Lose Yourself by Eminem is the best Hip-Hop song of all time.

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SteeloDMZ said:
8 Mile from the 8 Mile soundtrack is a better song than Lose Yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfMrLTbog0o

Fucking phenomenal. That being said, it doesn't have that special something that LY has.

And lol at some people posting these random ass underground songs. Yeah, I'd like to see those songs reaching the type of worldwide appeal and universal praise of Love Yourself.
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A Tribe Called Quest, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mobb Deep, etc. are not random ass underground artists. If you don't know the back catalog don't step into the arena (another random ass hip hop reference).
 
It is one of the few rap songs I know every word to, but nope. One of the best mainstream radio rap songs, I'll give you that.

I know people are gonna shit on "mainstream radio rap", though.
 
Blearth said:
11 years would be more accurate.

Encore, Relapse and Recovery were all trash.
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yep
thoseAREmySHOES said:
It is one of the few rap songs I know every word to, but nope. One of the best mainstream radio rap songs, I'll give you that.

I know people are gonna shit on "mainstream radio rap", though.
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nothings wrong with all mainstream rap but most of it is complete shit. Em, Kanye,Kendrick and a few others are the exception
 
see5harp said:
A Tribe Called Quest, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mobb Deep, etc. are not random ass underground artists. If you don't know the back catalog don't step into the arena (another random ass hip hop reference).
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I was talking about that elzhi dude some guy posted.
 
KINGofCRA5H said:
Hip hop? fuck no.

Rap? maybe. MAYBE.
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KINGofCRA5H said:
I wonder how many people here actually know the difference between rap and hip hop?
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Represent. said:
No one really separates the two in this day and age...

Rap = rhythm and poetry

hip hop = more about the feel/dance/beat.
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People really think they're two different genres?

This is the true tragedy of this thread.

Edit: Oh and mainstream success/awards/sales is not the only criteria for the quality of music.
 
see5harp said:
I can't really tell of hopsin fans are being serious because of how terrible dude is. Guy is still rocking weird contact lenses like he's desperate to get invited to the gathering of the juggalos.
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sorry hopsin is willing to confront and preach against the ills of society unlike all the other rappers that wallow in it and profit from the misery of others. I'd rather have someone wear contact lenses than rap about molly all day (which is 99.999999999% of rap music). Not sure why you are bringing up that gathering of juggalos since a lot of those murder rappers show up there (rza, bun b, master p). myself and all my friends in the suburbs agree that this kid is gonna be the next kanye (another rapper who speaks against of the ills of society)
 
Even if someone did post some random underground artist, if his shit is better, its better. It shouldn't matter how many copies it sells or how many people have heard it before.
 
Damn you OP you got me back listening to Eminem again:

Rap Game

I'ma get snuffed, cause I ain't said enough to pipe down
I pipe down, when the (White House) just wiped out
When I see that little (Cheney) dike get sniped out
Lights out, bitch adios, goodnight [gunshot] (AHH!)
Now put that in ya little pipe and bite down
Think for a minute cause the hype has died down
That I won't go up in the Oval Office right now
And flip whatever ain't tied down upside down
I'm all for America, fuck the government
Tell that C. Delores Tucker slut to suck a dick
Motherfuck ducked, what the fuck? son of a bitch
Take away my gun, I'm gonna tuck some other shit
Can't tell me shit about the tricks of this trade
Switchblade, with a little switch to switch blades
And switch from a six to a sixteen inch blade
Shit's like a samurai sword or sensai
Shit just don't change to this day
I'm this way, still tell that utslay itchbay
Ucksay my ikcday, 'scuse my igpay atinlay
But uckfay you igpay
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Hellbound so sick and the Soul Calibur Theme

