Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never

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Dumb, fun movie. If you look at the acting and dialogue, it kinda resembles B-grade anime.

"Let's do this...together!"
"Let's finish this!"
"This is for my family!"

Not to mention Charlie Hunnam, who was as "bad voice actor" as you can get.

Still, I was really entertained, overall, and a few sequences were excellently done. FX were top notch, but don't see this in 3D, I felt it did the film a disservice. I could tell I was missing out on some of the "visual splendor" because it was hard to focus on it all.

Del Toro created an awesome world that doesn't always make sense and doesn't feel like it needs to. I would pay money to watch squads of Jaeger fighting Kaiju.
 
Anton Sugar said:
Dumb, fun movie. If you look at the acting and dialogue, it kinda resembles B-grade anime.

"Let's do this...together!"
"Let's finish this!"
"This is for my family!"

Not to mention Charlie Hunnam, who was as "bad voice actor" as you can get.

Still, I was really entertained, overall, and a few sequences were excellently done. FX were top notch, but don't see this in 3D, I felt it did the film a disservice. I could tell I was missing out on some of the "visual splendor" because it was hard to focus on it all.

Del Toro created an awesome world that doesn't always make sense and doesn't feel like it needs to. I would pay money to watch squads of Jaeger fighting Kaiju.
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I think you are spot on about the anime acting. However Imax 3d is THE preferred way to see this film. It should be mandatory. There should be an Imax theater in every cinema lol
 
i give this movie 11/10 kaijuu's. when i am able to form more adult thoughts other than it was cool to see jaegers punch giant kaijuu's in the face repeatedly, i will do so. i felt the same way when i was a kid and saw the 80s transformers cartoon in a theater when i saw this movie. will see again, will buy the bluray day 1. and please god let there be a sequel.
 
From now on, whenever I'm having a rough patch in life, I'm just going to thank my stars that I'm not GAF user IAmMattFox, because good lord, his life must be miserable.

This movie was great. Forget all the wankers saying turn off your brain. You don't even need to do that. The plot is perfectly fine. "Turn off your brain" means you have to willfully overlook plot-induced-stupidity, which is most certainly not the case here, because everything makes sense within this fictional universe. In fact, there are some pretty great creative ideas related to the plot which the negative reviewers seem to have overlooked completely. Too much time browsing thesaurus.com on their iphones trying to find some fifty cent words to shoehorn into their reviews, I'd imagine.

Some of the actors weren't the best. I had the most problems with Charlie Day and the other scientist. It's hard to describe just how terrible and annoying Charlie Day was almost every time he was on screen. The other scientist wasn't much better. Both of them were just annoying as fuck and a distraction.

Every other character was good. And the fights. Oh man, the fights. What's great about them is that they actually serve as character development. The characters have arcs that are developed throughout the course of the film's battles. Which is, you know, what action scenes are supposed to do, as Plinkett famously pointed out years ago.

People comparing it to Transformers don't know shit about shit. Now obviously everyone is entitled to an opinion, but some opinions just make you look dumb as fuck, and about 28% of the reviewers on Rotten Tomatoes look dumb as fuck right now.

9/10, would watch again. The movie has tons of flaws, but in spite of them, I can't rate it below a 9.
 
Dead Man said:
So, it's bad? Damn.
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It's not bad at all, and the action is amazing and should make Michael Bay feel ashamed at the vastly inferior things he does with his giant robots. But the non-action stuff is sometimes like watching a big budget version of Overdrift. I think that was intentional, though, given the genre, and it works 90% of the time. It's full of cliches, but it plays them well, is probably the best way to put it.
 
Just saw the movie in regular 2d. What a great movie. The fighting and looks are just amazing. Sadly, characters were pretty weak. Almost no emotional connection with them. I'd prefer more scenes of training and more peaceful scenes with talking and contemplating.
But fights are still mind blowing. I regret not watching it in imax now. I hope we'll see an extended version on bluray.
Action is probably best in industry.
And,actually, making giant robots fight monsters isn't gonna hold up much scrutiny. There's may be more effective ways of killing these things. Just saying.

I'd like a japanese jaeger called Mazinger in sequel

9/10
 
You can make cliches original through context and presentation. "There's no place like home" is a cliche, but by the end of The Wizard of Oz it feels like the best dialogue in the world.

