Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC
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vpance
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Nope, didn't cheer any of that. But I appreciated that there was no major moral compassing surrounding the story lines. Just a bunch of interesting characters interacting and trying to survive.
But now, it seems different. Yes yes Walt is dark, Hank is light, Mr Chips to Scarface, he's a bad guy and a liar. But I guess that was the destination of the whole series, to show that transformation. I think I just prefer the journey more.
who would say such a fucked up thing!?
daily mail readers
Hopefully, Walt has time to blow up the Daily Mail headquarters.
Jack Remington
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I went back and did some catch-up reading, and he's been making this thread almost unreadable for pages and pages now.
Walt's done some bad things, that's for sure, but until Season 5, nothing that couldn't really be justified in context. And then he got out of the game and went back to living a family life. Sure, it's not all hunky-dory, but black is one of the component shades of gray, after all.
Doctor Decimate
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no offense to you for posting it, but does anyone else DESPISE how overused this comparison has become?
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
One thing I might have missed something on when I started rewatching was that early Gus scene where he shows up at the DEA office to promote that charity. When finds out that Walt's got a DEA agent in the family and has cancer, wouldn't that be the point that he stops doing business with him, since the whole intro to his character was about how cautious he was?
Then justify the actions. I assert it is impossible to justify the actions, and thus there is no gray element of Walt any more and hasn't been for quite some time. Instead of complaining about posters, respond to points being made. You'll get further.
As the creator has described the show is basically "Mr chips turning into Scarface" not much room for shades of grey there - when it comes to walts characterization.
Gus was trying to kill Walt since S3. He knew he was a loose cannon.;p
This has been sticking with me.
The condition of the house and the ensuing shots of Walter in the mirror showcase what that Ozymandias poem was referring to.
This scene bothered since I have a hard time believing a suburban neighborhood would let a house fall into decay and reduce the property value of their homes.
A Fifty Shades of Grey / Breaking Bad crossover would be pretty exciting, though.
it might be slated to be condemned after they catch Walt and prosecute him
faceless007
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EdibleExplosives
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Brilliant episode, much better than the opener of the first half of the season.
Lmfao, oh man.
Lmfao, oh man.
Intheflorsh
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Yeah, in season 4 you could make a few arguments in Walt's favor but I don't think the writers are even bothering to add moral ambiguity to Walt's actions now. I honestly don't understand how anyone could still stand up for Walt now- maybe his powers of manipulation have affected the viewers as well.
That scene probably takes place between the time the house was being kept intact for police investigation and before it's due to be either renovated or demolished.
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Jack Remington
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He's out of the game. He left willingly to escape from all the violence that surrounded him. That's a pretty big source of ambiguity, IMO.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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vpance
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Yeah it's their go to phrase for describing the show. I think Cranston uses it in every interview he's done.
I know it's expected, after they explained it over and over to us in PR and behind the scenes clips. It's just that now there's a clear agenda from the writers to pit light against dark. Which is fine, if that's the story they wanted to tell in the end.
That's why I like a show like Mad Men. It's basically just a window into the lives of people who may or may not be assholes or saints at any point in time but it never goes out of its way to tell the audience to take a moral stance. I hope BB doesn't ham fist it too much.
Willkiller
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Tread lightly
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Damn that is amazing
If there was any ambiguity.. I'd think he'd have turned himself in by now as soon as he realized hank was on to him, or at least showed signs of remorse and guilt for his actions. But nope, judging from the opening of both ep9 and 1.. he's going fight hard to escape the consequences of his actions.
#Teamwalt
After last nights episode I turned on Dexter. There must have been 3 or 4 times where I literally rolled my eyes at what was happening, so I just stopped and rewatched Blood Money.
Intheflorsh
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Is there any shred of evidence he left the business because he was affected by the violence? Far more likely is that he left the business due his cancer returning. Also, it's not like Walt turned into a saint after he stopped cooking. He's still lying to Jesse and snubbing Lydia (which will probably condemn her to death).
Jack Remington
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If there was any ambiguity.. I'd think he'd have turned himself in by now as soon as he realized hank was on to him, or at least showed signs of remorse and guilt for his actions. But nope, judging from the opening of both ep9 and 1.. he's going fight hard to escape the consequences of his actions.
Morally gray doesn't mean morally light. There's nothing inconsistent about a morally gray character not wanting to face imprisonment, the seizure of his assets, the humiliation of his family, etc.
Also, let's be real. Every character Walt killed either personally or indirectly was crooked as hell, and aside from Gale, they were all career killers themselves.
Lying to Jesse is kind of like those parents who tell their kids that the family dog went to go live on a farm somewhere. Snubbing Lydia... by refusing to go cook again? How is that something to use against him?
Intheflorsh
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Sign me up.
This the team of those who understand the show, obviously. Which is why Hank will die
gutter_trash
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2nd that, I want Hank to nail Walt
Extra Sauce
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Are people really bothered that Walt has become a bad guy throughout the later seasons of the show? Maybe look up the name of the show.
It's not like all #TeamWalt guys wanna see Hank dead
Hank has every right to 'win' but I got on this train for Walt and I'm not switching vehicles now!Intheflorsh
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... Our viewpoints are irreconcilable if you really think that's a good justification.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm #teamWalt and #teamHank and #teamJesse.
Represent.
Represent.
Dubbedinenglish
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As someone in the foreclosure business this happens all the time.
Jack Remington
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Great post. Saved me a lot of trouble. Amir0x will gloss over this and get right back to trolling, but this is fantastic.
How do you sleep at night when you work in a business that destroys so many lives?
Extra Sauce
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The show will force you to choose before the last episode is over.
You are not prepared.
Bothered by it? No not really. It's entertaining but I'm not rooting for him. I'm just aware that Walt is a despicable guy.
-Pyromaniac-
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but the best part is I can be whichever one is still standing. It's all good!
The One and Done
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AMIR0X trolling is hilarious.
I can get behind that movement.
Jack Remington
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For a page or two, maybe, but when every post is the same crap...
Was it this bad last season?
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