iceatcs
Junior Member
Ah right, must be browser.
I was talking about this - http://www.extremetech.com/computin...worlds-top-benchmarking-and-overclocking-site
Sony's Gamescom Media Briefing On "Release Plans for PlayStation 4"
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Ah right, must be browser.
I was talking about this - http://www.extremetech.com/computin...worlds-top-benchmarking-and-overclocking-site
Vincent4756
Member
so agent isn't dead and we are about 11 hours away from the presser.. hype lvl rising.
now if Infamous gets kicked to launch day I might just die lol
now if Infamous gets kicked to launch day I might just die lol
Really? I've seen plenty of posts along the lines of "I like PS+, but putting multiplayer behind the paywall was a shitty move." I know you've got diehard Sony fans that will defend the move, but there's still plenty who see it as unnecessary, especially when Sony will likely get plenty more subscribers in the upcoming gen in the first place.
I'll say this much though - if first-party games start skimping on dedicated servers after this, I'd imagine there'll be just a few folks with minor resentment toward the move.
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Deleted member 80556
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I'd say it was inflammatory behavior.
If you want to know how not to get banned take a good read of this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390708
TetraGenesis
Member
Hahaha, man, Infamous isn't getting kicked
imo
I'd at least like to see Sony break the PS+ subs into tiers now, so one can at least choose between "original" that doesn't include online MP and ++ or whatever they'd like to call it and include online MP in that. At least give existing PS+ subscribers like myself the choice.
But ultimately I see the F2P exception largely marginalizing the MP paywall for many. I almost expect some of the bigger MP hits like COD or BF to go F2P in another iteration or two.
Krusenstern
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famousmortimer
Banned
It wasn't so much what he said as it was where he said it. This thread is clearly about the PS4. It started as talking about release plans but has naturally transitioned into basically the Sony Gamescom Hype thread. To come in here and start arguments is bannable.
If it was a thread about the differences between MS and Sony - what he said would have been fair game and I don't think a mod would have batted an eyelash at it.
Either that or his very strong pro-microsoft stance in every thread got a mod to check his IP and found out he was a viral marketer. Evidently after E3 there were tons of juniors with similar IPs that all were coming from the same building - a building bish looked up and found out that it housed a viral marketing company. The bans came quick and hard after that - it was pretty damn funny. It kinda scared the legit MS fans though because to the outside eye it seemed like if you said something positive about MS you got banned.
And now i'm totally off topic and am going to get banned. I FELL IN YOUR TRAP!
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Might just be me, but is anyone else looking forward to what Microsoft has to say in a few hours? I'm a Sony boy at heart and am already paying off my PS4 preorder, but I still want to see how Microsoft is countering the blows they have been enduring since May.
RedAssedApe
Banned
go play some games people lol
starwarsfan541
Banned
They arent coming I thought?
They have news just no livestream.
HORRORSHØW
Member
They're having a presser; they're not streaming it.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
TimeEffect
Member
Wait, so Agent is still happening by Rockstar?
I still don't understand how Rockstar owes Sony, and how Sony has let them go. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it, but I never understood what that mess was about.
I still don't understand how Rockstar owes Sony, and how Sony has let them go. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it, but I never understood what that mess was about.
illmatic22
Banned
Fess
Member
Awesome post. If more people thought like you we might actually get a 180 from Sony too. I think way too many defends the whole thing quite blindly just because they like everything else about the console. Sony did so many things right that they've almost managed to make that one wrong thing seem perfectly right too. Atleast judging by the talk around here, we'll see what happens when the mainstreams finds out about it.
nckillthegrimace
Member
I'd love a new Ape Escape. Like a real one and not that move/railshooter nonsense. Also, launch titles that aren't stupid bullshit.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Only in a perfect world this can happen.
Honestly, though, the PS4 launch titles don't look bad at all.
SlowRevolution
Member
That Agent logo is so great and so awful at the same time. Cool to hear it isn't dead.
TetraGenesis
Member
I'm certainly interested! This whole console race has been one big game of hardball! Even though, admittedly, I'm swinging for Sony this gen, I love to see both...batters at the...plate?
I'm not sure where that analogy was going but I think you get my drift.
Thanks for the explanation. Mort, go out on a limb here, if you were told there would be 1 unannounced AAA exclusive PS4 title announced tomorrow, what would be your guess as to what that would be?
*Also, does anyone know a Gamescom stream that will allow me to view in 240p? (my internet is horrid)
Krusenstern
Banned
Apparently L.A. Noire is the culprit. It was once announced as a PS3 exclusive and was funded by SCEA. Rockstar then somehow took over L.A Noire and offered a PS3 exclusive to Sony to compensate this. Don't exactly understand it in detail.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
His computer could also be going to sleep periodically. I noticed that whenever I close my MacBook and come back to it later that I have to refresh the site manually. It never picks back up to the right time by itself.