Yo.. Slim Shady!
Yo.. I'll fuckin.. I'll..
I'll puke, eat it, and freak you (eww)
Battle? I'm too weeded to speak to
The only key that I see to defeat you
would be for me to remove these two Adidas and beat you
and force feed you 'em both, and on each feet is a cleat shoe
I'll lift you off your feet so fast with a roundhouse
you'll think I pulled the fuckin ground out from underneath you
(Bitch!) I ain't no fuckin G, I'm a cannibal
I ain't tryin to shoot you,
I'm tryin to chop you into pieces and eat you
Wrap you in rope and plastic, stab you with broken glass
and have you with open gashes strapped to a soakin mattress
Coke and acid, black magic, cloaks and daggers (ahhh!)
Fuck the planet, until it spins on a broken axis
I'm so bananas I'm showin up to your open casket
to fill it full of explosive gasses
and close it back with a lit match in it
while I sit back and just hope it catches
Blow you to fragments
Laugh, roll you and smoke the ashes
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And Always though this song was so funny best of old old Eminem:

As the world Turns

I met a slut and said "What up, its nice to meet ya"
I'd like to treat ya to a Faygo and a slice of pizza
But I'm broke as fuck and I don't get paid till the first of next month
But if you care to join me, I was bout to roll this next blunt
But I ain't got no weed, no phillies, or no papers
Plus I'm a rapist and a repeated prison escapist
So gimme all your money
And don't try nothing funny
Cause you know your stinking ass is too fat to try to outrun me
I went to grab my gun
That's when her ass put it on me
Wit an uppercut and hit me with a basket of laundry
I fell through the glass doors
Started causing a scene
Then slid across the floor and flew right into a washing machine
Jumped up with a broken back
Thank god I was smocking crack all day
And doped up off coke and smack
All I wanted to do was rape the bitch and snatch her purse
Now I wanna kill her
But so I gotta catch her first
Ran through Rally's parkin lot and took a shortcut
Saw the house she ran up in
And shot her fucking porch up
Kicked the door down to murder this divorced slut
Looked around the room
That's when I seen the bedroom door shut
I know you're in there bitch! I got my gun cocked!
You might as well come out now
She said "Come in, its unlocked!"
I walked in and all I smelled was Liz Claiborne
And seen her spread across the bed naked watching gay porn
She said "Come her big boy, lets get acquainted"
I turned around to run, twisted my ankle and sprained it
She came at me at full speed, nothing could stop her
I shot her five times and every bullet bounced off her
I started to beg "No, please let go"
But she swallowed my fucking leg whole like an egg roll
With one leg left, now I'm hoppin around crippled
I grabbed my pocket knife and sliced off her right nipple
Just trying to buy me some time, then I remembered this magic trick
Den Den Den Den Den Den, Go go gadget dick!
Whipped that shit out, and ain't no doubt about it
It hit the ground and caused an earthquake and power outage
I shouted "Now bitch, lets see who gets the best!"
Stuffed that shit in crooked and fucked that fat slut to death (Ah!! Ah!)
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Var said:
Even if someone did post some random underground artist, if his shit is better, its better. It shouldn't matter how many copies it sells or how many people have heard it before.
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YO WORD! You heard that new Taleb Qwali?
 
To me the song that personifies hiphop music is Respiration by Talib/Mos/Common. I just feel like if someone said "I've never heard a rap song before, in one song show me what it's about", I'd direct them to that.

So that says a lot about it I guess.
 
SteeloDMZ said:
TES is his best album mang.
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Good god. That album was painful at the time and worse in retrospect. A thirty year old man spending his album trying to start beef with the Olson twins and boy bands. It was embarrassing. It took everything that I didn't like about SS LP and MM LP and put them at the forefront. Yuck.
 
freenudemacusers said:
sorry hopsin is willing to confront and preach against the ills of society unlike all the other rappers that wallow in it and profit from the misery of others. I'd rather have someone wear contact lenses than rap about molly all day (which is 99.999999999% of rap music). Not sure why you are bringing up that gathering of juggalos since a lot of those murder rappers show up there (rza, bun b, master p). myself and all my friends in the suburbs agree that this kid is gonna be the next kanye (another rapper who speaks against of the ills of society)
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Maybe you and buster posey avatar dude can start a hip hop clinic in Minnetonka or wherever you are from and can teach youth the beauty of all 5 elements. You can hire hopsin to be a youth counselor and buster posey can teach grafitti 101. Do you know breakdance battle guys?

