That depends on if a sequel ever gains traction.
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That depends on if a sequel ever gains traction.
Cameron122
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This is the less stupid theory. When I saw the movie I thought they meant the dinosaurs were Kaiju, and it took me right out of the movie
For a moment.
SPACECADET
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Maybe they go by RTS rules and had to work up their rations to put out stronger infantry :3
Vulcano's assistant
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Knifehead looked cool as fuck. Inspiration from Guiron is so obvious too.
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Showa Gamera . . . yeah lol.
And I think Knifehead was the first one designed by Barlowe, so it is the inspiration for the rest of the Kaiju (not all of them of course)
Deified Data
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The way I interpreted it, they attempted an incursion during pre-history and were unable to establish a foothold because the climate was incompatible with their physiology. They weren't the dinosaurs and they didn't kill the dinosaurs. They just poked their heads in briefly and left.
Was Knifehead the first of the Cat.3s? They said the prime of the Jaeger program was 2019 (when they had 30 Jaegers active).
They were stomping Cat.2s so much it became a sport, but Knifehead was the start of the Jaeger loosing streak when it died taking down Gipsy Danger (2020) with it.
From there, the Category 3s were taking down Mark-3s like Gipsy Danger and it was never a sure win for the Jagers anymore. In 2024, 14 Kaiju attacked and took down 8 Jaegers with them.
Category 1-3 were the attack dogs testing the defenses while Category 4+ were meant to be the exterminators. That's why "Legends" like Alpha and Typhoon who survived and beatdown the Category 3s (that decimated the other 26 Jaegers) got punked by Category 4s.
That's what I got too.
Vulcano's assistant
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^^ Otachi and Leatherback were not just remarkably vicious, but they were clearly specialized to take down the remaining Jaegers. I would even say that if the alien were receiving information from each battle, then the two were designed to stomp Striker Eureka.
It didn't have swords! But yeah, when Raiju was split in half that was Mako alone, since Raleigh lost his arm of GD, and Mako was controlling the one he had problems with.
It didn't have swords! But yeah, when Raiju was split in half that was Mako alone, since Raleigh lost his arm of GD, and Mako was controlling the one he had problems with.
Maybe it was just buffed up from before. Idk if it having nuke parts made up for it but it really did seem like it was a whole new jaeger
Solideliquid
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SWORD! Awesome film.
Gipsy Danger's first defeat was when the two brothers were complacent and turned their back towards a Category 3 they didnt know about.
Also, the new Gipsy Danger was upgraded with TWO SWORDS, TWO Nuclear Reactors, and the pilots were fighting FOR THEIR FAMILY POWA...!!!
the way i see it when i watch the movie was that the kaiju was what took out the dinosaurs too
Deified Data
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This is a very good point. Gipsy curbstomped so many Kaiju because he was the wildcard, the one Jaeger they weren't prepared to face.
I have 2 theories for this.
1. In the movie after the first quarter kaiju brain link, the scientist said that the lower category kaijus were just to clear the coastline. If the low cat kaijus are enough to destroy the entire human population, there is no need to send high cat kaijus.
2. Kaijus were mind-linked 2 way. They kept learning about human fighting styles and kept evolving (i.e. EMP blast, acid, flight, etc). The more abilities and skills the aliens put into the kaijus probably made them bigger. After all all kaijus are clones.
my theory was that when newt drifted, the hive mind learned some of human's technology, and they made leatherback with emp capabilities because they know most things in our world are using electricity
Terrible Majesty
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Gipsy Danger is so shiny. I'm Liking GD more and more. If I was a kid I woukd.get that 18 inch GD Neck figure.
Love GAF so much for its deep.discussion on what many dismiss as a simple mindless brawlfest for menchildren
My understanding is that Gipsy got tweaked like a motherfucker and it did still took down the Category 3 in the beginning anyway. The only reason Raleigh's brother got iced is because they got sloppy and didn't double tap.
To be honest, if both Kaijus would have been present and not split up. Gipsy would have had to give up an arm and a leg just to beat both kaijus at the same time.