Yep. All week all I wanted to do was play Tales Of Xillia on my days off. Day off comes and I find myself unable to play, hyped up and continuously refreshing gaf!!!
famousmortimer
Banned
Absolutely. The more heat MS brings the more Sony will have to do to make their customers happy. And I like being happy.
TetraGenesis
Member
My F5 button is about to fall off.
boredandlazy
Member
I assume the PlayStation YouTube channel will be streaming it to.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I love competition, it helps each company get better, but I want Sony to win this generation. Part of the fun of owning a PS2 was knowing you would almost never get shafted on a third party title and all of your friends would also have one. At least, that's how it happened here.
Also, PS2 had SOOOOOOOOOOO many obscure games. Hey, I actually liked Mister Mosquito.
SolidSnakex
Member
Agent is something that the Houser's have been wanting to make since the PS2 days, so they aren't going to kill it. The big problem is that it sounds very ambitious and GTA is always going to take priority over a new IP at Rockstar North.
TetraGenesis
Member
Mister goddamn Mosquito...
That's honestly one of the first titles I think off when people talk about Gen 8 possibly ushering a glorious return to mid-level, quirky titles (alongside top-level AAA and bottom-level Indies -- funding-wise).
you think the playstation youtube channel will be able to view in 240p?
nckillthegrimace
Member
There's nothing all that exciting there. And that's fine, I guess, but I'd like another reason to get a launch PS4 beyond being a new thing.
famousmortimer
Banned
Tough call.
I could see Guerilla's new IP since they are one of their biggest developers in Europe... but at the same time I know a lot two-team companies only like to show one game at a time so I could see it being kept dark until after KZ:SF launches (in november
).Xdev has something cooking but I don't know that it will be AAA.
Chances of Uncharted before the VGAs seems highly unlikely...
Anything japanese would be at TGS.
Really tough call. There's obviously games I don't know about. There's probably teams that I don't know about. Like, for instance, when Liverpool moved in with Evolution maybe they became a two team studio and Wipeout isn't dead. Now, I HAVE NOT HEARD EVEN A PEEP OF THAT FROM ANYONE. That's total conjecture on my part. But an announcement like that wouldn't surprise me. I think this gen we will see successful devs add second teams moreso than opening completely new studios. It's worked out really well for Naughty Dog and others in the last few years.
I guess my final answer is "something third party." And I don't know what that would be. But if I'm sony I want to show strong third party support and the lack of a big third party exclusive so far is a chink in their armor.
From what I have seen, I would not put Knack in the same gameplay category as Mario 64. There seems to be no real platforming or skill in traversing levels to be involved. Looks more like a simple brawler to me.
lifeexpectancy
Member
I too keep watching this thread needlessly, although I'm working graveyard shift so there's that excuse I guess...
I just want to say though I never would've expected the lead-up to this generation to be so one-sided.
I've been an Xbox gamer since the first one. I sold my PS2 to get an Xbox and never looked back. I've owned a grand total of EIGHT Xbox 360s, three of which I still own. I've logged around 25-30 hours a week on my 360 for the past 8 years... that's between 8,000-10,000 hours. 6,000+ hours of that, give or take, is on my current gamertag. I thought I would want to carry my gamertag persona with me as long as Xbox Live was up and running, hopefully indefinitely. So I created this gamertag (LifeExpectancy) back in 2008 in an attempt to have the "perfect" tag, completing the achievement list of every single game I played, which has reached a current tally of 275 games on this tag.
Please don't dismiss the above statements as pointless self promotion. I'm not saying all of this because I'm a die-hard MS fanboy or because I'm trying to be the next Stallion83. That isn't possible first off, and secondly my statements are meant to cast a light on what I'm about to say next...
I find myself all but certain of cancelling my XB1 preorder (or selling it on CL) and just gaming on the PS4. Even if all of MS's policy reversals stand and they don't do any re-reversals mid generation, it's just left such a sour taste in my mouth. I don't think they'll ever truly recover from the image destruction and consumer distrust they've done to themselves since May.
At the very least even if I keep my XB1 I think I'll wind up cancelling my XBL gold and just reverting to a silver account to play single-player only games going forward, making a PS4 my primary console and my only one for multiplayer gaming. They can take my gamerscore and shove it up their ass as far as I'm concerned, because all of this going down just makes me realize how much they've taken my focus away from gaming for enjoyment and turned it into a chore sometimes during this generation.
For every piece of DLC I purchased merely for (gamerscore completion)'s sake, for every year I paid for XBL with nothing to show for it but the occasional multiplayer match that I did more for achievements than for fun, for both of my RROD'd consoles, I both despise and thank MS. I despise them for making it apparent they never really did learn from their mistakes at the beginning of the 360's generation, and I thank them for making me realize and remember that gaming should first and foremost be about the joy of gaming, for making me realize that I need to move on and expand back into other platforms again.
