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African Americans are going to be very angry, but remember what their reaction was when OJ Simpson was acquitted?

Yes because OJ killing his Ex wife and her lover is the same thing as killing a unarmed 17 year old coming home from the store with skittles and ice tea is the same thing.

Fuck you ...

 

[onlyindreams]

If Zimmerman's story is true, then I think the killing was justified.

are you fucking kidding me? we know for a fact the kid was WALKING HOME MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS ON THE PHONE DRINKING ICED TEA WHEN A CREEPY PARANOID DUDE WITH A GUN STARTED FOLLOWING HIM

 

[childplease]

You finally showed up.

Ya. Miss anything good ? I was watching pacific rim when the verdict went one.

 

[Soler]

It's not fine. It's not fine at all.

These kinds of threats should be reported to the authorities and investigated to the full extent of the law. It's horrific, barbaric, and I legitimately fear for Mr. Zimmerman's life.

I don't
It's just an angsty teen looking for attention

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I hope street justice succeeds where the law has failed.

He was found not guilty by a verdict of his peers.

I don't wish the guy harm as much as I hope him being innocent doesn't paint a false picture of how he is because this guy might not be able to live normally anymore.

 

[The Faceless Master]

This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

=\

depends on which ones...

 

[afternoon delight]

Lets be honest here. If Zimmerman was black and treyvon was white, Zimmerman would have gotten life.

Agreed.

 

[Uncle Rupee]

I think the conversation has moved past this a bit, but that is absolutely not what is going through somebodies mind when they're in a fight.

"Oh, this blow should only cause a minor concussion, I better lay off so as to give an equal beating".

Doesn't work like that.

If he honestly thought his life was in danger he's a pussy / coward. Maybe instead of reaching for the gun he should have defended himself with his arms. He could have guarded his head against any blows by curling up.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Defending Paula Deen.

Where's he doing that from?

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Why does this 20 year old case still resonate? The score is a few million Black men in prison to 1 O.J. case. Oh, and where is OJ Simpson right now????

Also OJ needed the gotdamned Dream Team to pull that shit off.

A fucking assembly of the best trial lawyers of the day just to get the "doesn't fit, must acquit" bullshit verdict.

Also, let's not pretend that the actions of the public after Rodney King in 1992 didn't influence the jury of OJ in 1994.

 

[Kyon]

Latino Culture-GAF...do it.

I don't have enough confidence to make a thread in OT. If I word something wrong everyone would drag me *.* I hope someone else could make it

 

[lazorexplosion]

How so? Those bloody pictures with the testimony of Vincent DiMaio stating how mild concussions can occur from the blows Zimmerman sustained would certainly effect the jurors perception of how injured Zimmerman was.

A key point in the trial was that you do not have to wait for severe injuries to actually occur before being justified in the use of self defense. The defense held that Zimmerman's head was being slammed into the concrete and that caused Zimmerman feared for his life if that attack continued even if it had not yet caused severe injuries.

Internet speculation on the nature of the injuries based on pictures is uniformed and irrelevant compared to what jurors actually heard.

 

[Marked_Bravado]

So does this mean that Phoenix Jones can start packing heat and shoot anyone who fights back?

There's a certain blood spatter analyst in Miami Metro who might be interested.

I am saddened by the verdict but damn these two posts are too good. Thanks for the laugh. Needed it.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

What are you even getting at with comment?

Apparently to him this whole thing is the American justice system making a make up call for OJ.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Yes because OJ killing his Ex wife and her lover is the same thing as killing a unarmed 17 year old coming home from the store with skittles and ice tea is the same thing.

Fuck you ...

They didn't have weapons either nor did they deserve to die.

You almost act like they deserved to die more.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

The Zimmerman apologists in this thread are mystifying.

It's an opportunity to come out of the woodwork and claim vindication based on the verdict.

 

[Black Door]

This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

=\

If justice can't be done in the court, then at least let it be done here. Weed 'em out, Bish

 

[Cloudy]

Like I said, pure cowardice. He has people that depend on him, friends, family, relatives etc too. You're just being selfish.

Something many Americans don't seem to get is that billions of fights happen every week that end in nothing more than pain, bruises, a bit of bleeding or a broken bone or two at worst. You are probably as likely to die in a plane crash as you are to die from a fight you might get in to at some point in your life. The fear and selfishness motivates people to essentially take another human life at the meagre insignificant risk of danger.

There is no way TM was realistically going to kill GZ. And based on Zimmerman's injuries, he certainly did not fight it out long enough to see if he was close to any real danger.

And you don't lay there and take it, you fight back or you lose. Simple. If Zimmerman never racially profiled TM, and followed him AGAINST the wishes of the police and AGAINST the rules of his neighbourhood watch, TM would be alive today, and that's the bottom line.