Pacific Rim sometimes elevates its cliches and sometimes doesn't. Even when it doesn't, they're still fun.

The scenes I actually hated were:

The goodbye scene between the Australians

Everything with Charlie Day

And really, that's it. There are very few moments when the film even comes close to approximating "bad." And I got quite an emotional connection to Idris Elba, the Japanese lady, and our main character, even if I can't remember their names at the moment. Plus the Jaegers. I felt for those big lugs.

Anton Sugar said:
Jaeger fights are to Transformers fights as OT lightsaber fights are to PT lightsaber fights.
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Co-sign this powerful post.
 
It's really easy to realize how "on purpose" the cliches and cheese are when you think about it/say them out loud.

Full spoilers ahead:

The washed up pilot who's brother was violently killed in front of his eyes is recruited by the war hardened commander who refuses to let the girl who he saved from imminent death use the jaegers to bring justice to the beasts that took her family from her.

Other cliches include the asshole rival who respects only his father but comes around to the hero when he proves himself in battle, the scientist who defies all laws of physics to prove his worth, the scientist who is 100% facts and figures all the time, and the black market dealer with a "don't give a shit" attitude about everything and the steel boots.

I mean, come on. It doesn't get much more on-purpose than that.
 
There are actually people that expect more than giant robots and monsters beating the shit out of each other?

That's the sole reason I'm going to see it.
 
Transformers is a movie that is about robots beating the shit out of each other. The difference is that everything in Transformers outside the fights is actually, legitimately terrible. The story beats make no sense and are poorly paced, the character motivations are inconsistent or nonexistent, and literally everything about what you're seeing on screen is shit.

Pacific Rim is Jurassic Park compared to that. Heck, Raiders of the Lost Ark compared to that.
 
Jack Remington said:
This movie was great. Forget all the wankers saying turn off your brain. You don't even need to do that. The plot is perfectly fine. "Turn off your brain" means you have to willfully overlook plot-induced-stupidity, which is most certainly not the case here, because everything makes sense within this fictional universe. In fact, there are some pretty great creative ideas related to the plot which the negative reviewers seem to have overlooked completely. Too much time browsing thesaurus.com on their iphones trying to find some fifty cent words to shoehorn into their reviews, I'd imagine.
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I agree the "it's great if you turn off your brain!" comments are weird. It's pretty enjoyable unless you're the "Who's this guy? What is this guy doing? Where is this? Why didn't this guy do that?" guy who probably didn't enjoy many movies anyway.
 
vareon said:
I agree the "it's great if you turn off your brain!" comments are weird. It's pretty enjoyable unless you're the "Who's this guy? What is this guy doing? Where is this? Why didn't this guy do that?" guy who probably didn't enjoy many movies anyway.
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My "turn off brain" comment refers more to the cheesy dialogue and characters. There is nothing really meaningful said between anyone and everyone's character is obvious from the moment you lay your eyes on them.

Of course, this movie took it's own cheesiness, elbow rocketed it, and made it more awesome than I thought possible, so *shrug*.
 
IamMattFox said:
Dead Man, think of it as a 2013 version of Independence Day. If you think a movie with that tone would work for you 20 years later, you'll probably be able to dig this.
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Good comparison for the tone and mood of the film. There is thankfully a lot less cheese and self seriousness in Pacific Rim though. Del Toro didn't try to overreach with the drama like Emmerich did though.

mxgt said:
I didn't even like the fights in Transformers.

Michael Bay came so close to ruining my love for giant robots.
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Bay was too busy fetishizing the US military.
 
There was a premiere yesterday in Paris (release next week), I saw the film with my kid, 11 yo... The ones thinking that the characters are cliché are right, but the kids will understand everything, and that's the ultimate goal of this movie... Big fun and thrills, for the kids (and making adults kids again for 2 hours).

And I can see the parallels with SW from some reviews... The fact that you're dropped in a world which seems real, asking you to accept things without trying to explain them, cliché characters and dialogues, rollercoaster feelings...
 
mxgt said:
There are actually people that expect more than giant robots and monsters beating the shit out of each other?