This video clip illustrates perfectly why I wasn't super impressed with the fight scenes in this movie. In that Big O clip you have both Megadeuses using all of their tools in creative ways and pulling off crazy maneuvers in addition to just fist fighting. In Pacific Rim, despite the Jaegers having some cool weaponry, the fights mostly devolve into relatively uninteresting fist fighting. Gypsy Danger had that sweet ass sword it used for all of 3 seconds, Striker Eureka had that sweet missile pod it used once in a damn flashback, and we don't know what Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon could do because they go down like bitches. To be fair, the Kaiju are more or less mindless beasts so they would fight like it but a little more creativity in the fights themselves would of gone a long way for me.
Or maybe I hyped the fight scenes up so much in my head they were bound to disappoint. Eh that's probably the right answer.
Newt must have also taught them that Cherno was susceptible to surprise piggy-back rides.
:'(
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What's stopping you?
But yeah, when I first saw images of GD I thought "Here comes the generic lead mech - can't be too cool or it'll scare people off". Then it starts wielding ship-swords, chopping up Kaiju in the stratosphere, and flinging itself. You really have to see it in motion to get the appeal.
Biolante is the best.Otachi, fucking beast. Acid was Super Effective!
We don't get an explanation, but basic logic dictates that they couldn't, not that they chose not to.
The Guiron resemblance is obvious, but I like to think they also got some inspiration from the goblin shark.
(I love that gif)
they drifted again with the intact kaiju brain
Well the first brain was only a fragment of a brain, so Newt only received fragments of information.
The second brain was a whole (albeit young) brain which was fully tapped into the Kajiu hive mind, so Newt and the other scientist had much fuller access to the kaiju's knowledge set and was therefore able to pick up on the barrier info.
Godzilla vs Biollante, one of my favorite G flicks period. Hell probably is my favorite now that I think about it. So happy they released it on Blu-ray. Also, I can see that goblin shark in there too, nice catch.
Hahahahaha. Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla really is terribad. I always wanted to see it as a child, because Space Godzilla is badass, but Jesus that movie is boring as dirt.
It's my favorite Godzilla flick too... Which doesn't mean much when I've only seen Godzilla vs Biollante and Godzilla vs Space Godzilla (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL).
That's an interpretation that works better that what I thought during the film.
They delivered the dinosaur line so offhand and ambiguously, and I took it to mean the kaiju were the dinosaurs which didn't sit well.
ThoseDeafMutes
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That's what I thought too, but people here seem to disagree.
Love that movie too. Used to be my top one too until I saw Zilla get curb stomped by Godzilla in Final Wars. That alone pushed it to the top for me.
Terrible Majesty
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What's stopping you?
But yeah, when I first saw images of GD I thought "Here comes the generic lead mech - can't be too cool or it'll scare people off". Then it starts wielding ship-swords, chopping up Kaiju in the stratosphere, and flinging itself. You really have to see it in motion to get the appeal.
I can't justify spending so much money on it when i would rather spend it.on other things. Like their ED209
Another thing I just thought about is that maybe the portal got stronger as time passed. This could explain them able to send more kaijus in shorter time frames and also more kaijus with each wave.
This could also mean that the portal was unable to cope with the size of larger kaijus in the beginning.
That's pretty much what I thought. Portal started off small and weak...as time goes on, it got larger and more stable, able to handle larger and more frequent kaijus.
ThoseDeafMutes
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People posted earlier about the old versions of the script stating that the portal has to stabilize over time, which allows them to send Kaiju through with increasing frequency. Even though it's not in the script anymore, it still seems like the rest of the story is built around that.
In speculation land, you could say that the portal was opened, the dinosaurs were killed, and then closed again. They periodically reopen it to have a look around and see if the climate is right. Each time they reopen it it has to re-stabilize.
The problem with the dinosaur thing is that it doesn't make much sense to wait so long and just hope that the climate would eventually favor their colonization. They could have sent through lifeforms to terraform the planet much faster. People also say "oh you know, maybe time goes way faster for them", but if that was true there's no way they could possibly pump out Kaiju fast enough to do anything. If a month for them is ten million years for us we should have an unbeatable industrial advantage, there's fucking no way they could compete because everything would happen in slomo.
That sounds very plausible.
Maybe the aliens are not able to terraform themselves, and are only able to wait until the climate is ready for them. I think I heard one of the scientist (after the quarter brain kaiju mental handshake) say that CO2 was at an appropriate level for them.
Another posibility is that they had an array of worlds they could have colonized, and Earth got pushed all the way back because it was not ready. So when it was Earth's turn again they poked their heads back in here again to check and found Earth to finally be colonizable.
