying.
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Seriously?????
Not that like watching this game, hell im glad there'll be more KOF13 but...not like this
this fuckin company is so backwards.
Not that like watching this game, hell im glad there'll be more KOF13 but...not like this
this fuckin company is so backwards.
Chie Satonaka
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This is a fair point, and one I was unware of until you brought it up. That does make the whole situation much more questionable.
Hopefully they put out a statement. I'm really curious as to why they'd do this, if not for the reason I speculated.
Oh, I misundertand your post
, completely agree.
Refreshment.01
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Ya, this company keeps making the same type of mistakes over and over and over....
Some sacrifices are needed for progress to be made. Is not like talented individual like Sakurai won't:
-Find place in any other company.
-Have the chance to make another proyect within the same company even, if sales for the next Smash game don't meet the goals. Is not a cash cow that one renounces so easily.
The only tru4 saying you have is with your money, yet that consumer responsability is really hard to fullfil for most company followers. But let's leave this subject aside because believe me, most of the time some individuals don't really like to hear this.
Right, they do. I forgot to mention that.
Tathanen
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I bet you there won't be voice chat. But if there is, it'll be limited to friend matches. Nintendo gonna Nintendo.
This would explain a lot about Nintendo of America, specifically. NoE and NCL don't seem to have the same problem.
polyh3dron
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god dammit fuck you nintendo
Gamers are "geeks and otaku" who need to get bigger fridges.
Sad to say, they won't even bother to look at that. It's a lost cause
Isn't what way? Those are the most dedicated, passionate fans they have. They're saying that they don't want to be associated with them to the extent that they're using legal force to prevent them from streaming what they came together to raise $100,000 to pull off.
ArchedThunder
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In terms of releasing games and stuff, yeah, but the kind of bullshit they are pulling now with this and the Youtube stuff started after Iwata took over.
Karsticles
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How do you explain Bayonetta, then?
Nintendo might be out of touch, and might make a lot of dumb decisions, but I do not think your characterization is accurate.
Its funny cause those people seem to have abandoned them completely.
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It really is. I've been watching the main stream in almost its entirety for the past three years and I can't think of any out of line behavior. As soon as one of the commentators starts veering in dangerous territory the other one either calls him out on it or steers the conversation back instantly.