That's the sole reason I'm going to see it.
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It kind of was. I mean the fight scenes are great but the movie did have a chance of being something more. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing but there really was some lost potential there.
 
FullMetalx117 said:
It kind of was. I mean the fight scenes are great but the movie did have a chance of being something more. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing but there really was some lost potential there.
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Pretty much. Elements of the universe are really exciting, but it never elevates it above its extremely basic level.

10 year old me would've loved it.
Jack Remington said:
From now on, whenever I'm having a rough patch in life, I'm just going to thank my stars that I'm not GAF user IAmMattFox, because good lord, his life must be miserable.
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lol
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Good comparison for the tone and mood of the film. There is thankfully a lot less cheese and self seriousness in Pacific Rim though. Del Toro didn't try to overreach with the drama like Emmerich did though.



Bay was too busy fetishizing the US military.
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Don't hate me, but I thought the military was one of the better parts or Transformers.
 
Haven't had that much fun with a film in theater in so long. Of course you can make the arguments of the plot, characters, dialogue, etc. being shit or whatever but good lord that is some of the best giant robot action I've ever seen. The sense of scale and weight to every movement of the Jaegers and Kaijus is simply extraordinary. You can absolutely tell that Del Toro has a deep appreciation and passion for this genre from this movie.

Great movie. From beginning to end, I was smiling from ear to ear.
 
Pacific Rim opened #1 in all 7 Asian markets:

Deadline said:
Warner Bros says Legendary Pictures’ Pacific Rim opened #1 in all 7 Asian markets on Thursday grossing a total $3.7M from 2,157 screens despite a crowded international marketplace. Korea made $1.4M from 961 screens, Taiwan: $611K from 199 screens, Thailand $559K from 273 screens, Malaysia $348K from 207 screens, The Philippines $283K from 277 screens, Indonesia $249K from 168 screens, Singapore $240K from 72 screens. More in the morning…
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Razgriz-Specter said:
Don't hate me, but I thought the military was one of the better parts or Transformers.
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Not hating. Bay makes the military look awesome. That is why they love him and let him have tons of access to things to show off in the films. And it does help with some realism because you know the military would be involved if that stuff ever happened.
 
Awesome movie! Epic in scale and gorgeous-looking in overall color! Amazing attention to details and fanservice to all that love giant robots and monsters!

Acting in parts were iffy, the plot was paper-thin, and the entire middle section was methodical.....but hell, this was one damn sweet ride of a Summer film spectacle!

Definitely in my Top 3 of Summer movies for 2013!
 
MMaRsu said:
Just tell me it's at least better than Prometheus story wise ( lol so many retarded shit in that movie )
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Prometheus has a bad due to bipolar characterisations, inconsistencies, plot holes, and bloated, poorly explained concepts. The kind of story you start trying to decipher in your head once the credits are rolling and all you can think of is questions. Questions why characters behaved one way, then another. Questions why characters thought certain plans would work. How people ended up in such absurd, implausible scenarios. The convolution. Prometheus tries to do too much with too little, and badly at that.

Pacific Rim does not have a "good story", and by this I mean you wont find rich characters, deep back stories, thought provoking drama, and an plot entangled with twists and revelations that blow your mind. The characters are one dimensional. The plot is ripe with clichés. And nothing is every really explained beyond "this is X, and so we need to Y".

But, in my opinion, this works to the film's strength. Because where Prometheus was trying to be intelligent, moving, and complex, failing at all these points, Pacific Rim is deliberate in its simplicity and silliness. If you personally don't like the cliches, you may not enjoy it. If you like action movie cliche characters, and just want to enjoy the ride, then you will enjoy it.

Pacific Rim is like a dumb 70-80s action movie made today. With robots and monsters.
 
MMaRsu said:
Just tell me it's at least better than Prometheus story wise ( lol so many retarded shit in that movie )
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I wouldn't say the story was 'bad' in this really, there just wasn't much to it and was generic.
Though I am glad the movie had it.
At worst it could just be a complete zero but it never approached negative territory for me.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
I've decided to cancel my plans to see this movie tonight. I've had my fill of this type of cringe worthy dialogue this summer.
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just back from cinemas, this movie is worth watching just for the action. Everything else was not so great but damn those fights were orgasmic. Turn off your brain and become a kid.
 
