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Pacific Rim Spoiler Thread: Today, We Are Cancelling the Use of Spoiler Tags!
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tauroxd
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This thing was a Live Action Anime and that's why is so awesome, when it comes to the fights and the little Mako scene... And bad stuff like shitty dialogues sometimes.
I guess, but a few times throughout the movie I felt like they were setting up too much information when I just wanted to see jaegers fighting.
Yeah, that makes more sense than the aliens scheduling their attacks purely on a mathematical formula. It takes time for the rift to stable to send an army of Kaiju through, but once stable we could also send something back to their world. Simple yet logical and not a sudden curve ball like a barcode required to enter.
I guess they didnt have the budget to make a swarm of Kaiju coming out of the breach though. Unfortunate because daaamn...that would have been coooool!
They should have driven home how much of a big deal Kaiju Blue was. The comic I read last night really helped me understand why a weapon like the sword would even be seen as a last resort. Then again, it didn't seem like anyone was actively giving a fuck about spreading Kaiju blood around in the movie lol.
artist mentioned this was discussed in the movie, do you recall if it was? In the scenes where the portal was discussed I don't remember anything about it being unstable/small/growing, etc. But there was a lot of technobabble around it and it's possible I missed it.
In the end it's really just a plot contrivance, but I'm curious if the film did have a fictional rationalization for it that I missed, rather than leaving us to come up with one.
maybe it was the part where one of the scientists pulled up the iron man computer glass thing and dropped a virtual nuke in it and was explaining why this time dropping a nuke would work because of portal stability (this was before the second drift/barcode barrier revelation)
but yeah i really wasn't paying much attention to the non-jaeger, non-rinko stuff
not that i'm aware of no
tacit ronin, romeo blue, horizon brave were shown in the beginning
during the news report there was the head of another jaeger shown atop rubble but i don't think it's possible to ID it without the art book?
CF_Fighter
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I think we saw a part of Brawler Yukon being assembled in the flashback. Nothing beyond that though.
Oh, was I the only one who thought the jaggers lokked like the Megadeus from Big O
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That's what I thought of when I saw the first trailer.
I think the idea was "kill the guy who saw our plans" but then he already gave the information to others. Then it was maybe "stop him from seeing more by killing him", but once it was out there what could be learned, someone would do it, if not him. Then, his whole plot of going to find a guy who has a black market of kaiju was odd. Only two kaiju at a time show up on Earth, Perlman's able to snatch them from governments who would clearly want to study them? The plot ends with getting the brain from the next kaiju wave. So Charlie Day's character could have just stayed at base until the next attack and then studied them after the fight, for a movie that was already lengthy. At least the visuals inside the city were pretty cool and redeemable. (Blade Runnerish)
Seemed unrealistic and weird, without an obvious alternative on the horizon. Like the public would stand for cancelling the only thing that was working for us. Just an excuse to set up panic and urgency in the film through an expository scene. You could say "they could have another plan we don't know about", but it never comes into the story again so don't even have it as a scene.
It was supposed to be a comedic, bad ass moment, but it wasn't executed well.
I feel like the robots are more impressive conceptually to people removing them from the movie, watching gifs or talking about them. Going in blank there was a bunch of robots, that could make cool toys, that mattered very little in the actual film. They didn't differentiate themselves from each other much, and were destroyed before you even knew them as part of the defense fleet. I didn't care about any of them going down. I identified more with the Transformer bots as individual in a team, than I did here. I remember main mech, russians, and the asian triplets. That's about it. I certainly didn't know their names.
And no one predicted that a c lister at best b lister superhero such as Ironman to be as successful as it is today. All we need is one good movie and the rest will fall into place.
i thought she said something to him.
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and.. i think she said "Aishiteru"
which, im not sure, i think means "i love you"
Rodney McKay
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I think the only thing I was a little disappointed about is the monster variety
I LOVED the giant crab/lobster enemy in the flashback memory scene. I wanted to see more like that. They mention in the movie that there were ones that looked distinctly different, like sharks, insects, etc. I definitely would have loved to have seen more unique, Godzilla style monsters, like a Smog Monster, Biollante, King Ghidora, or the Praying Mantis dude.
