airmangataosenai
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Madden? Need for Speed? Those are huge franchises,
Reggie Fils-Aime on Xbox One/PS4 lineups: "Meh"
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Madden? Need for Speed? Those are huge franchises,
SporeCrawler
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Contrary to popular belief were good ports on wiiu launch too (sonic racer, tekken tag, ass3, darksiders2, blops2 for example)
Now that is the damn truth.
So your argument is to ignore titles like KI:Uprising, SSB, W101, MK8, X, Bayo2, LM2 etc. Then disclassify Skyward Sword (ignoring it's dev time, motion control implementation, dungeon design) because opinions. Then state Metroid: Other M shouldn't have been green lit, just to ignore its development.
So yeah, I guess they only pumped money into SMG2 because those other titles don't count.
Let's also ignore the length of the single player modes, and conclude the games lack content. Because it's harder to admit Nintendo games don't appeal to your tastes anymore, so let's make arbitrary reasons to ignore their titles.
I mean really.
Are you playing them?
Yeah, it sucks that the Wii U does not have these games for the people who would like to play them, the real missed opportunity is that Nintendo should have something that replaced Madden, FIFA, etc. for this year, not that they lost those games specifically.
kidhero1000
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I find it pretty funny that people debate these consoles on the basis of launch line ups now that the rest of the systems are so similar. To me both launch line ups are soft as far as exclusives go. Two thirds of launch titles are on both systems. Im getting a PS4 but not for Killzone or Knack. But because it seems like a better choice for all the third parties. And the promise of the future.
I have faith in Sony to deliver excellent first party experiences through out the life of the console. They have done it with every console. Microsoft with the last two Xbox consoles have shown they can try all they want but they have very few cards up their sleeve. I love Halo and Gears. Im just not willing to bet $500 on the hope that something else will come out when history has proved the opposite. Because these consoles are so similar now getting a PS for the exclusives isnt going to hurt you with the multiplats the way PS3 was during most of its life.
I have faith in Sony to deliver excellent first party experiences through out the life of the console. They have done it with every console. Microsoft with the last two Xbox consoles have shown they can try all they want but they have very few cards up their sleeve. I love Halo and Gears. Im just not willing to bet $500 on the hope that something else will come out when history has proved the opposite. Because these consoles are so similar now getting a PS for the exclusives isnt going to hurt you with the multiplats the way PS3 was during most of its life.
KDash31987
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I'm with these guys. I love video games, and I've got about 30 consoles and handhelds right now (counting add ons and such) that I still play regularly, but I've never been so completely unexcited about a new generation of games as I am right now.
Besides maybe Killer Instinct, there's just nothing really drawing my attention towards next gen at all...besides maybe promises of "eventually" getting something in a few years. I'll get both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 eventually, but not any time soon. I'm perfectly happy with my Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Wii U.
KillerTravis
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Brave words for a guy whose company made Wii U
Lol have you even read the posts in this thread? I'm sure Reggie is sleeping soundly in his bed right now, he left the buckets of salt outside his door.
Pretty much. I bought the damn thing on an impulse buy last year, and yet I'm finding that most of the games I'm buying is for the Wii U.
But Nintendo needs to convince a lot more people that this is the console for them, and to do that, they need not just games, but a steady stream of them to show that the drought of games that lasted for a good 6 months isn't happening again.
DisenLedZep
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Actually, looking at the exclusives, the only one that really stands out is Titanfall.
The rest, I have to agree with him being pretty meh. MAYBE Killzone.
Btw, Reggie, your launch lineup didn't have Pikmin 3, Zelda, 3D Mario, Donkey Kong and Wonderful 101, that's your holiday lineup. One year later... Strong one, I have to admit, but still, not launch.
Also, they should really start advertising the Wii U as a NEW console and push that idea very strongly this holidays. Now with the price cut and this holiday lineup is the perfect timing. Otherwise... :/
The rest, I have to agree with him being pretty meh. MAYBE Killzone.
Btw, Reggie, your launch lineup didn't have Pikmin 3, Zelda, 3D Mario, Donkey Kong and Wonderful 101, that's your holiday lineup. One year later... Strong one, I have to admit, but still, not launch.
Also, they should really start advertising the Wii U as a NEW console and push that idea very strongly this holidays. Now with the price cut and this holiday lineup is the perfect timing. Otherwise... :/
Poimandres
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You really think he's being honest?
He's a PR figure. For all we know he could actually believe the opposite. To think you actually know Reggie as a person based on his public comments is frankly naive.
GuessMyUserName
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To be fair.... two of these were in the launch lineup but got delayed horribly T_T
+Rayman too T_T
AHA-Lambda
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Pretty much this.
Unknown One
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The world is saying "meh" to the Wii-U.
