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[Zacfoldor]

Compare the Last of Us Part II on a PS4 Pro with the PS5 remastered version (on the PS5 base console) or The Last of Us Part I (both maybe the best looking PS5 games).
Can you see a generational leap between both console generations or is the PS5 maybe a PS4 Pro Pro?
Or take Horizon Forbidden West or Death Stranding.
The graphic is better, but not so much like between the older PS generations (PS2 games were much better looking than PS1 games, PS3 games much better than PS2 games and PS4 games much better than PS3 games).
The PS6 graphics will be better, but not so much better. Maybe more like a PS5 Pro Pro+ and not like a "generational leap".

This is called Diminishing Returns and the PS4 Pro hit them hardcore.

Nothing has startled since. There are no more graphics mountains to climb. What we have now to pure realism is way less distance than where we have come since Pong or even the NES. Maybe even the Playstation 2.

PS2 launched 25 years ago. In 25 years we will probably have photo realism in games so we have already came most of the way, seen most of the sights.

 

[dispensergoinup]

I'm good for 2027.

 

[V2Tommy]

I wish they'd move to the yearly (or 3 years, let's say) iterative hardware upgrade model so us rich folks wouldn't have to use a console with 2020 specs for this long.

Give me a Zen 5/RDNA4 PS5 Pro Max today and I'm buying it, no matter what it costs.

 

[Euler007]

That's a bit far. I'd say late 2028, cross-gen until late 2030 for first party games. Damn I feel old.

 

[Sanepar]

Delay to 2028 max

 

[yurinka]

I think the November 2027 date makes sense. If not, March 2028. They will figure out something for the RAM prices.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Fall 2028. I'll say this until that announcement happens lol.

 

[rkofan87]

My pro doesn't need to be replaced anytime soon.

same

 

[saintjules]

I'm retarded enough to buy a PS6 in 2027, but I think releasing in 2028 would ideal.

2029 or 2030

It would be the first time Sony breaks the 6-7 year gap between generations.

I still think it's Holiday 2027. We're talking about this on the tail end of 2025. When you think about all of 2026 and practically all of 2027 to get through, end of 2027 makes sense. To me at least.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Is "around the corner" 2026 or 2027?

2029 feels better.

 

[simpatico]

With the new 8 year AAA dev cycle, you gotta figure PS6 launch titles are content complete today if it's coming a moment earlier than 2030. Did engines even exist 6 years ago for them to start building a game on that wouldn't have been possible on a 5 Pro? Seems like a giant waste. The delta between 5 Pro and 6 is surely even smaller than 5 to 5 Pro

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

2034 is a better year. We'll be closer to Bloodborne 2 and Horizon New Dawn, the 8th in the series.

 

[Iced Arcade]

2032 consoles might be a niche item.

 

[bitbydeath]

Lumen: ON
Megalights: ON
Nanite: ON
Quality: EPIC

There's your PS6 game.

AI will likely be the big new thing in gaming next-gen. Leading to faster produced games and better graphics.

 

[GoldenEye98]

I think 2028 is fine.

 

[A.Romero]

Who cares? It's going to be crossgen again so newer games will still play on current consoles. By the time they start releasing PS6 only games it might be 2030 anyway.

It's not like we have to get it day 1 regardless

 

[Ebrietas]

Lumen: ON
Megalights: ON
Nanite: ON
Quality: EPIC

There's your PS6 game.

Turn all of those off.

There's your PS6 game that also runs on PS5, Switch 2, and a low end PC while looking 90% the same.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Who cares? It's going to be crossgen again so newer games will still play on current consoles. By the time they start releasing PS6 only games it might be 2030 anyway.

It's not like we have to get it day 1 regardless

People who care about 60 fps.

 

[j0hnnix]

2028 sounds good, I can wait until 2030. I don't see the need for it any sooner. It needs to be a substantial improvement over the Pro. I'd rather have a full blow hand held over the portal sooner.

