Reggie Fils-Aime on Xbox One/PS4 lineups: "Meh"

lol. He actually said that? :D

And he is completely right. The ONLY exclusive that matters on those consoles are Titanfall on the Xbox One, the thirdparty games can be played for the PC, so the only reason to buy these consoles at launch is the promise of exclusives in the future. The Wii U on the other hand, have awesome exclusives RIGHT NOW and a ton more to come untill the end of the year!
 
The 101 is terrible and Britney Spears is fucking amazing.

Thanks for proving my point?

EDIT: But jokes aside, you can't honestly tell me with a straight face that the wii u launch lineup was any good.

It was definitely above average.

Large variety of games, a few quality exclusives.

It just didn't have a Mario 64.
 
Yeah, Wii U's got the best console lineup this fall probably, but the other ones are just launching, I can't even remember the last system with a good launch lineup.

Edit: Man today just keeps delivering, I don't wanna go to bed in case Nintendo announces something batshit insane at 3:00 AM, lol
 
And he is completely right. The ONLY exclusive that matters on those consoles are Titanfall on the Xbox One, the thirdparty games can be played for the PC, so the only reason to buy these consoles at launch is the promise of exclusives in the future. The Wii U on the other hand, have awesome exclusives RIGHT NOW and a ton more to come untill the end of the year!

Titanfall is also coming to PC btw :p
 
The Wii U launch really wasn't any better (and his comment is funny because of that), but he is right when you compare the lineup for this holiday season.
 
Yeah, Wii U's got the best console lineup this fall probably, but the other ones are just launching, I can't even remember the last system with a good launch lineup.

Right - but that's the point. "PS4 and XBOne are just starting their engines up but you can get a bunch of great exclusive new games on a Wii U today!" is a good message. PS4 and XBOne aren't competing against Wii U in 2012, they're competing against Wii U in 2013.
 
The Wii U sales are not meh they are abysmal! Let's hope you still have you job this time
Next year Reggie!

What's that got to do with games lineups? I'm sure Nintendo are fully aware their console sales are abysmal - hence the PR. Hew talking about fall/holiday lineup. And, to many, he's got a point. An obvious point (considering the other two are just launching) but a point

Honestly, it's like a playground in here sometimes.

"WiiU has no games, isn't selling"

"Here's some cool games"

"Yeah but it's not selling well, so nerrr! It's Doomed!"

"Yep, so there's more cool games coming. That'll help, right?"

"No it sucks and it isn't selling! Doom!"


By now, we're all aware it's bombed up to nthis point, likely won't recover past GC levels sales-wise etc. Nintendo cocked up. But we really don't need to have to apply that to every bit of news going forward. Fall/Winter lineup is looking pretty good; doesn't matter how the console sold up to now in that context.
 
And he is completely right. The ONLY exclusive that matters on those consoles are Titanfall on the Xbox One, the thirdparty games can be played for the PC, so the only reason to buy these consoles at launch is the promise of exclusives in the future. The Wii U on the other hand, have awesome exclusives RIGHT NOW and a ton more to come untill the end of the year!



So true. If ONLY there were consoles available right now, with games that look just as good as WiiU's, only they boast 7 years' worth of gaming catalogue, including 'awesome exclusives'.

But nah, I'll just compare it to shiny new consoles yet to be released, because they belong in the same generation by virtue of 'release window', because that makes me feel better.
 
Yeah, Wii U's got the best console lineup this fall probably, but the other ones are just launching, I can't even remember the last system with a good launch lineup.

Actually if you are gonna include all consoles this holiday season the ps3 maybe the best console in terms of games coming out for it in my opinion. The WiiU would be second in terms of lineup of games
 
So true. If ONLY there were consoles available right now, with games that look just as good as WiiU's, only they boast 7 years' worth of gaming catalogue, including 'awesome exclusives'.

But nah, I'll just compare it to shiny new consoles yet to be released, because they belong in the same generation by virtue of 'release window', because that makes me feel better.

Eh, we're at the point where I think there's just little growth for both systems. Few people who own a 360 and PS3 are going to double dip, and I don't think they'll get totally new users who are buying their first console this holiday season. The growth's area are all in the new consoles.
 
So true. If ONLY there were consoles available right now, with games that look just as good as WiiU's, only they boast 7 years' worth of gaming catalogue, including 'awesome exclusives'.

But nah, I'll just compare it to shiny new consoles yet to be released, because they belong in the same generation by virtue of 'release window', because that makes me feel better.