I understand the reasoning; most of the monsters in this movie were made around the same time so they're kind of the same "breed" for lack of a better word. Thankfully they are at least visually distinct from each other like the knife-head, the fat one, the spitting bird one, the underwater snake, and the Cat. 5 one with the tentacles/tails.
But for me having them look, sound, and act REALLY different from one another would have made this even better for me.
I still definitely loved the movie, though. Probably my favorite summer blockbuster this year beating out Star Trek by a bit. Into Darkness was a ton of fun as well (it does have the benefit of DECADES of nostalgia), but it had even more stupid moments and plot holes than Pacific Rim had:
I LOVED the giant crab/lobster enemy in the flashback memory scene. I wanted to see more like that. They mention in the movie that there were ones that looked distinctly different, like sharks, insects, etc. I definitely would have loved to have seen more unique, Godzilla style monsters, like a Smog Monster, Biollante, King Ghidora, or the Praying Mantis dude.
I understand the reasoning; most of the monsters in this movie were made around the same time so they're kind of the same "breed" for lack of a better word. Thankfully they are at least visually distinct from each other like the knife-head, the fat one, the spitting bird one, the underwater snake, and the Cat. 5 one with the tentacles/tails.
But for me having them look, sound, and act REALLY different from one another would have made this even better for me.
I still definitely loved the movie, though. Probably my favorite summer blockbuster this year beating out Star Trek by a bit. Into Darkness was a ton of fun as well (it does have the benefit of DECADES of nostalgia), but it had even more stupid moments and plot holes than Pacific Rim had:
Cold Fusion bomb to freeze a volcano? That's not what cold fusion is! And how did they end up in the Earth's atmosphere when they were STATIONARY right next to the moon only minutes early. Ugh, come on Trek writers, could you at least TRY?
Razgriz-Specter
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That whole scene with Mako activating the plasma cannon and almost blowing up the Shatterdome (awesome name), with Tendo trying to shut it down and not working...straight out of the sci-fi/mecha anime tropes box of "the controls aren't working, can't shut her off!"
Reminded me of the various times in Evangelion, where Maya can't do shit with the Evas when she's commanded to shut them off or do something to them while in battle.
Reminded me of the various times in Evangelion, where Maya can't do shit with the Evas when she's commanded to shut them off or do something to them while in battle.
Spaaaaaaaaace
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Just got back, loved it! Will get it on Blu-Ray as soon as it comes out.
I was thinking, Eureka Striker being the state of the art Jaeger - do people think he could have defeated Leatherback and Otachi at the same time in the Harbour? That is of course if Leatherback did not have the Organic EMP.
It looked like he was about to mess some Kaiju up before he got stun-locked...!!
I was also wondering if he could have defeated Otachi in the city by himself since he had also a pair of wrist blades if she decided to take flight with him instead.
It looked like he was about to mess some Kaiju up before he got stun-locked...!!
I was also wondering if he could have defeated Otachi in the city by himself since he had also a pair of wrist blades if she decided to take flight with him instead.
Probably not, although it could have torn them apart 1vs1 (Just look at what happened to the Category 4 that attacked Sydney). Even Gipsy Danger only fought them one at a time; fighting them two at a time is just asking for a Cherno Alpha situation.
I think the fight in the harbor and the city proper was the final battle and the underwater stuff was just the after-sex cigarette. There really wasn't any fight to it, the Jaegers got fucked up and nuked the sea floor. Although the cavitation was glorious.
Well, I just recalled Eureka fighting the Cat.5 by himself and he actually made the Kaiju puss-out... Not saying he could have defeated the Cat.5, but it certainly didnt want to face Eureka again without calling on another Kaiju for backup, after getting a taste of its wristblades.
Against, Leatherback and Otachi, as long as Striker already knows it has two opponents on the field and is not stealth take-downed like Cherno Alpha well...I dont know.
I'm pretty sure Eureka would've been able to take Otachi and Leatherback down without the EMP blast. It was about to nuke Otachi with its chest missles, which likely would've crippled Otachi's maneuverability if it didn't outright die.