That's why other properly developed Western nations around the world have laws that strictly prohibit killing people, even in the name of self defence. Because human life is important. The idea is that everyone should be aware of that, even at their limits, and having laws like those of most developed countries inhibits that.

Great post. Without the gun in his pocket, Zimmerman would never have ignored orders from the 911 dispatcher and approached Martin. He wouldn't have felt like such a tough guy if he wasn't packing.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I wish for one damn month, just one month the roles in the US are reversed like that John Travolta movie.

Cause I swear some of the people in this thread....lawd, I can't even.

And like I said earlier, replace Travyon Martin with white girl/boy and this shit would have been open and shut case Johnson. No crack sprinkling needed.

 

[charsace]

Oh....

This tells you a lotabout america.

 

[The Faceless Master]

If Zimmerman's story is true, then I think the killing was justified.

which version?

 

[Soler]

If he honestly thought his life was in danger he's a pussy / coward. Maybe instead of reaching for the gun he should have defended himself with his arms. He could have guarded his head against any blows by curling up.

E thugs representin

 

[Kyon]

If Zimmerman's story is true, then I think the killing was justified.

 

[Beef]

I don't
It's just an angsty teen looking for attention

Yes, just a few angsty teens.

 

[gutter_trash]

Right...because Hispanics can only be identified with culturally Iberian surnames.





Also, Zimmerman's father German.

Let's take the last names of Augusto Pinochet or Michelle Bachelet who were both heads of state in Chile. French names but Chilean Presidents.hmmmm

Let's take from Argentina: Lionel Messi or Pope Francis (Jorge Mario Bergoglio). Hey, their names are Italian! but from Argentina?
how did that happen?

oh shit!!! It's just like how Italians immigrated to the US also, aaa they immigrated to other countries too LOL

 

[eznark]

Yes because OJ killing his Ex wife and her lover is the same thing as killing a unarmed 17 year old coming home from the store with skittles and ice tea is the same thing.

Fuck you ...

???

 

[Xdrive05]

I'm torn on it all.

I think it was the correct verdict based on a lot of reasonable doubt but there should have been some punishment as the dude didn't deserve to die.

It would have been curious as to what sentence the judge would have given Zimmerman if he was convicted of manslaughter.

(I think she'd sentence him, not sure)

My feelings exactly. I feel like the verdict is correct based on the prosecution's performance, but I still want GZ punished for his negligence that ultimately set the stage for those events to play out that led to what happened.

The conflict never should have happened in the first place. GZ needs to be accountable for his actions that led to it, even assuming he did kill in self defense after it started.

 

[params7]

You keep assuming TM started the fight and no one knows who did. It's all pure speculation because half of the people fighting are dead.

I'm just telling that guy that even minor scuffles to the head can be life threatening. The head is seen as the bodypart to attack if you want to quickly disable a person.

The court says TM started the fight though.

 

[nib95]

Great post. Without the gun in his pocket, Zimmerman would never have ignored orders from the 911 dispatcher and approached Martin. He wouldn't have felt like such a tough guy if he wasn't packing.

Yeap, this is pretty much a dead cert.

 

[Extollere]

Ugh... fuck everything man. People say to respect the justice system, but what's the point in believing in the justice system if it can't even send a killer like GZ away? This whole thing is just disgusting.

 

[Wanda/Wander]

African Americans are going to be very angry, but remember what their reaction was when OJ Simpson was acquitted?

All Black people reacted the same way to OJ?

What?

Who are you talking to?

Take your hands off the keyboard, and go to bed.

 

[Carnby]

Holy shit at some (most) of these posts. I think most of the comments are pretty much a way of blowing off steam...but let's not start attacking/devouring each other.

Agreed. we can talk about this without resorting to childish name calling. For shame.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Also OJ needed the gotdamned Dream Team to pull that shit off.

A fucking assembly of the best trial lawyers of the day just to get the "doesn't fit, must acquit" bullshit verdict.

Ok, but what does OJ have to do with an unarmed dude getting shot in cold blood? It happened 20 years ago, half the people bitching about OJ weren't alive when that shit happened. They're just parroting talking points they've heard from their dads. It's just annoying.

Also, let's not pretend that the actions of the public after Rodney King in 1992 didn't influence the jury of OJ in 1994.

Who gives a shit. Is this "Revenge for OJ day"? Last I checked he's in jail right now. It's ok to move on from OJ.

 

[Byakuya769]

Yes, just a few angsty teens.

Well, this black guy kind of changes things. Am I right?

 

[lazorexplosion]

Lol, you're full of shit if you believe that bs. A woman can mace the fuck out of a creep if he follows her to her car and nothing would legally happen to her even though she got physical first.