I just want to say though I never would've expected the lead-up to this generation to be so one-sided.
I've been an Xbox gamer since the first one. I sold my PS2 to get an Xbox and never looked back. I've owned a grand total of EIGHT Xbox 360s, three of which I still own. I've logged around 25-30 hours a week on my 360 for the past 8 years... that's between 8,000-10,000 hours. 6,000+ hours of that, give or take, is on my current gamertag. I thought I would want to carry my gamertag persona with me as long as Xbox Live was up and running, hopefully indefinitely. So I created this gamertag (LifeExpectancy) back in 2008 in an attempt to have the "perfect" tag, completing the achievement list of every single game I played, which has reached a current tally of 275 games on this tag.
Please don't dismiss the above statements as pointless self promotion. I'm not saying all of this because I'm a die-hard MS fanboy or because I'm trying to be the next Stallion83. That isn't possible first off, and secondly my statements are meant to cast a light on what I'm about to say next...
I find myself all but certain of cancelling my XB1 preorder (or selling it on CL) and just gaming on the PS4. Even if all of MS's policy reversals stand and they don't do any re-reversals mid generation, it's just left such a sour taste in my mouth. I don't think they'll ever truly recover from the image destruction and consumer distrust they've done to themselves since May.
At the very least even if I keep my XB1 I think I'll wind up cancelling my XBL gold and just reverting to a silver account to play single-player only games going forward, making a PS4 my primary console and my only one for multiplayer gaming. They can take my gamerscore and shove it up their ass as far as I'm concerned, because all of this going down just makes me realize how much they've taken my focus away from gaming for enjoyment and turned it into a chore sometimes during this generation.
For every piece of DLC I purchased merely for (gamerscore completion)'s sake, for every year I paid for XBL with nothing to show for it but the occasional multiplayer match that I did more for achievements than for fun, for both of my RROD'd consoles, I both despise and thank MS. I despise them for making it apparent they never really did learn from their mistakes at the beginning of the 360's generation, and I thank them for making me realize and remember that gaming should first and foremost be about the joy of gaming, for making me realize that I need to move on and expand back into other platforms again.
boredandlazy
Member
I'm definitely interested in what they have to say, but with some trepidation rather than excitement. I always worry they'll do something which will impact franchises that I an currently play on PlayStation. I'm all for companies creating exclusive IP's for their platforms, what I don't like it companies interfering with established multiplatform franchises. Rightly or wrongly, I feel that Microsoft are more likely to do the latter.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I miss it so much. This "renaissance" Cerny is talking about can certainly be possible this generation. Indies are growing year by year and development costs have not substantially risen like they did going into this generation.
I also have fond memories of playing Metropolis Mania with my brother. Oh, and RPG Maker 2 and 3. AirBlade had its moments, as well.
boredandlazy
Member
It's a standard YouTube resolution so whilst I can't guarantee it, it's as likely place as any.
famousmortimer
Banned
True. I think it is more action oriented. Bad choice of game to compare it to... but I still feel like I will like it. It's a genre I love and my expectations are in check. I do think most people are going to hate it though and it's going to get cremated by the press.
okay, i hope so.
SolidSnakex
Member
Vincent4756
Member
Black Republican
Member
do you know if the vita mem card price tier changes will be announced at gamescom?Tough call.
I could see Guerilla's new IP since they are one of their biggest developers in Europe... but at the same time I know a lot two-team companies only like to show one game at a time so I could see it being kept dark until after KZ:SF launches (in november
Xdev has something cooking but I don't know that it will be AAA.
Chances of Uncharted before the VGAs seems highly unlikely...
Anything japanese would be at TGS.
Really tough call. There's obviously games I don't know about. There's probably teams that I don't know about. Like, for instance, when Liverpool moved in with Evolution maybe they became a two team studio and Wipeout isn't dead. Now, I HAVE NOT HEARD EVEN A PEEP OF THAT FROM ANYONE. That's total conjecture on my part. But an announcement like that wouldn't surprise me. I think this gen we will see successful devs add second teams moreso than opening completely new studios. It's worked out really well for Naughty Dog and others in the last few years.
I guess my final answer is "something third party." And I don't know what that would be. But if I'm sony I want to show strong third party support and the lack of a big third party exclusive so far is a chink in their armor.
OH MY!!!!!!!
famousmortimer
Banned
I don't. I know they *are* happening at some point but no one was ever able to nail down when that would be.
I'm very hopeful for a good vita show tomorrow. I know I shouldn't be. I keep thinking it's going to happen and it keeps not happening (though gamescom last year was pretty good). And with the PS4 they obviously won't spend much time on it... but, man, I just feel like they are going to show a bunch of shit, drop the price and give it just a little spark. Not OMG VITA IS SAVED type stuff, but give it a pulse. Please Sony.
Still so weird seeing that heh.