Neuromancer
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Yeah me too please. I'm not sure how I'm going to change the MAC address on any of my devices though, that could be a problem.
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New 3DS System Update (StreetPass Relay Feature)
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Samurai_Heart
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
anything that can set an arbitrary SSID and arbitrary mac address for the hotspot can do this
If you have a rooted Android device, you can use this app to make a hotspot with a spoofed MAC address. I haven't gotten it to work for me though.
Tried it. Got Mario from Germany with a pink piece for Starlets I needed. Yay, gaf!
Also, loving all these SSF4 tags I'm finally getting. Usually I only get like 1 every several weeks or months.
El Pescado
Member
So, wait, if I change my MAC address to this and my router name to BestBuy or attwifi I'll get StreetPasses?!
I totally did this earlier today. It works, but kinda kills the "StreetPass" magic of passing by people near you with a 3DS.
But for people like me, that don't take my 3DS out and I'm not going to camp outside of Anime Conventions to get me sum Puzzle Pieces, it's a viable alternative.
There's an 4-to-8 hour limit on street passing on a single relay (mac address), so you'll only be able to get one Street Pass every 4-8 hours (nobody knows for sure).
To fix this issue, just change the MAC Address. I envision a scenario in that, when you want to play your Street Pass Mii games, you rapidly go through 10 pre-set mac addresses (technically, I guess those mac adresses should be from different communities, so you don't put your Street Pass info on all the mac addresses from the same community, because nobody wins in that scenario) and get all the 10 Street Passes your 3DS can hold at once.
Then you'd only be able to do that again in 4 to 8 hours.
But for people like me, that don't take my 3DS out and I'm not going to camp outside of Anime Conventions to get me sum Puzzle Pieces, it's a viable alternative.
There's an 4-to-8 hour limit on street passing on a single relay (mac address), so you'll only be able to get one Street Pass every 4-8 hours (nobody knows for sure).
To fix this issue, just change the MAC Address. I envision a scenario in that, when you want to play your Street Pass Mii games, you rapidly go through 10 pre-set mac addresses (technically, I guess those mac adresses should be from different communities, so you don't put your Street Pass info on all the mac addresses from the same community, because nobody wins in that scenario) and get all the 10 Street Passes your 3DS can hold at once.
Then you'd only be able to do that again in 4 to 8 hours.
This magic never happens for most people in North America.
Conrad Link
Member
I tried this before but didn't get anything.
I honestly have no idea what I'm doing though so that could have something to do with it.
I changed my SSID and MAC address to what I think was the right thing, it said Nintendo Zone on the 3DS but didn't get anything while in sleep mode.
My wireless router just says " Wan Mac Address > " and then it has my one I assume, is that the one I change or is there supposed to be something different?
I honestly have no idea what I'm doing though so that could have something to do with it.
I changed my SSID and MAC address to what I think was the right thing, it said Nintendo Zone on the 3DS but didn't get anything while in sleep mode.
My wireless router just says " Wan Mac Address > " and then it has my one I assume, is that the one I change or is there supposed to be something different?
Nope, you changed the Mac Address of your WAN (in other words, you changed the mac address your ISP Modem sees). You need to change your WiFi mac address (so you change the Mac Address the 3DS sees).
You still got access to a "Nintendo Zone" because those rely on SSID only, while StreetPass Relay relies on Mac Address. You did upload your Street Pass information, but somebody would need to access a Nintendo Zone with both the SSID (if I'm not mistaken) and the Mac Address you used (in this case, your router's WiFi Mac Address) to be able to retrieve it.
Conrad Link
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Hmm I'm not sure my router can change it then, I can't find the option to do anything else under the settings. 
The programmer in me tells me that this is all databases: The 3DS probably sends some information to a Nintendo server containing the NIntendo Zone SSID they're using, the Mac Address that said Nintendo Zone is using and the Street Pass data information that the 3DS itself has.
Next time somebody from that same SSID+Mac Address pairing hits them, they exchange the Street Pass data on the database with the new one, while sending the previous one to the current system communicating with the server.
So, technically, they could just create whatever Mii Generator Code they have and spit you a random-ass Mii, but that would kinda be more complex than doing what they're doing.
Also, from what i've seen, there's a bunch of confirmed 3DS Mii Exchange reports out there to suggest it's the way I said.
Neuromancer
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OK I'm in my router's settings. I see an option that says
'MAC Cloning
MAC Address Cloning provides the ability to emulate the routers MAC address to appear identical to the original hardware address. Use this feature only if your ISP requires MAC Address authentication'
Then it gives me the option
'Set MAC of Device (broadband or coax connection):
To Physical Address: (insert MAC address here)'
Is that the same as changing the MAC address of the router or is it something completely different?