All of you who haven't seen it on IMAX 3D should. Makes the movie so much more immersive and you can feel the scale of the Jaegers and Kaiju. I would rate this movie a 10/10 on a normal screen, and 20/10 on IMAX 3D. You owe it to yourself to see it in this format before it gets replaced by some undeserving film.
 
Hrm. I think my opinion will be unpopular, but I think it was a solidly mediocre movie. (Definitely 3 stars out of 5. It was good, entertaining, and mindless fun, but I'm not enthusiastic to see it again.) The giant robot fighting kaiju sequences were awesome, so it sucked that I had to wait an hour between two of them.

And I really wish they hadn't bothered with even trying with the techno-babble. It ended up feeling like A-movie effects strangely hanging around in a B-movie. I would have enjoyed the movie more if there had been more shutting up and giant robot fighting, and less "we're justifying our actions".

And for those saying things like "You expected it to be Citizen Kane?", no. I was expecting a summer popcorn flick. I got that. It was better than Bay's Transformers by a large margin. (I actually got significantly more robots vs monsters than the disappointment that was "Robots vs US Army") But I felt that the setting was brilliant...and the movie decided that utilizing it would've been too much and opted for just filler between the fights.

It's frustrating, because as someone said earlier, it had the ability to be significantly more than it was, and didn't utilize it. (This movie really needed more funding so we could have had more Jaeger fighting.)

So I'm going to go with the less popular crowd of "I liked it, but there are reasons I was disappointed."

Anyway, off to the spoiler thread!
 
RPG Wizard said:
Hrm. I think my opinion will be unpopular, but I think it was a solidly mediocre movie. (Definitely 3 stars out of 5. It was good, entertaining, and mindless fun, but I'm not enthusiastic to see it again.) The giant robot fighting kaiju sequences were awesome, so it sucked that I had to wait an hour between two of them.

And I really wish they hadn't bothered with even trying with the techno-babble. It ended up feeling like A-movie effects strangely hanging around in a B-movie. I would have enjoyed the movie more if there had been more shutting up and giant robot fighting, and less "we're justifying our actions".

And for those saying things like "You expected it to be Citizen Kane?", no. I was expecting a summer popcorn flick. I got that. It was better than Bay's Transformers by a large margin. (I actually got significantly more robots vs monsters than the disappointment that was "Robots vs US Army") But I felt that the setting was brilliant...and the movie decided that utilizing it would've been too much and opted for just filler between the fights.

It's frustrating, because as someone said earlier, it had the ability to be significantly more than it was, and didn't utilize it. (This movie really needed more funding so we could have had more Jaeger fighting.)

So I'm going to go with the less popular crowd of "I liked it, but there are reasons I was disappointed."

Anyway, off to the spoiler thread!
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I agree that there was a 30 minute plus drought of no big action sequences but in total I think there was at least an hour of Jaeger Kaiju sequences
 
I may actually see this in 3D, to support the film. :(

Please tell me the 3D is good.
 
Terrible Majesty said:
All of you who haven't seen it on IMAX 3D should. Makes the movie so much more immersive and you can feel the scale of the Jaegers and Kaiju. I would rate this movie a 10/10 on a normal screen, and 20/10 on IMAX 3D. You owe it to yourself to see it in this format before it gets replaced by some undeserving film.
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Will Ultra AVX be "good enough"?

IMAX screening only has crappy seats left. I got amazing seats though for the ultraavx 3d screening.

http://montreal.about.com/od/montrealevents/ss/ultraavx-review-vs-imax.htm
 
Bamelin said:
Will Ultra AVX be "good enough"?

IMAX screening only has crappy seats left. I hot amazing seats though for the ultraavx 3d screening.
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Good question. I saw it in Imax and my loxal.theater only has avx, so I shall go see it in avx Tuesday. IMAX is massive though. I think there ultimately will be a difference, perhaps just sit a bit closer for avx lol
 
Razgriz-Specter said:
Don't hate me, but I thought the military was one of the better parts or Transformers.
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I would rather that Transformer films had the main hero as a military person leading a squad then stupid kids.

Watching humans vs Decepticons where interesting compared to WTF was going on when it was Autobot vs Decepticons
 
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