Given that macing is non-life threatening you would unlikely to be justifiably killed in self defense at least. If you mace a guy who's trying to tell you you dropped your car keys assault charges may not be unexpected.

 

[United]

I am just playing Devil's advocate. I obviously don't agree with the decision, but I do see the irony in comparing the reactions people have based on race. If this was white on white violence I doubt this gets any attention, if this was black on black violence I REALLY doubt this gets any attention.

And funny thing about ethnicity, it's a false ideology founded to keep groups of people suppressed. The Spartans were among the first to demonstrate its value when they subjugated their Messenian neighbors.

I am sorry if I offended anybody, that wasn't my intention.

 

[MThanded]

I'm just telling that guy that even minor scuffles to the head can be life threatening. The head is seen as the bodypart to attack if you want to quickly disable a person.

The court says TM started the fight though.

No they don't. Neither side has proof who started the fight. If you don't have proof then in Florida by default you side with the person claiming self defense because state has the burden of proof in Florida.

 

[Sanic]

If he honestly thought his life was in danger he's a pussy / coward. Maybe instead of reaching for the gun he should have defended himself with his arms. He could have guarded his head against any blows by curling up.

I'll be frank, i'm not going to touch this "coward" line of thought because I straight up don't get it, and it really comes down to a difference of opinion.

I don't carry any weapons, ever. I think I would have trouble, internally, making an attack on myself into some kind of gradient; If you're violating me, I shouldn't have to discern the degree to which you're doing it and how best to handle it, especially if it's quick and violent.

 

[Soler]

Yes because OJ killing his Ex wife and her lover is the same thing as killing a unarmed 17 year old coming home from the store with skittles and ice tea is the same thing.

Fuck you ...

Lol wat
Is this justifying OJ's actions?

 

[Measley]

Posted this on facebook, and thought I'd share it here;

Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress.
~Martin Luther King, Jr.

And I'm out.

 

[Jea Song]

Zimmerman pulled the trigger. I understand if it wasn't for Zimmerman, Martin would be alive right now. With that said why aren't people more upset at the stand your ground law?

Change that shit. That's why Zimmerman got away with murderer.

 

[King Mystery]

Definitely going to feel less sympathetic whenever a hurricane/tornado hits Florida and levels some place in the future.

 

[ciridesu]

Siding with all the other 'the prosecution should've argued their case in favor of manslaughter all along...'-views here. What a colossal fuck-up this whole incident has been.

This is another one of those white people understandings of race. Two Hispanic people interacting don't see each other as just Hispanics, they see white Hispanic, black Hispanic, Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, El Salvadorean, etc. You know why? Because they can tell the difference. The only shared camaraderie they have comes from dealing with all the people who can't.

White people understandings of race? I don't even get your point. Your same argument is applied to every racial group ever.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

can't even tell who's trolling and who's serious.

Poe's Law: The Thread

 

[Sub_Level]

If justice can't be done in the court, then at least let it be done here. Weed 'em out, Bish

Maybe I'm reading his post wrong, but I think he's just pointing out the unfortunate nature of our country's/media's short attention span as opposing to necessarily endorsing forgetting about this.

Don't see how that would be ban worthy.

 

[Zizbuka]

So this pretty much opens the flood gates to fuck with black people and then kill them and get away with it.

Is that really what you took from this? smh

 

[Aquamarine]

I'm torn on it all.

I think it was the correct verdict based on a lot of reasonable doubt but there should have been some punishment as the dude didn't deserve to die.

It would have been curious as to what sentence the judge would have given Zimmerman if he was convicted of manslaughter.

(I think she'd sentence him, not sure)

Considering the circumstances surrounding this case, if he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter, he'd probably get 10-11 years in prison.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Yeah, this case really helps expose how shitty Florida gun laws are. I don't think lawmakers really considered what could happen if people are allowed to kill someone as a result of a physical fight.

Good job Florida, now any physical altercation can turn into a deadly one.

I don't understand people saying this is something new? Any physical altercation has a chance of becoming deadly. If you are winning a fight, by law the person you are beating the shit out of can legally kill you. You can be killed without a gun or a weapon in a physical fight. Fighting is generally not a good idea.

 

[googleplex]

Link me to some youtube or twitter meltdowns.

Stuff gonna be good.

Yes Travon life was snuffed out. And a murder is walking free. But its nice to know that the fact that Travon's parents lost thier son will bring you enjoyment.

 

[Zep]

He was found not guilty by a verdict of his peers.

I don't wish the guy harm as much as I hope him being innocent doesn't paint a false picture of how he is because this guy might not be able to live normally anymore.

Well, like George said about killing Trayvon..."Its God's plan." So him not living normally and/or any consequences from this outcome should be fine with him.