That's a good question about the password though. Not sure if you can have one or not.
'MAC Cloning
MAC Address Cloning provides the ability to emulate the routers MAC address to appear identical to the original hardware address. Use this feature only if your ISP requires MAC Address authentication'
Then it gives me the option
'Set MAC of Device (broadband or coax connection):
To Physical Address: (insert MAC address here)'
Is that the same as changing the MAC address of the router or is it something completely different?
You can change the SSID (its your phone's name), but you can't change the MAC address unless your phone is jailbroken.
That's a good question about the password though. Not sure if you can have one or not.
Looks like you need to set no security. TOo risky for me.
http://imgur.com/a/a07os#UuDBIYh
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/3DS/comments/1k0g58/setting_up_a_streetpass_relay_at_home/
http://imgur.com/a/a07os#UuDBIYh
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/3DS/comments/1k0g58/setting_up_a_streetpass_relay_at_home/
You can use this on any wireless device that allows you to change SSID and Mac Address OF THE WIFI DEVICE. People have said that it works with Access Security, but it's harder. It's a better way to do it with no protection at all (you could use a Mac Filter whitelist, which is how I have ALL my wifi security set up. Can't be bothered with passwords on all the devices).
The router itself is telling you what that means and what that setting is meant for: It clones the mac address of your Network Card (on the PC) to the router itself, so it reports to the ISP (hint hint) that MAC Address. (some ISPs tie the Mac Address of the computer the Modem is first connected to, and won't give a Internet connection to any other device plugged in it. That's why this option exists in Routers).
The modem connects to your router through a Network Cable on the WAN port, right? So the router then reports that MAC Address to the modem. Your 3DS connects to the router via WiFi, which is an entirely different device, with a different Mac Address (all mac addresses are unique). So no, changing the WAN Mac Address won't help you in this scenario, you need to change the WiFi Mac Address, and not all routers allow this.
Neuromancer
Member
Hmm sounds like I'm fucked then. Oh well
Yeah, but it only takes like a minute to do the tag and then you shut it down. The odds of anyone seeing your connection and doing any damage in that time is pretty minimal.
Well I'm just testing right now. I've put up MAC filtering up, turned off security and changed my SSID to "_The Cloud" with MAC spoofing at 40:53:50:4F:4F:46
I probably did something wrong cause I'm not getting anything. Maybe cause I'm connected to the internet on my main router still?
I probably did something wrong cause I'm not getting anything. Maybe cause I'm connected to the internet on my main router still?
Your 3DS has to be connected to the WiFi Hotspot (with the proper Mac Address) you created. Are you? The 3DS will light up the "NIntendo Zone" icon if it finds a SSID from the Nintendo Zone locations, but it won't actually connect to the internet through that hotspot unless you tell it to.
I don't know if you're running multiple SSIDs at the same time, but the 3DS will connect to the SSIDs by their order configured on the Settings Screen and WON'T disconnect from a currently connected SSID to jump to another, even if it finds the Nintendo Zone SSID. Be sure that the SSID you want to connect ("_The Cloud") is configured as the first Internet Connection on the settings tab. You could always cycle the WiFi on the 3DS itself and it'll jump on the first available SSID (by order).
Be sure that your MAC Address whitelist is working: After configuring the connection on the settings screen, test it and see if the Internet is accessible. On DD-WRT, the default Mac Address Filter option is to PREVENT the listed mac addresses to connect to the network, not to ALLOW them.
Alternatively, just change the MAC Address to those from the Reddit List: There's 10 available ones and the Reddit people are using them. You don't even have to reconnect your 3DS or anything like that: If it's working, simply changing the Mac Address with the 3DS still sleeping will trigger another Mii Streetpass.
I tested the whitelisting and it seems fine. I actually changed my 3DS connection settings so that it won't connect to any of my routers.
I booted up Nintendo Zone and it seems to connect, which seems to suggest I've set up my spoof correctly. Home screen also shows that I'm connected to the internet despite me screwing up my internet connection settings. So I guess I should be good?
Maybe I'm just using a poor MAC spoof
I guess if you typoed your MAC Address or if, somehow, your spoofing didn't take, you would be the first person on that "street pass relay" and wouldn't receive anything. Since you can only connect once to a "street pass relay server" every 4 to 8 hours, you won't be able to test that one again, if somehow your street pass info went through.
I'd go through the Google Docs MAC Address list. Also, wait a little bit in sleep mode: sometimes it's instant, sometimes it takes a minute or two.