From the comic it's stated that driving a jaeger is very physically and mind consuming. You need to be in top condition.
As for the 2nd point. This is a very important mission. They couldn't risk greenhorns with no real experience screwing anything up. It was their last chance to blow up the portal.
They get jostled quite a bit in the jaeger; the Aussie dad would have needed some serious painkillers that might have impaired his combat ability. They might have also preferred to keep each pilot on the hand they're used to; it can be very disconcerting to have everything reversed so soon after a battle.
Also, this is a last ditch mission. If it fails, it's probably all over. Stacker dying isn't too much of a problem; if the plan works, he won't be needed, and if it doesn't, there won't be any jaegers for him to order around anyway.
This idea pretty much sits most comfortable with me. The Aliens (Precursors) didnt just sit by for 65 million years twiddling their thumbs wondering, "You think Earth is ready yet?" They were busy scouting/colonizing other worlds/dimensions while working on their cloning and dimensional travel technology.
In the original script during the Kaiju drift, the scientist actually see a glimpse of an unlimited amount Kaiju being grown in a watery world. So the Precursors pretty much had an army of Kaiju on their side of the Breach, just waiting for the portal to stabilize to a big enough size to send platoons of Kaiju at once.
In the original script they actually did send a swarm through in the last battle, where Eureka Striker was fighting all of them at once while Gipsy Danger runs for the portal to detonate and close it.
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KOIJU? AH DA FUCKIN' CALLED 'EM SHAZWAZZAS
WOW. The bolded sounds so over the top and non-believable for Eureka Striker to take on so many that I love it.
Idris Elba is piloting so...he can make it happen...!!
It would be interesting to see if people would have considered that final battle anti-climatic compared to the one we got, which some people do.
They were able to sense him after the 1st Kaiju drift because it was a 2 way connection.
Does anyone know about Hannibal Chau's attempt at Kaiju drift? Was he also attacked by Kaiju? Did they stop looking for him?
The sword reminded me of Ivy's Whip Sword from Soul Calibur. It would've been fucking sick to see them utilize it that way.
Anyway, I enjoyed the movie, perfect summer popcorn flick. Idris Elba is a badass, the movie was really fun, and the over the top scientist and command deck was as over the top as the movie itself. It all fit together in this anime-ish kinda way, loved it. Definitely Bluraying this flick, just beautiful visuals all together.
My gripes were that the other Jaegers definitely died waaaaayy too early. It really sucked. I wanted to see more of them. I understand that Elba's character was disappointed with Becket and Mako, but he literally watched two crews die before he sent them. Like, lol come on. It was annoying, cause after that happens Danger appears there without any hassles. It was super generic from a plot standpoint, but it didn't need anything deep to begin with. Plus I think the world is pretty fleshed out, and ripe with backstory- so I can overlook the generic plot points.
I hope we get some sequel. I REALLY love the world they created in this film.
Anyway, I enjoyed the movie, perfect summer popcorn flick. Idris Elba is a badass, the movie was really fun, and the over the top scientist and command deck was as over the top as the movie itself. It all fit together in this anime-ish kinda way, loved it. Definitely Bluraying this flick, just beautiful visuals all together.
My gripes were that the other Jaegers definitely died waaaaayy too early. It really sucked. I wanted to see more of them. I understand that Elba's character was disappointed with Becket and Mako, but he literally watched two crews die before he sent them. Like, lol come on. It was annoying, cause after that happens Danger appears there without any hassles. It was super generic from a plot standpoint, but it didn't need anything deep to begin with. Plus I think the world is pretty fleshed out, and ripe with backstory- so I can overlook the generic plot points.
I hope we get some sequel. I REALLY love the world they created in this film.
I liked that the Jaegers and the pilots died so easily. Made it seem a lot more realistic. So many movies are afraid to kill of the good guys in battle and it makes them seem invincible. This was not even slightly the case here.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Movie was fun.
However, I will never forgive Del Toro for those terrible fucking Australian accents. All those Australian actors overseas and you can't get a couple of them to play the Aussies? Sounded fucking terrible.
However, I will never forgive Del Toro for those terrible fucking Australian accents. All those Australian actors overseas and you can't get a couple of them to play the Aussies? Sounded fucking terrible.
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