 

[xenosys]

I have a feeling it'll come out in late 2028.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

2032 is a bit extreme. But ill say this, Sony are going to have to come up with some very compelling reasons to get me to upgrade.
Exclusive titles and next gen ONLY games.

I can see myself waiting 3-4 years into the PS6 life cycle before I make my purchase. I waited a year before I even got a PS5.

 

[R3TRO]

2035 sounds better.

 

[RoboFu]

The world needs to go back to set speced micro computers that last 10 years. commodore xx let's go!

 

[BlueManifest]

Generations are disappearing, don't release a new system until your game sales start slowing down not your console sales, sad but true

 

[A.Romero]

People who care about 60 fps.

Sure but if you care that much then you are in the wrong platform.

Still, even for those people more options should be better than less options, right? If PS5 Pro and/or PS6 exist then those people have the option to upgrade. Holding back a new product just because some consumers feel is "too soon" doesn't make sense to me.

 

[kazuyamishima]

March 2028 is possibly the latest date, anything later than that and it will be a big mistake.

 

[memoryman3]

Turn all of those off.

There's your PS6 game that also runs on PS5, Switch 2, and a low end PC while looking 90% the same.

Have you seen the recent Switch 2 ports and the Wukong Series S port? It absolutely won't look the same. The lighting would just be completely stripped out and lack any sort of vibrancy. Developers don't want to waste time developing two different lighting paths for their games.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

At this point I can hardly notice any meaningful visual upgrades in games despite them consuming more and more resources seemingly without any gain. If a game runs poorly these days, it's not because of weak hardware 95% of the time. It's bad QA, cutting corners, incompetent devs and half baked engines. Devs need to get better, not the hardware.

 

[Fbh]

Give me Ps6 in 2027 and Ps7 in 2032.
Who cares? Moving forward new consoles are probably going to be more about getting better performance than some sort of generational jump with tons of exclusives games.

Don't feel like the upgrade is worth it? just skip it and get the next one. You'll likely get most of the games on your current console anyway.

 

[Sethbacca]

I wish they'd move to the yearly (or 3 years, let's say) iterative hardware upgrade model so us rich folks wouldn't have to use a console with 2020 specs for this long.

Give me a Zen 5/RDNA4 PS5 Pro Max today and I'm buying it, no matter what it costs.

I dunno about every year, but they could move to a 5 year cadence and get rid of the PRO completely and just do PS2025, PS2030, etc. I'm kinda surprised they haven't moved to more of that cell phone model already, weren't they talking about that a decade ago?

 

[lughnasadh123]

Price cuts and some big title releases should ensure solid enough gains to release new hardware closer to 2030. Longer gen cycles with cross-gen launches are going to be the norm for PS.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I wish they'd move to the yearly (or 3 years, let's say) iterative hardware upgrade model so us rich folks wouldn't have to use a console with 2020 specs for this long.

Give me a Zen 5/RDNA4 PS5 Pro Max today and I'm buying it, no matter what it costs.

Agree... life is hard for us...

 

[BlueManifest]

No matter when it releases ps5 should be the base for a long time maybe even till the end of next gen, there's no reason it can't run any games that the ps6 could just at lower resolution

This isn't the old days when new consoles were 10X stronger than the previous system

 

[larrybrady]

Late 27 release….just don't buy it at launch if you don't want it…

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

We still have PS4 game releases so I slightly agree.

I'd settle for 2028-2030

 

[yogaflame]

It would be the first time Sony breaks the 6-7 year gap between generations.

I still think it's Holiday 2027. We're talking about this on the tail end of 2025.

There is always a first time. 2029 or 2030 for me is okay. Graphics had already peak, all the same movie like experience, and games are stagnant. There is still more years for ps5 especially ps5 pro. And parts are still expensive especially ram, so it is much better to wait for parts to be cheaper and price to stabilize. Anyway there is still allot left for ps5 and ps5 pro. Maybe pspnextgen can be release earlier especially in Japan market where Sony Ps5 struggles. And i rather see sony focus on PSVR 2 because VR is the real future of gaming.