KentBrockman
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Poor Reggie, he's going to get his ass kicked and his name taken.
JustAnotherOtaku
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Better than that year (2008?) their Q4 lineup for the core was Animal Crossing I suppose.
You're probably the first person making that joke on this thread.
Latvian Hitman
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Well, if anyone would know about "meh" software lineups, it would definitely be Reggie...
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The Wonderful 101 is awful, and the sales of it prove it.
Britney Spears is amazing though.
True, you can't get Sing Party or W101 on those platforms. But customers showed huge disinterest in both titles, which weren't even critically acclaimed.
Unknown One
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Uh, none?
Contrary to popular Nintendo fans belief, the gaming community doesn't revolve around Nintendo.
DidntKnowJack
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Ehhh. I don't necessarily agree with him, but you know if the other 2 console makers were in Nintendo's shoes, they'd be saying similar things.
Hey, I'm not the one claiming his job is to trash (however mildly) the opposition.
Never said they were.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The 2DS thread and this one are amongst the most popular threads of today.
The gaming community LOVES Nintendo, can't get enough of them.
You have people frequenting Nintendo threads that have no interest in them, probably in the threads as much as they are in ones of games they actually play.
THAT'S dedication.
Which speaks to a larger problem Nintendo is facing.
Ten-twenty years ago games were cheap enough and development times short enough that a company like Nintendo could self sustain its systems pretty easily. Up into the gamecube generation Nintendo was able to pretty much either partner or create enough games that they could cover almost every genre imaginable in order to attract a wider audience. Take the struggling n64 for example. Nintendo managed to release a big title almost every month and was able to span the gamut of genres from FPS to platformers to sports to RPGs to action titles to comedy games. Not its most successful console but it had its pluses.
No company has the resources to achieve such a feat today which is why third party support is more pivotal then ever to success. Wii captured lightning in a bottle and will probably never be able to duplicate the wii's success any time soon. Third parties make up the majority of games from AAA blockbusters to indies like minecraft or journey. Without them you are literally a box that has to self sustain itself completely and that's expensive and regressive. You end up taking less risks because you have to cast a wide net and you end up in the long run tarnishing your brand because you are playing it too safe. Which of course was necessary in the short run to maximize sales and minimize risk.
Third parties are a necessary glue that can keep your console owners using the system in between first party releases and can fill genre voids you don't have the means or ability to target.
SpookyBlackFish
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Haha! Well, what else should he say? "Xbone and PS4 have a great launch line up compared to what has been ours and that is no miracle with all that great tech and 3rd party support! But at least we have DKC and Mario and a HD Remake of Wind Waker this fall. That seems to fill the gap until 2014. Yeah, we shat the bed this year, got a lot to mend."
You always have to sound strong and confident when you speak for a company like these. You are not going for reality checks and honesty. This is a big theater, a show. People who feel insulted by such words or start facepalming should keep that in mind.
You always have to sound strong and confident when you speak for a company like these. You are not going for reality checks and honesty. This is a big theater, a show. People who feel insulted by such words or start facepalming should keep that in mind.
kidhero1000
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Unless your one of the ones who let Nintendo rule their lives with the obligatory "I want another 30 years of the same ol' plumber"
IMO, there's nothing in Wii U lineup that'd justify the purchase of Wii U for me. Not even after the pathetic 'price drop'.
Aizu_Itsuko
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My point is that there are much better ways to portray this message than to just say "Meh". Talk about what's good about your offering, that makes you look good. I expect "Meh" from a youtube comment, not a person on his position.
travisbickle
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That third party support though, eh Reggie? Unprecedented!
boiled goose
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He did say that. He saw we have mario, donkey kong, and zelda.
He said, the competition doesn't really have anything that interesting.
Well to be fair... it is not like WiiU has had great first party support either.... hahaha
Lol,
Resplendent Elk
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For me anyway, console gaming has been in the pits since the early days of 360 and ps3. PS2 is when it peaked for me and many others. Mostly because with MS spearheading DLC and dudebro experiences (along with others who followed), the physical retail games market has taken a huge hit, especially with mid tier developers having dried up.
Nintendo and dedicated portables are the last bastion of what real gaming used to be, and even nintendo is struggling to keep that up now. Digital distribution is one of the worst things to happen to gaming, as now we have no ownership of content. You are just left with indie rentals (that's what DLC is), or the bland grey brown monotony of western "AAA" gaming.
Why do I bring this up? Because a lot of the "innovation", if we can even call it that, has most definitely come from indies as of late. So now after this sad excuse for a generation, we either have huge budget "AAA" games, a term I can't stand, right alongside other gems like "core gamer", or we have "indie" games which sadly are almost always purely digital. There is no middle anymore (which is where we often saw some of the coolest stuff during the ps2 and previous generations).