Well I said Gat Daaym!
 
Poor Reggie. Nintendo let him out of his box, he says something dumb and PR, so they have to put him back into his box till he tries to escape again. At least he is confident in his PR. This Christmas is going to be messy.
 
I dunno, the PS4 and XBOX One both have pretty solid lineups that decimate the Wii U library to date. Naturally, for its second holiday, the Wii U will have an excellent lineup as well but it has taken them far too long to reach that point.
 
That's not a nice thing to say about your third party partners' next-gen gam- ... oh wait, they don't make games for you anymore. Nvm.
 
So true. If ONLY there were consoles available right now, with games that look just as good as WiiU's, only they boast 7 years' worth of gaming catalogue, including 'awesome exclusives'.

But nah, I'll just compare it to shiny new consoles yet to be released, because they belong in the same generation by virtue of 'release window', because that makes me feel better.

Do you think that people that waited until 2013 to buy a PS3, 360, or Wii are potential Wii U, PS4, or XBone consumers in 2013? There are some, but I'd think the kind of people that will be buying gen 8 consoles this year most likely already own these consoles and those 7 years of exclusives melt down to this year's. Wii U still has the strongest exclusive lineup going into the end of 2013 and early 2014.
 
He did say what's good about Nintendo's offer.

And really, Meh is what you expect from a YouTube comment? What YouTube videos do you frequent where the comments are anywhere near as tame as this? Heck, Gaffers in this very topic are nowhere near as tame.

I think its just being taken out of context, many reps have said far more worse things that this which have been quite mortifying for the community as a whole. The most recent one I can remember of was from the great Don Mattrick “Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to get some form of connectivity,“It’s called Xbox 360.”
 
"We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong."

Go back 20 years and you'll hear the same thing.

How many years does a Zelda game, a Mario game, and a Donkey Kong game come out in the same year? I think this might be the first time all three were released in the same year.
 
They're decent enough for launch lineups, they'll do the job. Nintendo has a good batch of games coming up, but against the next-gen hype, it's not going to turn the tide. And then they're really in tough when the first and third parties hit their strides on the next gen consoles during the next wave.
 
And he is completely right. The ONLY exclusive that matters on those consoles are Titanfall on the Xbox One, the thirdparty games can be played for the PC, so the only reason to buy these consoles at launch is the promise of exclusives in the future. The Wii U on the other hand, have awesome exclusives RIGHT NOW and a ton more to come untill the end of the year!

People dont seem to understand that powerfull PCs isn't a common thing. Most students walk around with their ultrabooks and smartphones. Kids and old ducks with their tablets. Seriously only hardcore gamers has a good pc but the general public doesn't.

On another note: Killzone, infamous, killer instinct, Forza isn't insignificant.. And there's a few Indies that are exclusive to PS4 by the way.
 
Nintendo sure have exclusives for Wii U, that's true. Only problem is they have hardly anything else on there that's interesting and that is a pretty sad.
 
Yeah he's right. Besides price difference ($100-$200), potentially the GamePad and software like Miiverse the gaming lineup is the thing Wii U has over PS4 and XBONE. Actually that doesn't sound like such a uncompelling proposition. Well I guess we'll see. There's a certain group of consumers that wouldn't pick Wii U over PS4/XBONE anyway but maybe not all hope is lost after all.

Nintendo sure have exclusives for Wii U, that's true. Only problem is they have hardly anything else on there that's interesting and that is a pretty sad.

What's the problem? I never understood why exactly are games you can play on 2-5 different platforms so important.
 
People dont seem to understand that powerfull PCs isn't a common thing. Most students walk around with their ultrabooks and smartphones. Kids and old ducks with their tablets. Seriously only hardcore gamers has a good pc but the general public doesn't.

On another note: Killzone, infamous, killer instinct, Forza isn't insignificant.. And there's a few Indies that are exclusive to PS4 by the way.
I am pretty sure people paying $400 to get currrent gen games with partially better graphics aren't common either
 
How many years does a Zelda game, a Mario game, and a Donkey Kong game come out in the same year? I think this might be the first time all three were released in the same year.

Donkey Kong Country Returns : 3.12.2010
Super Mario 3D Land : 18.11.2011
Zelda OoT 3DS : 17.06.2011

Thats one Year. Not the same but who cares?
 
What's the problem? I never understood why exactly are games you can play on 2-5 different platforms so important.