As for Leatherback, since it was a brawler, Eureka's blades likely would've taken care of it fairly quickly.
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I think so. I mean, there must have been a reason the Leatherback held its EMP back in favor of using it against a single jaeger over two. Striker Eureka was probably top of the dangerous jaegers list in the kaiju hivemind.
Terrible Majesty
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ATTENTION Guillermo Del Toro!!!
Some ideas for Jaeger names:
Salvo Thunder
Thrasher Absalom
Preacher Havoc
Amen Breaker
Goliath Equinox
Inferno Avalon
Titan Atlantis
Draco Calypso
Scorcher Tornado
Scorpio Vendetta
Feel free to mix and match.
The scariest part for me was when his brother was eaten at the very beginning. I didn't think he would die so horrendously. Also the death of China and Russia jaegars...
Some ideas for Jaeger names:
Salvo Thunder
Thrasher Absalom
Preacher Havoc
Amen Breaker
Goliath Equinox
Inferno Avalon
Titan Atlantis
Draco Calypso
Scorcher Tornado
Scorpio Vendetta
Feel free to mix and match.
The scariest part for me was when his brother was eaten at the very beginning. I didn't think he would die so horrendously. Also the death of China and Russia jaegars...
sol_bad
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Hey, Voltron never got his sword out straight away!!!
Didn't have an obvious alternative? The main character was working on the coastal wall so I don't know how you missed it. We also see a Kaiju break through said wall like it was nothing. And the program wasn't working out well, pilots were dying left and right to the point where there were only 3 jaegers left at the end.
1/2 my friends didn't like it, the other 1/2 thought it was awesome. I really liked it, especially the mech battles. Movie had its problems... it was a cheese factory and that sword was too powerful to just pull out at the last minute. That aside I had a big grin during the fights. IMax 3D was awesome.
It's obvious, he just had to upgrade his sword skill by using an oil tanker first before he could use the real thing.
Dammit!
Sanchito
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Wow. According to that page, it was shot near my hometown.
blindrocket
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Analog = Nuclear
Digital = ???
And I'm sure everyone knew well in advance that the nuclear Gipsy Danger was going to be used as a bomb, right?
Digital = ???
And I'm sure everyone knew well in advance that the nuclear Gipsy Danger was going to be used as a bomb, right?
This did bother me and actually un-suspended my disbelief. EMP's do not work like that.
Evolution_1ne
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goddamnit I need to stop thinking about this, it's making me hate the movie now
How the fuck do we not have the resources to build Jaegers but somehow we have the resources and man power to build a massive fucking wall that can block out the entire pacific ocean......... that literally makes no sense at ALL
How the fuck do we not have the resources to build Jaegers but somehow we have the resources and man power to build a massive fucking wall that can block out the entire pacific ocean......... that literally makes no sense at ALL
I'm fairly certain the movie explained that it wasn't a lack of resources to fund the Jaeger project but a lack of faith in its effectiveness.
What confused me on my second-run is that I noticed the entire city of Hong Kong had been "turned back on" the moment Gipsy Danger entered the fray. Sure, it added some nice lighting to the battle, but it kinda ruined the whole shock of the EMP blast since its only effects only lasted for Striker Eureka's scene.
Vicetrailia
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The problem with movies like these is that it's hard to disconnect from would-be technologies. Such as, where are the super satellites above the earth atmosphere that deliver the first blow?
I don't get why they would focus on a wall that's only a little taller than the monsters themselves, they can just climb or jump over it. Also, why wasn't the wall fitted with some type of giant super weapon?
I don't get why they would focus on a wall that's only a little taller than the monsters themselves, they can just climb or jump over it. Also, why wasn't the wall fitted with some type of giant super weapon?
UnluckyKate
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Eureka Striker's engine are electrical. Cherno Alpha is petrol and Gispy is Nuclear.
Still, it doesn't make any sens because even the russian archaic design have electrical component so the emp would have fried any short circuit inside too. (and you know there are many electrical safety to any pressurized petrol super engine or nuclear reactor powering a walking giant robot)
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