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consumer purchasing power... something something

we was talkign about how much a person is ready to pay for something

here 350 euro are a lots..seen that an mid employer take 1200 euro montly


consumer purchasing power....something something...in fact
 
wtf?!?! they payed 462 american dollars (that r 350 euro ) to buy a x360 + kinect

is this hard to understand?

Don't fool around. What the other poster meant: Did he pay 500 dollars or whats equal to the 500 dollars of the xbone in your local currency for it. Your girlfriends don't earn dollars, they earn euros.
 
What? If you're talking about Xbox Live Gold for apps, you're right. I still don't think that's a barrier for most considering what you're actually getting for it.

Even though you get 85% of that for no extra charge on a console that costs much less?
I'm not saying there aren't people who'll find the proposition attractive(the sales of the first kinect attest to that), but I don't think it'll be as big a driving force behind the XBOne as some of you hope it will.
 
Don't fool around. What the other poster meant: Did he pay 500 dollars or whats equal to 500 dollars in your local currency for it. Your girlfriends don't earn dollars, they earn euros.

they payed more of what 500 dollars are for an usa emplyed...

if you wanna listen this
 
It's kind of funny to see the evolution of Kayle from huge Xbox supporter to Xbox hater (when they announced XB1) and now to staunch supporter with little to no reasoning ability.

:d
 
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm being too harsh. But you do tend to dump on Xbox One a lot. What gives?
Cyberheater, my main console was the Xbox360 most of the time.
That shouldn't change. Then, the XBone reveal happened.
MS pissed me off to no end and offended me as a Xbox fan, gamer and consumer.
(I already wrote a longer post regarding that, a few weeks ago).
Even after a few 180's later, they're dead to me. I'm a PS4/PC/WiiU only gamer now (for next gen) and I haven't forgotten. A lot what they do and some of their PR suits out there are still pissing me off.
So I know what you mean, but it's not like I'm entering a thread, posting "lulz Xbox suxx" and leave. We had a discussion here with the "casuals will buy a 500$ system for Kinect". Well, and I disagree. So I'm not "shiting" onto the XBone. I simply disagree.

yes in italy 200 euro console..+ 150 euro kinect...
Jesus.... I forgot that thing had a 150€ price tag in europe
 
Even though you get 85% of that for no extra charge on a console that costs much less?
I'm not saying there aren't people who'll find the proposition attractive (the sales of the first kinect attest to that), but I don't think it'll be as big a driving force behind the XBOne as some of you hope it will.

Guess we'll have to wait and see. One console might be 'better' for games. But the other is better at everything else. That might just be enough for most consumers.
 
It's kind of funny to see the evolution of Kayle from huge Xbox supporter to Xbox hater (when they announced XB1) and now to staunch supporter with little to no reasoning ability.

:d

i support games i hate ..haters..

you will barely (if not ever)...see me jump on a ps4 thread to talk bad about it
 
they payed more of what 500 dollars are for an usa emplyed...

if you wanna listen this

Its very simple to understand. The original poster meant 500 euros, he didn't know your currency is euro. If you were to live in America you would say 350 dollars and thats not the same as 500 dollars. Neither is 350 euros the same as 500 euros.
 
they payed more of what 500 dollars are for an usa emplyed...

if you wanna listen this

Dude why aren't you getting it?
Your friends paid 350€ for the 360+Kinect. Now they would have to pay 500€ for the X1+Kinect.
350€ is on a completely different level than 500€. I'm sure they aren't just gonna go and lay down 500€ as easily as they did those 350€.
 
Cyberheater, my main console was the Xbox360 most of the time.
That shouldn't change. Then, the XBone reveal happened.
MS pissed me off to no end and offended me as a Xbox fan, gamer and consumer.
(I already wrote a longer post regarding that, a few weeks ago).
Even after a few 180's later, they're dead to me. I'm a PS4/PC/WiiU only gamer now (for next gen) and I haven't forgotten. A lot what they do and some of their PR suits out there are still pissing me off.
So I know what you mean, but it's not like I'm entering a thread, posting "lulz Xbox suxx" and leave. We had a discussion here with the "casuals will buy a 500$ system for Kinect". Well, and I disagree. So I'm not "shiting" onto the XBone. I simply disagree.


Jesus.... I forgot that thing had a 150€ price tag in europe


yes crazy..i never bought one....but i bought the move...(cam + controller around 120)
 
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I hope I don't hurt your feelings with my posts.
The Wii sold around 100 mio. because it was something new and because of the small price tag.
The Kinect "feature/gimmick" isn't that new and suprising and won't t do that to the XBone.

That is quite literally your intention with most of your posts in practically every X1 thread. Prove us wrong with some constructive posts.
 
Dude why aren't you getting it?
Your friends paid 350€ for the 360+Kinect. Now they would have to pay 500€ for the X1+Kinect.
350€ is on a completely different level than 500€. I'm sure they aren't just gonna go and lay down 500€ as easily as they did those 350€.

Xbox 360 ≠ Xbox One.
 