Edit: For what's worth, I did it earlier today with a "_The Cloud" SSID and both 40:53:50:4F:4F:46 and 40:53:50:4F:4F:47 mac addresses. Funny thing is that I got the first one, opened my 3DS to see what was up, played some games, closed the 3DS (never disabling the SSID or anything, so the 3DS was always seeing the SSID), changed the Router Mac Address, clicked apply (which I would imagine made the SSID disappear and reappear quickly, as the Router was changing settings) and 30 seconds later, the green light popped again.
I just spoofed your MAC and got a streetpass. Are you "Mr. John" in the fox suit?
Nope, I don't think my shit works. No streetpasses, but it tells me I'm connected to a Nintendo Zone. Oh well
To ask a dumb question, it only has "Clone MAC Address" in the settings. Is it different from Clone Wireless MAC? If so, I don't think I can do it on my device
I think this is the third time i've said this:
Clone Mac Address probably clones the Mac Address of your PC (or whatever you type in) to the Wan mac address of the router (in other words, the Mac Address the router reports to the ISP Modem).
WiFi Mac Address is another thing entirely (as it says, it's the Mac Address that is reported to the WiFi clients of that router) and not all routers allow you to change that.
I guess it takes this many posts to get it to me. Oh well, thanks for helping out
Lysander518
Banned
Has anyone else's battery life in standby greatly improved after the update? I guess it's more like it's back to normal since a past update diminished my battery life in standby.
You can make whatever mac address you want, they will all work.
Only thing is that if you hit them all in succession, and then I go right after you and hit them all in succession as well, we will only get one street pass, because we'll get each other multiple times, since they only hold the last Street Pass packet that went in there. And since we can only connect to a mac address once every 4 to 8 hours, it's not really doable for all involved.
mapachealocado
Member
Thanks for the instructions! Got it to work
tagged Squal from New York. Sorry I don't have much, my previous 3DS with all my pink pieces was stolen...cultureculture
Member
I like how everyone's most recent game is showing up as 'Nintendo Zone viewer' now.
Robin64
Member
Wandered round town last night, which allowed me to pass 10 relays (if O2's site is accurate) and got.. 1 StreetPass! It was some guy who had almost no pieces for older puzzles, but luckily had one I needed for a newer one anyway. Guess I'll go check it out again this morning. Might get some legit passes when town isn't dead, too.
Astral/H3X
Member
This is awesome, we shoupd set up a Gaf specified mac and such.
Hard to say how effective this is. On my post-work grocery shop yesterday I extended a bit and went past four or five relays - but I also passed quite a few people in the process. Got two passes, which isn't bad given that my grocery shop generally gives at most one and that only if I'm lucky, but I can't be sure if that's down to the relays or simply going through a few more crowded areas.
One thing has struck me as odd recently - I'm passing quite a few people who, for certain puzzles, have all the pink blocks and no other ones. How does *that* happen?
Neuromancer
Member
Can anyone tell me what a good cheap router would be that would let me do this?
Robin64
Member
If you passed one of my 3DSes, you'd see that too. I have an old 3DS that just claims pink blocks from my XL in order to help spread them around a bit more.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Maybe rather than a google docs table of MAC addresses is should be a site that gives you a random order and/or co-ordinate it with a group of a people (as in everyone hits up the MAC address at a similar time to replace each other and running in different orders means less chance of overlap).
One possibility is they never started the puzzle outside of streetpassing and do no spend coins on puzzle swap would be my guess. If you want to go by the spare system theory then see if you get 2 tags at a similar time?
cultureculture
Member
I think it'd be good to go on a per-game basis, e.g. have an SMT4 MAC address or MAC address range to get a guaranteed hit for that game. You could setup the addresses with some kind of common identifier (e.g NeoG in hex, then a hex number for the game, and use the last hex number for the range). Then you could just post the MAC address in the first post of the OT.
To everyone worried about having no security for their routers, you can use security.
Just make sure your SSID is correct, set your preferred security and go into System Settings \ Internet Settings and add the connection under connection 2 / 3. It'll still connect to Nintendo Zone and work with streetpasses.
That setup has been working fine for me using DD-WRT.
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Spoke too soon, I guess. Got 2 streetpass hits, but now it refuses to connect on new MAC Addresses.
Just make sure your SSID is correct, set your preferred security and go into System Settings \ Internet Settings and add the connection under connection 2 / 3. It'll still connect to Nintendo Zone and work with streetpasses.
That setup has been working fine for me using DD-WRT.
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Spoke too soon, I guess. Got 2 streetpass hits, but now it refuses to connect on new MAC Addresses.
I went on craigslist and someone is selling the WRT54GL for $20, the router that's linked on reddit. I'm actually considering this....