Riots In Downtown Miami After George Zimmerman Not Guilty Verdict
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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty
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A grown-ass man getting his ass beat by a kid armed with candy and apparently having to pull a gun to defend himself is sickening to me.
Gentleman Jack
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E3 was a month ago. Then they found the OT.
ReBurn
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I feel bad that Trayvon Martin is dead. That is the worst thing to come out of this. I don't care how Zimmerman feels. He's the one who has to live with himself over this. I hope it haunts him.
I still don't know what side to take (probably won't take any).
I look at it like this:
Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon and pursued him with a gun, with no intention of shooting him. Trayvon got spooked and started beating up Zimmerman. If the story goes that he was actually fearing for his life (which he may not have been), does he have the right to shoot someone? Why or why not?
But that is only one side of the story. I think both sides had bogus arguments, and it sucks we'll never know what really happened.
edit: for the record i believe the verdict was wrong
I look at it like this:
Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon and pursued him with a gun, with no intention of shooting him. Trayvon got spooked and started beating up Zimmerman. If the story goes that he was actually fearing for his life (which he may not have been), does he have the right to shoot someone? Why or why not?
But that is only one side of the story. I think both sides had bogus arguments, and it sucks we'll never know what really happened.
edit: for the record i believe the verdict was wrong
So you are advocating killing the only other witness to the altercation. Your defense is basically " A dead guy can't tell his story. Guess he should have stayed alive."
GZ removed a key piece of evidence by killing TM.
It is not up to you. The standard is the "reasonable person standard". Otherwise, any fight can justifiably end in the shooting death of your opponent.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Manslaughter vs Justifiable Homicide (self defense)
A good number of people think it was the former. The jury found it to be the latter.
Carnby
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Marches. Not riots.
And they...what? Decide to post here on E3, then only come up to act as secret conservative boogeymen?
y'all hate juniors
Angry Fork
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Was Trayvon not supposed to feel threatened by a strange heavy set man stalking/following him?
Northeastmonk
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There are smaller riots when capital punishment is put into action. What gives?
I didn't say that.
You can not believe something and still think it's reasonable to suggest it.
I think it's ridiculous to think that this is reasonable to suggest.
I don't get this logic. If you're engaged into a fistfight with someone it's okay to shoot them if they start beating your ass?
"IF IF IF" is why he got off. Reasonable doubt.
I don't assume Trayvon was the aggressor, I just know they were completely incapable of making me and the jury think Zimmerman was.
Tragicomedy
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Likewise, there's no proof Martin instigated it either. Dead kids can't defend themselves in court.
King Mystery
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Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I don't know the answers to these questions, but I highly doubt the frequency of junior posters coming out for a thread like this is a coincidence.
My favorite headline of all time
I remember this. One of the sad facts of this country is that Black people are second class citizens. A lot of laws are in place with the purpose of jailing us by the truck full.
Looks like a massive demonstration, not a riot. Major difference. Wake me if people start breaking shit and pummeling people due to their ethnicity.
Do people usually set cars or stuff on fire in "marches"? Just asking because I can see something big on fire in the distance.
Northeastmonk
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If he pulls a knife out of his pocket or something else. You have no idea what the other guy is thinking. If you hit your head the right way, you can die. If you puncture the right vein/artery, you can die.
I don't know why I read the comments.
Your feelings aren't wrong, I'm just upset so I said something that's probably controversial.
But then you felt no remorse that someone lost their life that night.
You seem to be full of bullshit.
I agree that the evidence was not there but then you said inflammatory stuff earlier.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The prosecution did nothing to prove otherwise and they had that burden.
Also, one guy clearly got his ass kicked and the other guy didn't.
Yes, the gunshot was the worst injury as it ended a life but all of this lined up with at least reasonable doubt.
Could Zimmerman have been the aggressor and initiated the fight???
Possibly but it doesn't look that way with the evidence.
And we only have the survivor's word on that. Whether Zimmerman started the physical fight or if Martin did, the result here would be the same, killer goes free.
This is why needing to disprove self defense is bullshit.
That is the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. You're not allowed to pick a fight, pull out a gun and kill someone and then claim it was self defense. That is moronic, and Florida should be ashamed of itself.
I wonder how these supporters (btw What the fuck, no really, what the fuck?) would feel if some fat asshole pulled this on them.
I wonder how these supporters (btw What the fuck, no really, what the fuck?) would feel if some fat asshole pulled this on them.
I never said physical. Zimmerman stalked and engaged (approached and had his firearm ready) Martin while he was in the gated community.
I'd certainly feel threatened, and worried for my life, if someone did that to me.
Carnby
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When did that happen?
Of course I would, but I am unsure of would confront him about it. I like to think I would knock on someones door and tell them someone is following me and ask them to call the police.
Gentleman Jack
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I hate posts that say the outrage at Zimmerman's acquittal is somehow worse than the slaying of Trayvon Martin.
Mammoth Jones
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No one knows who provoked the altercation. But my money is on the man with the combat training, the size advantage, the loaded gun, and...oh yea...the history of physical confrontations....
I agree about the proof. There's no way to know for absolute certain. But manslaughter? Absolutely. Can't go stalking people and then if they dare have the temerity to defend themselves from fear of assault shoot them like dogs.
Michael Vick went to jail for killing some dogs. George Zimmerman gets to go home and go to sleep tonight. Something is wrong with America.
Fucking hell, racist comment after racist comment. Was it always this bad?
That's Vancouver.
Angry Fork
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Guys narrating are such huge fucking cunts, can't stand people like that. Comments are just as bad obviously.
IDK. Looks like shit is being set on fire. I think that puts it into riot status.
I think that's the disconnect. It literally doesn't matter what the verdict should have been in anyone's opinion .. if the state doesn't PROVE their case to the people sitting in the box, the defendant walks.
Are you saying you think he approached martin w/ his pistol drawn?
Who pays attention to such idiocy in the first place?
not psycho
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No, the jury didn't even say that much. There is no "found innocent" or "we find he was under attack when he shot."
There is only reasonable doubt. That's it. Not as satisfying maybe, but all there is.
The jury can still suspect Zimmerman did it. They can think "what if Martin was only trying to get the gun away because he was afraid that this stalker would kill him, and did not intend to use it? What if Zimmerman was lying when he claimed Martin made death threats?"
"What if the hitting was over, they had moved to the grass, and Zimmerman murdered Martin anyway?"
We know very little for sure. The jury may be haunted by this decision, with the knowledge Zimmerman likely just got away with murder. But they decided they had reasonable doubt. No surprise since the bar for a self defense claim is extremely low in Florida (didn't even have to testify and see if he could keep a straight face with his stories!) and the only other witness was dead.
Mammoth Jones
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MSNBC showed a march and said that it was in San Francisco. This can't be in Miami because the verdict was read at around 10pm EST. There is sill day light in this video
She discredited herself as a witness too many times.
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