She pay 350€ not 500$ if she buy a Xbone will pay 500€, not 660$.
It's not hard to understand...

the console here cost 399 euro....299euro if u give them back an ps3 slim (crazy they should ask a x360 not a ps3 damn! hahaah) to gamestop

seen yersterday in a commercial centre

scheda-promo-xboxONE-tradein.jpg
 
Dude why aren't you getting it?
Your friends paid 350€ for the 360+Kinect. Now they would have to pay 500€ for the X1+Kinect.
350€ is on a completely different level than 500€. I'm sure they aren't just gonna go and lay down 500€ as easily as they did those 350€.

who the fuck told u the xb1 cost 500 euro!??!?!
 
the console here cost 399 euro....299euro if u give them back an ps3 slim (crazy they should ask a x360 not a ps3 damn! hahaah) to gamestop

seen yersterday in a commercial centre

And...?
You were talking about pay 500$ for a X360+kinect when really was 350€.
 
That is quite literally your intention with most of your posts in practically every X1 thread. Prove us wrong with some constructive posts.
Well I'm posting according to my opinion.
I'm sorry, I thought this was America :P
(Randy quote)
And no, it's not my "intention" but something some of you guys want to see.
 
Oh, my comment is stupid just because you disagree with it, how ignorant.

Nope, it's just stupid comment plain and simple.

Definition: 'A trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.'


Those aren't gimmicks. They are all valid controller input devices.

then I'll take wikipedia definition:
In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries
Guess what all what you mentioned are gimmicks.
 
who the fuck told u the xb1 cost 500 euro!??!?!

Calm down. No need to get so worked up. Not like I insulted you or anything.
And what do you mean the X1 doesn't cost 500€? In every country that has Euro as a currency it cost's 499€. Sorry for adding that 1 euro that makes the huge difference.

But ok I'll keep myself out of here. Thread is completely derailed anyway.
 
Calm down. No need to get so worked up. Not like I insulted you or anything.
And what do you mean the X1 doesn't cost 500€? In every country that has Euro as a currency it cost's 499€. Sorry for adding that 1 euro that makes the huge difference.

But ok I'll keep myself out of here. Thread is completely derailed anyway.

no no in all honesty is my wrong i didnt read about u need to give them 3 old games to get it a 399
 
1) No, they aren't. iPad is slightly a different beast and so ignorant to even try to compare them.

2) It's track record is full of poorly implemented gimmicks that do little to advance gaming in any meaningful way. Wait? No, how about Microsoft shows us how great Kinect 2.0 is rather that just telling us it is. How can that NOT worry someone? If it was as great as they say it is they would be showing us. Be honest to yourself.

MS has shown off Kinect Sports 2 and Project Spark at the must recent trade show. The stuff they're doing with Spark (custom user mo cap and voice acting) obviously can't be implemented without a similar fidelity device.
 
Even though you get 85% of that for no extra charge on a console that costs much less?
I'm not saying there aren't people who'll find the proposition attractive(the sales of the first kinect attest to that), but I don't think it'll be as big a driving force behind the XBOne as some of you hope it will.

if I want the bundled game and the camera it doesn't.

I think it might end up being a less huge issue than some think. the superior camera tech might even be something some like I guess.
 
Are You familiar with this one ?

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I am, just not sure what point you're trying to make here. This argument concerns a completely separate value opposition, and product, in fact, which does not integrate into a singular supply and demand model.
 
well yes is bad for new users...good for the old x360 one...ill get one for 299 ..givin them the 360

Uuuhhh no shit. Hey man if I trade in my PS3 and games, I can probably get anything at Gamestop for free. What sort of logic is this? Its 499 Euros in literally every European market.

I get a free carrot with my Xbox One?

If Gamestop = EB Games, its got to do with level up points. They've got some membership program, which I have no idea what it does, where you get experience points for doing preorders and other crap. They're carrots because EB Games likes rabbits for some reason.
 
I am, just not sure what point you're trying to make here. This argument concerns a completely separate value opposition, and product, in fact, which does not integrate into a singular supply and demand model.

The point I am trying to make is casuals (and lots of other people) don't see them 'a completely separate value proposition' . They are devices that play games and do few other things. They fall into same category regardless of logo and package.
And preorder numbers, even though skewed towards hardcore population for now, seem to confirm my thinking.
Unless PS4 is so much better value proposition in terms of games and additional services it provides.
 
Cyberheater, my main console was the Xbox360 most of the time.
That shouldn't change. Then, the XBone reveal happened.
MS pissed me off to no end and offended me as a Xbox fan, gamer and consumer.
(I already wrote a longer post regarding that, a few weeks ago).
Even after a few 180's later, they're dead to me. I'm a PS4/PC/WiiU only gamer now (for next gen) and I haven't forgotten. A lot what they do and some of their PR suits out there are still pissing me off.
So I know what you mean, but it's not like I'm entering a thread, posting "lulz Xbox suxx" and leave. We had a discussion here with the "casuals will buy a 500$ system for Kinect". Well, and I disagree. So I'm not "shiting" onto the XBone. I simply disagree.

I do know how you feel. My main console is the Xbox 360 although I have them all including a gaming PC. MS have managed to hack me off as well. Here is my list:-

* The performance. I can't believe they did give it a better GPU. PS4 is going to out perform them for the entire generation.
* The DRM thing. Even though they 180'd on it.

The final straw for me was the pricing. £429 for a console is just insane. My next console is going to be a PS4 and I'm going to only have one next gen console (excluding the WiiU I already have).
I really don't know where I'm going to put them all.
 
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