White Student Union came down to Georgia State
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Angelus Errare
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Mammoth Jones
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Is it being "attacked" where it matters: By a more powerful majority capable of imposing its will on White American Culture? The answer is no.
A few thoughts about the context of White cultural dominance = Attack on White culture? C'mon son....
Wiktor
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When people are hunting lions with riffles I kind of feel sad about those big cats
NYCmetsfan
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The main reason for ethnic groups or organizations is a shared experience.
The shared 'white experience' in America has usually revolved around oppressing non-whites. The only time white as a group is used is when its an issue that is framed as white vs. everyone else. Otherwise white is never used but rather Irish, German, Italian, American. Whites don't really self-identify as white when there is no "other" what shared thing do all whites share?
Its this dynamic that makes 'white entertainment television' such an appalling concept. White is almost never used as a framing device without more sinister motives to express the idea that others are lesser, not normal or outside the mainstream
The shared 'white experience' in America has usually revolved around oppressing non-whites. The only time white as a group is used is when its an issue that is framed as white vs. everyone else. Otherwise white is never used but rather Irish, German, Italian, American. Whites don't really self-identify as white when there is no "other" what shared thing do all whites share?
Its this dynamic that makes 'white entertainment television' such an appalling concept. White is almost never used as a framing device without more sinister motives to express the idea that others are lesser, not normal or outside the mainstream
Wiktor
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All I see is everybody is throwing fit because bunch of students want to celebrate being white. It's silly, it's hypocritical and it's distriminatory. If they actually start doing anything racist..sure, close them down, but the histerical reaction people have in this thread if just plain hilarious.
Mammoth Jones
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Not so much throwing a fit. But it's an interesting conversation to have. And it's always nice to share views. Even if I disagree. So no need to be so defensive. It's a double standard? Well since you mention history I'd like to point out there's been a long history of double standards in America so, um, yea.. Cry me a river.
Like I've already said: The reasons why such cultural groups were initially formed were because they were outside of the White norm. And at the time such people found no welcome in mainstream White American society so they created their own groups. Please stop ignoring this fact.
MorisUkunRasik
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To go back to the analogy, white americans aren't literally or metaphorically being hunted with rifles
Nah, it's not hypocritical or discriminatory. Like it's been stated in here, there are clubs for international/foreign students as well as clubs that celebrate Jewish Irish etc heritage. This is just a bunch of morons creating the college club equivalent of WET.
I think of this White Student union the same way I think of MRA's, heterosexual pride and other crap similar from already privileged groups. Their culture is already the mainstream and it also extends beyond their countries borders, this to me is like a mockery of the civil rights movements and other liberation movements.
Say hello to the NRA for me.
Deified Data
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You'd have to have the intellectual and philosophical purity of a God to belong to a white pride group and not be a racist. I don't believe these people exist. That road is poisonous, and racism permeates every fiber of it.
How is promoting white supremacy going against social norms? America was founded on the concept.
MorisUkunRasik
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They should allow only those who have completed a womens studies and 1 minority studies course to join.
Seriously though, they can celebrate their white american culture in just about any club that isn't specifically formed to talk about minority issues. In highschool just about every club's side chatter was composed of the latest TV/Movie/Videogame discussion
Seriously though, they can celebrate their white american culture in just about any club that isn't specifically formed to talk about minority issues. In highschool just about every club's side chatter was composed of the latest TV/Movie/Videogame discussion
my school accepted a criminal justice course I took at a junior college as a minority studies class.
Deified Data
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Precisely. In the United States at least, white culture is mainstream culture. Every day is a celebration of white culture. We don't face institutional discrimination, so we don't have that to bond over. That's why I feel like the only "specialty" subject a white club could really have to talk about is white exceptionalism or superiority.
How exactly does something like this happen in Atlanta of all places? I could somewhat understand it coming from a back end rural town, but Atlanta? It's one of the more multicultural and diverse places in the US. There's the old south, and than Atlanta sort of caught up in between.
Lonewolf_92
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"White Culture" is the biggest crime perpetrated by racist groups on their own ethnicity. There is no such thing. There is American Culture, which by it's very nature is open to all regardless of ethnicity, and there is their Ancestral Culture, which is based on where their family originated. Most live in the day to day in a blend of the two, although I doubt how I grew up, as a Scotch-Irish/Native American, would mirror exactly how another American whose of Polish ancestry did (not a lot of Śledzie in my ancestral cuisine, for example). I doubt anyone would give a second thought to a Celtic Union or a Polish Union if there was a large enough student body for it.