Third party games help fill out the holes in the lineup that Nintendo can't or won't fill themselves. So unless you want to play nothing but Nintendo's first-party games and/or the occasional 'second-party' exclusive, you're left with slim pickings on the Wii U.
 
What a surprise it's not about the tech for Big N when your tech is barely better than current gen.

There may not be anything that spectacular coming at launch for X1 or PS4 but I'm allowed to say this about Wii U's current games. Meh. I could appreciate Reggie's claim a lot more if they at least innovated a little bit with a new, real 3D Mario and Zelda right now and not in a few years when it's already too late to compete with the other two. Or better yet also had some new, fresh IP coming in (I guess they kinda hinted at something like that?.
 
What's the problem? I never understood why exactly are games you can play on 2-5 different platforms so important.

They are important because they fill out the lineup of games on a system and do not force consumers to have to buy another system to play games that they want to play. It would be beneficial for Nintendo to have great third party support because it makes the system a better buying option for the customer instead of just a system you play Nintendo games on.
 
With the shift to everything needing to have multiplayer, especially on xbox, seeing the games that are coming to Wii U is rather refreshing. PS4 will no doubt have those too, but farther down the line.

One of my favorite early launch titles for 360 was condemned (and it was an exclusive too), and I see nothing like that coming up. It's all just dudebro garbage, multiplayer grey brown brobox games. At least for my dollar this year, Nintendo will give me *real* games as they should be.

I have also never been a portable gamer, but lately portable dedicated handheld gaming seems to be where the real action is. I am hopeful though that ps4 will get its share of the real stuff down the line much like ps3 did. But honestly, the gamecube had some amazing titles on it, and if the Wii U ends up being another gamecube or even dreamcast (in terms of games, not how the DC left the market early), then I will be very happy.

The original wii ended up having so many amazing exclusive and unique titles for it, more than I ever figured it would, to the point where my 360 has been collecting dust for years. I suspect that will be the case for this generation too. These were wii titles you had to actively look for though, little gems really. I think the Wii U after some time will be looked at as fondly as the gamecube, maybe not from a financial/business standpoint, but from a gamers perspective. Often really great content and new artistic and gameplay experiences that truly impress do not correlate to financial success, hence what we see with western console gaming, mobile, etc. Quality rarely ever equals financial success i'm afraid. The masses want there league of legends and COD's and by god the industry will give it to them, especially in the west.

I hope Wonderful 101 does better, it certainly deserves it :).
 
What's the problem? I never understood why exactly are games you can play on 2-5 different platforms so important.

What? Why wouldn't they matter? They represent a ton of good games. Maybe if you have a good PC you wouldn't care as much, but I don't.
 
Haha so many salty juniors in this topic trying to defend the PS4/Xbone lineup.

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Reggie's right.

The problem for Reggie is that consoles are not actually sold for their games, at least not in the first three years, but for the promise of having a great future. That's why the PS4 will outsell XBone, even though the latter has a better immediate lineup. It's why the Wii sold hot cakes based on only Wii Sports, even though a single game is normally never enough to buy a console; because it hinted at a bright new future for interaction with games.

Right now Wii U's perceived future is that of a dwindling console quickly becoming irrelevant. You can use it to play rehashes of old games (in WW case literally), and will have one or two standout games. But in today's market where great games are released monthly, who cares. It's not about the games, it's about the idea of new game experiences. They really need to find a way to underscore why the Gamepad is necessary. But a year after Nintendoland's dud with nothing on the radar, it's not looking too good.
 
Third party games help fill out the holes in the lineup that Nintendo can't or won't fill themselves. So unless you want to play nothing but Nintendo's first-party games and/or the occasional 'second-party' exclusive, you're left with slim pickings on the Wii U.

They are important because they fill out the lineup of games on a system and do not force consumers to have to buy another system to play games that they want to play. It would be beneficial for Nintendo to have great third party support because it makes the system a better buying option for the customer instead of just a system you play Nintendo games on.

Are there really hardcore gamers (wanting to play something all the time) owning just a Nintendo machine? I mean just owning a Wii U might be an option if you don't feel like you need to play something new all the time but if you have even little interest in other games than Nintendo then surely you would own another machine with Wii U?

What? Why wouldn't they matter? They represent a ton of good games. Maybe if you have a good PC you wouldn't care as much, but I don't.

Or 360 or PS3 or planning on picking up PS4/XBONE...
 
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