The Wii U for me is what is left of the middle ground, along with some of the occasional higher quality "AAA" stuff that they produce. The Wii U was the wrong path for them to take, but I get why they did. A shame what has happened to gaming, truly. The abysmal failure of this console is a sad reflection not only of nintendo, but I would argue, gamers tastes having changed for the worse, especially in the west.
That being said, money is tight for me, and I am now far more likely to buy a Wii U before a ps4 or certainly the overpriced dudebro box that is Xbone.
Games I am interested in the immediate future are:
Sonic Lost World
Pikmin 3
Wonderful 101
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (my fav zelda game)
and of course Rayman Legends (I am going with Wii U as that was the original platform it was made for).
Sony and especially MS don't have anything like that coming up. Although for me, I am likely tom get a PS4 before a Xbone due to the almost near certainty of more and better exclusives, especially from Japan.
Nintendo and dedicated portables are the last bastion of what real gaming used to be, and even nintendo is struggling to keep that up now. Digital distribution is one of the worst things to happen to gaming, as now we have no ownership of content. You are just left with indie rentals (that's what DLC is), or the bland grey brown monotony of western "AAA" gaming.
Why do I bring this up? Because a lot of the "innovation", if we can even call it that, has most definitely come from indies as of late. So now after this sad excuse for a generation, we either have huge budget "AAA" games, a term I can't stand, right alongside other gems like "core gamer", or we have "indie" games which sadly are almost always purely digital. There is no middle anymore (which is where we often saw some of the coolest stuff during the ps2 and previous generations).
The Wii U for me is what is left of the middle ground, along with some of the occasional higher quality "AAA" stuff that they produce. The Wii U was the wrong path for them to take, but I get why they did. A shame what has happened to gaming, truly. The abysmal failure of this console is a sad reflection not only of nintendo, but I would argue, gamers tastes having changed for the worse, especially in the west.
That being said, money is tight for me, and I am now far more likely to buy a Wii U before a ps4 or certainly the overpriced dudebro box that is Xbone.
Games I am interested in the immediate future are:
Sonic Lost World
Pikmin 3
Wonderful 101
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (my fav zelda game)
and of course Rayman Legends (I am going with Wii U as that was the original platform it was made for).
Sony and especially MS don't have anything like that coming up. Although for me, I am likely tom get a PS4 before a Xbone due to the almost near certainty of more and better exclusives, especially from Japan.
Eh, its EA, and their relationship with Nintendo can be summed up in one word, "sucks".
And now that I think about it, who cares about Sports titles that are released late? Does any late port of a sports game sell well in that year?
Is anyone getting Madden or NBA2K14 for the Xbox One, or PS4?
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lol. He actually said that? 
Portugeezer
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At work, this made lol
GuessMyUserName
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He did say what's good about Nintendo's offer.
And really, Meh is what you expect from a YouTube comment? What YouTube videos do you frequent where the comments are anywhere near as tame as this? Heck, Gaffers in this very topic are nowhere near as tame.
Combichristoffersen
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He just wants to remind people Mario still exists. It's not like Nintendo trots out the plumber at least once a year or anything.
The 101 is terrible and Britney Spears is fucking amazing.
Thanks for proving my point?
EDIT: But jokes aside, you can't honestly tell me with a straight face that the wii u launch lineup was any good.
Neuro
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Largely they were ports of X360 and PS3 games with a few Nintendo games here and there...New Super Mario Bros. U , Nintendo Land, Lego City Undercover and ZombiU were the exclusives that were launched alongwith the system
Depending on how long companies like valve last there's a solid probability that a lot of my digitally owned properties will outlast my physically owned ones. Digital software can't get scratched or deteriorate. Or if the console my library works on breaks and the consoles are no longer manufactured I basically have games I can't play.
Furthermore digital distribution has allowed me to build a library of games for a fraction of the cost it would of taken to buy them physically.
As to taste. I disagree. It's always been this way, its just games cost more to make and require a larger return to break even. Preferences have shifted yes, but there is just as much, if not more variety of experiences today across the various platforms of mobile, console and pc to satisfy almost any want.
Chû Totoro
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I'm ok with him. It's about games and I really won't put 400 for a system with almost no games I want to play day one. Of course I'm in the minority and this is bad news for Nintendo because most of the gamers enjoy more NFS, Madden, CoD, BF and AC than Mario, Zelda or DK... but imo Nintendo franchises are a way better gaming experience.
Many people are.
Madden 2006 on the Xbox 360 still did well even though it came out later and had many missing features. The graphical jump alone made sports gamers want it.
Also, NBA 2K14 will be coming out to next gen about a month and a half after the current gen version releases. Not that big of a gap. This is on top of the fact that a season in the NBA is longer than a season in the NFL.