It's not the prevalent attitude today.
It kind of is though, it's just more subtle.
The Masculism Squad!
TheAbsolution
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That's what I was saying when I went to orientation in the last 2 weeks. There were so many ladies.
That's one of the awesome things I loved about that school were all the beautiful ladies. ^.^
AllIsOneIsNone
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We're surrounded.
Lonewolf_92
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Depends, does vodka mix good with scotch? ;D
ThisWreckage
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Ivy League schools have been essentially White Student Unions for decades now.
Spring-Loaded
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Some motherfuckas always trying to ice skate uphill.
General Choomin
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white students union: No albinos allowed!
Lamel
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Oh brother...the persecution complex is hilarious. You can have your white student union, but realize what it could symbolize when you take history and context into account.
I'm sure in the past, and the legacies persist today, but with a quick google search, most if not all Ivy Leagues have 35+% minority enrollment.
Oh god I feel so bad for chuckling at this.
I'm sure in the past, and the legacies persist today, but with a quick google search, most if not all Ivy Leagues have 35+% minority enrollment.
Oh god I feel so bad for chuckling at this.
Bay Maximus
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I really don't see the point of being a member outside of maybe being a resume builder in the Bible Belt.
I'm not too sure about that. But I do think some of the upper crust schools tend to have many snooty cliques.
I'm not too sure about that. But I do think some of the upper crust schools tend to have many snooty cliques.
What a stupid point of view to have. So whites, males and heterosexuals have lost the victim olympics, I think that's settled. What does that have to do with their right to organize or even just meet up? How about you wait for them to be assholes before you declare them so.
What does this shit even have to do with "liberation" movements, noone made this comparison but you.
Those posts are so strange. You know there are asian student unions for example right? What exactly is so similar between the experiences of a Pakistani child and the child of Japanese migrants? Or let's say a philipino?
arglebargle
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no, and scotch comes from scotland, not ireland. irish whiskey comes from ireland. i guess we need a white union to educate everyone after all.
and i agree with the argument that a white union doesnt make sense because (speaking as a person of mixed european descent), when asked about my ethnicity, i do not identify as white, but usually irish because thats predominantly what i am. if people ask for more information i give them the other, smaller contributions (german and english).
Boom Boom Pow
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why not just call themselves the European Descendent Student Union?
No one would care.
No one would care.
I don't think there is one but that just makes me think, "Chinese, Japanese, both asian right?"
Something really absurd about people of mixed race being racist. The Nazis would not have been fond of many of them 
I would love for every single "non-white" student on that campus to join their disgusting White Student Union, it would put an end to it fairly quickly, or result in a situation where the White Students Union would be shut down by the University Administration.
Also, in answer to the question above, the Irish don't feel any particular cameraderie with the russians (or any other european country, really). Australia and the United States, perhaps.
I would love for every single "non-white" student on that campus to join their disgusting White Student Union, it would put an end to it fairly quickly, or result in a situation where the White Students Union would be shut down by the University Administration.
Also, in answer to the question above, the Irish don't feel any particular cameraderie with the russians (or any other european country, really). Australia and the United States, perhaps.
XANDER CAGE
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Everyone should watch the short Vice documentary on them (and maybe read the article) and then get back to this thread.
Dude is an old-school racist and actively antagonizes the BSU and other organizations trying to provoke a reaction.
Dude is an old-school racist and actively antagonizes the BSU and other organizations trying to provoke a reaction.
Hot Coldman
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I'm guessing they don't spend much time talking about white people at these things.
Well, gee, do white people have hundreds of years of history of violence, oppression and the very real threat of people wanting to hold them back today?
googleplex
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You mean in an alternate universe where white people are discriminated against, and disadvantaged by systemic institutionalized racism?
Other wise your post make zero sense. .
I imagine they aren't being outwardly racist at most of their meetings.
"White people need to form a sense of white identity! Because we're getting it taken away by Bl... by, er... Society! Yes! Society and their stupid basketball shorts and deep voices!"
That's my only issue really. I think a club to sit around and chat about how cool white people are is fine, but if all you're going to do is bitch about everyone else and find ways to oppose anything that promotes an equilibrium, you can bollocks.
Hot Coldman
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Yeah, of course, of course. Not that it matters if they were, seeing as pretty much everyone can see through their disguises.
Ya, I think the main problem is that history has shown us that a bunch of white dudes getting together to talk about how awesome white people are only leads to bad things later on.
Its because some people like to be selectively racist. It's ok if WE do it, but other people that don't have the same skin color? Oh hell no.
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