 

[Bonfires Down]

No. It's a waste to miss out on high quality image reconstruction and competent ray tracing hardware unless one buys the PS5 Pro. You're saying we should miss out on 5+ years on hardware and architecture improvements just because.

 

[semiconscious]

I agree that we don't need a ps6 right now and I don't see the rush in releasing one. Technology has kinda stagnated on the console side of things and sony should wait longer to see if any breakthrough developments happen.

as has game development, especially afa triple-a games. i love good double-a games, but sure as hell don't need a ps6 to play them...

 

[Varteras]

 

[Seider]

Sony failed to release Ps5 single player AAA games due to his obsession with GAAS.

Sony should delay the release of the PS6 because of that. I want those games that they didn't deliver and owe us for.

2032 is a good Ps6 release date.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Should be delayed until around 2035.

 

[Chittagong]

For sure we need to wait longer to get a proper jump.

It's not just a perception that PS5 Pro is a pathetic upgrade at a high cost:

• PS4 to PS4 Pro: PS4 was 1.84 teraflops, PS4 Pro came in at roughly 4.2 teraflops. 128% increase.
• Xbox One to Xbox One X:
  Xbox One was 1.31 teraflops, Xbox One X had about 6 teraflops. 358% increase.
• PS5 to PS5 Pro: The PS5 is 10.28 teraflops, PS5 Pro is around 15 teraflops. 46% increase.

So unless you want a PS5 Pro style next gen update, we better wait.

 

[BlueManifest]

We still have PS4 game releases so I slightly agree.

I'd settle for 2028-2030

Which ones

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Release it as soon as possible even as someone that won't buy it because I wanna see how the new games are. 2027 I guess would be a good date.

 

[BlueManifest]

For sure we need to wait longer to get a proper jump.

It's not just a perception that PS5 Pro is a pathetic upgrade at a high cost:

• PS4 to PS4 Pro: PS4 was 1.84 teraflops, PS4 Pro came in at roughly 4.2 teraflops. 128% increase.
• Xbox One to Xbox One X:
  Xbox One was 1.31 teraflops, Xbox One X had about 6 teraflops. 358% increase.
• PS5 to PS5 Pro: The PS5 is 10.28 teraflops, PS5 Pro is around 15 teraflops. 46% increase.

So unless you want a PS5 Pro style next gen update, we better wait.

If it released 2027 it will probably be 20 tflops and 700$

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

At this point I can hardly notice any meaningful visual upgrades in games despite them consuming more and more resources seemingly without any gain. If a game runs poorly these days, it's not because of weak hardware 95% of the time. It's bad QA, cutting corners, incompetent devs and half baked engines. Devs need to get better, not the hardware.

I wonder why so few acknowledge this hard truth? We see so many apologists for untalented developers who always think throwing more power at the problem will fix everything.

 

[WoJ]

I'm generally in favor of longer console generations. I'd say 2028-2029 is probably the sweet spot based on how this gen has gone.

 

[AmuroChan]

I mean...no one is stopping you from waiting until 2032 to buy a PS6 if that's what you desire. You don't have to make the rest of us wait.

 

[yogaflame]

Release it as soon as possible even as someone that won't buy it because I wanna see how the new games are. 2027 I guess would be a good date.

Frame gen? Native 120 fps? Native 4k? Thats it? Yes those are impressive but it gets old easily. Hardly noticeable or it does not matter to maybe 70 or 80 percent of gamers? Its not a very big leap to launch a console around 2027 or even 2028. Games especially gameplay and graphics has plateau or stagnant. Not to mention lets wait for RAm and other pc parts prices to stabilize. Give it more time for a truly futuristic experience and technology. I hope too see more focus on vr and make it more accesible and easier to use since vr has more potential and innovation.

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

Which ones

On the top of my head the most recent one that I know of is this one. Unless you want to pull a "That doesn't count" on me.