Let's take a moment to consider the fact that this dude just referred to and grouped RZA, Bun B, and Master P together as "murder rappers." Stop talking.

EDIT: Okay this dude is trolling so hard. I took the bait :(
 
Lambtron said:
Good god. That album was painful at the time and worse in retrospect. A thirty year old man spending his album trying to start beef with the Olson twins and boy bands. It was embarrassing. It took everything that I didn't like about SS LP and MM LP and put them at the forefront. Yuck.
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Say what? If you are talking about Without Me, those are just some random lines from a typical joke-type song. The rest of the album is fucking ace: White America, Cleaning Out My Closet, Till. I Collapse, etc. so good.
 
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I just noticed in every hip hop thread Hopsin
or Childish Gambino
always get mentioned

heh
 
Definitely one of my favorite rap songs of all time.

I would say top 5 Eminem songs as well.

My favorite Eminem songs would be..

no order:

Lose Yourself
Stan
Sing For The Moment
Still Don't Give A Fuck
Guilty Conscience

..

Just Don't Give A Fuck
Brain Damage
Role Model
Way I Am
Amityville
Cleanin Out My Closet
Infinite
Marshall Mathers
If I Had
97' Bonnie & Clyde
Rock Bottom
Rabbit Run

Out of his newer stuff that's mostly ass..

Almost Famous
Stay Wide Awake

that might be it.

Shit now I'm in the mood to listen to Eminem again, thanks
 
I just listened to the Slim Shady LP again last week (after having not listened to it in like a year) and, good God, that album is amazing.
 
PigSpeakers said:
I still hear people say this. I shake my head when it's someone in my own age group. I get second hand embarrassment.



I love this track. First heard it on some classics hour on the radio a few years back.
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seek the whole album, man. its great, front to back. Souls of Mischief "'93 til Infinity" is the album name too.
 
SteeloDMZ said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2wA0Te0wM

It's such a fantastic song. I don't think is even the best Eminem song, and he definitely has other stuff that's lyrically more complex and impressive, yet, that doesn't mean much because Lose Yourself is probably the best example of what's so good about hip-hop.

From the very second the song starts, you know that is gonna be special. Eerie/atmospheric intro that sets up the tone for the rest of the record: a tale of an underdog that finally has the chance to achieve the recognition he deserves.

Just fantastic lyrics all around that are relatable to almost anyone and an amazing, instantly recognizable beat that will stay in your mind forever. But what makes this song such a classic is the intensity behind everything. This is an artist at his absolute best; a song that was written and produced by himself, none of that ghostwriter/ghostproducer bullshit. There have been a lot of great rappers that have come out in recent years, but honestly, I doubt I'll ever see anyone rapping at this level.



The song transmits such a feeling of urgency which I find particularly interesting considering that at this point Eminem was already on top of the world and had 2 of the best selling albums of the decade in the US, so he didn't have anything to prove.

Everytime I hear the "I don't like rap, but do like Eminem" argument, this is always, always the song people bring up. It's understandable because Lose Yourself has a huge appeal that transcends the genre.

Lose Yourself is the anthem ball players play at the locker room, boxers use as their entrance theme, EVO players listen to and win tournaments. A masterpiece.

And it won an Oscar
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SteeloDMZ said:
Everytime I hear the "I don't like rap, but do like Eminem" argument, this is always, always the song people bring up. It's understandable because Lose Yourself has a huge appeal that transcends the genre.
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Oh, you mean from white dudes who don't feel comfortable listening to "black" music until a white guy gets good at it?
 
see5harp said:
Dude I'm pretty sure Redman was a member of the D-12.
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Word? Must be before my time. The first time I heard Redman was on the Rollin' remix with Limp Bizkit. Classic.

Speaking of the Dirty Dozen, one could argue that Swifty McVay has a claim to the GOAT throne. Crazy multis.
 
Heel said:
Word? Must be before my time. The first time I heard Redman was on the Rollin' remix with Limp Bizkit. Classic.

Speaking of the Dirty Dozen, one could argue that Swifty McVay has a claim to the GOAT throne.
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speaking of old school stuff, I remember when that snoop dogg guy hit it big after he was in the korn video.
 
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