Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early

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Antiwhippy said:
The spikey shell is part of the point though. Even if he is based on a knight you have to base it on the concept of a horse chestnut. I thought using it as a cape/shield thing was a pretty creative way to approach the design.
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Yea, you can obviously see that his shell is his cape by looking at his shoulders, but I just don't think they did enough. You can't take one look at it and see for sure what he is. Anyone and everyone can take one look at Greninja, even without looking at his name, and see that he is a Ninja Frog, it's completely obvious. You just can't do that for Chesnaught. And i'm not saying that Chesnaught isn't awesome, because I am picking Chespin as my starter. It's just that I don't think Gamefreak did him justice with his design.
 
chestnaught looks like a knight, it's just that he has a lot of elements joined together so there's no single point of inspiration. the top portion of his shield looks like it would attach to a cape but it's connected to the rest of the shell. and he's probably hunched over as a form of defense. he could cover his head with his arms while crouched. He may not be a turtle but in terms of defense that is a great natural animal to emulate. It kinda reminds of the old roman tortoise formation or something.
 
Neiteio said:
So what is this missing?

Radiant Ruby AND Shining Sapphire

More than 30 new Mega Evolutions, including:

+ A second Mega Evolution for Blaziken
+ Mega Evolutions for Sceptile and Swampert
+ Mega Evolutions for Salamence and Metagross
+ Mega Evolutions for Groudon (RR) and Kyogre (SS)
+ A Mega Evolution for Rayquaza

...and more Mega Evolutions for Gen III Pokemon, such as Ludicolo, Slaking, Torkoal and Luvdisc!

There are Mega Evolutions for Pokemon from other generations, as well, such as Clawitzer in Gen VI (Water/Fire, with a plasma cannon)!

Explore a full-fledged 3D remake of Hoenn!

See familiar places from a fresh perspective! Visit all-new cities and areas added for the remakes! Experience Hoenn with a day-night cycle, changing weather and seasons! And the native Pokemon population has grown to include species from all six generations!

Full auto-stereoscopic 3D presentation!

Everything from single, double and triple battles to exploration of the overworld is presented in full auto-stereoscopic 3D!

Full trainer customization!

Choose a male or female trainer, and then choose the ethnicity, skin tone, hair style, hair color, eye color, facial features and body type! There is also a wide selection of clothing items and fashion accessories to mix and match, available in different colors and patterns.

Secret bases and running a gym!

Littered around Hoenn are secret bases you can furnish however you please, with furniture and appliances you collect throughout the game! Secret bases feature special mini-games. They also include healing stations and PC access.

You can also own and operate your own gym! Locations are available in a variety of places. The interior and exterior is fully customizable. Challenges can be accepted from CPU trainers (offline) and human players (online).

Special encounters with rare Pokemon!

Similar to the black Haxorus in B2/W2, or the red Gyarados in HG/SS, there are special Pokemon encounters in RR/SS, including shiny versions of Salamence and Metagross! There are also non-native legendary Pokemon such as Regigigas, who can now Mega Evolve!

Rematches and Battle Frontier!

Every gym leader can be challenged to a rematch, the gym leader selecting a team that roughly approximates your current level! For example, Norman may Mega Evolve his Slaking, dropping Truant and gaining a beneficial ability.

The same applies to the Elite Four and Champion. There is also the Battle Frontier, robust as always, and a venue within it where players can challenge gym leaders, E4 members and champions from all six generations.

(NOTE: Listed Mega Evolutions assume they don't already exist in XY)
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again, all of this is great except for GLEAMING RUBY & SIMMERING SAPHIRE.

the gym idea is ingenious, make it streetpass enabled and you've got one of the best additions to pokemon...which is why it will never happen.
 
Unicorn said:
no matter how often you repeat yourself I still don't see it.
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I'm guessing you're unimaginative and don't see how Samurott conveys a samurai either, right? Because he's not blatantly wearing the broad helmet or wielding katanas. Tsk!

At any rate, Chesnaught is definitely the warrior counterpart to Delphox's mage and Greninja's thief, but if some people don't get that, so be it. I'm rolling with Greninja anyways.

RE: wishlist for possible Ruby/Sapphire remakes:

I should've included an option for Pokemon to follow you around in the overworld! But many that'd be exhaustive for the team to design chibi 3D models of every Pokemon, lol.
 
Chesnaught immediately reminded me of the oversized Knight armour in Fire Emblem: Awakening, so yeah, I think they did the job fine. Making it too obvious by adding swords/shields/visors whatever would take away from the look of the pokemon and be really weird.
 
Impressive :D

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Neiteio said:
Chesnaught is meant to evoke a knight. Not flat-out emulate one. And he does evoke a knight, covered head-to-toe in his own naturalistic, exoskeletal take on body armor. This should be evident from the helmet on his head to the plating on his arms and legs to the beige color that compromises earthy hues and a knight's shining armor. He's fortified, front and back, top to bottom. He even has the ornamental trim of a knight along the edges of his shell-shield.

Any more blatant and it veers off into parody territory, which worked for Escavalier as a regular mid-game Pokemon but would be a bit too on the nose for a starter.
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and yet delphox and greninja both blatantly show their class as a mage/rogue and pull it off more effectively than the turtle.
 
Neiteio said:
Any more blatant and it veers off into parody territory, which worked for Escavalier as a regular mid-game Pokemon but would be a bit too on the nose for a starter.
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I skipped B/W so I just saw Escavalier for the first time and... that does not work. It looks terrible lol.
 
Neiteio said:
Chesnaught is meant to evoke a knight. Not flat-out emulate one. And he does evoke a knight, covered head-to-toe in his own naturalistic, exoskeletal take on body armor. This should be evident from the helmet on his head to the plating on his arms and legs to the beige color that compromises earthy hues and a knight's shining armor. He's fortified, front and back, top to bottom. He even has the ornamental trim of a knight along the edges of his shell-shield.

Any more blatant and it veers off into parody territory, which worked for Escavalier as a regular mid-game Pokemon but would be a bit too on the nose for a starter.
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Yeah no, the starters designs are pretty simple and to the point.

*Braxien has a magic wand on his tail.
*Greninja has Ninja on his name, Tongue Scarf and Water Shuriken as a signature move. Driving the point in your face.
*Empoleon is an Emperor Penguin wearing a Napoleon suit. He looks like a has a tie and a Crown.
*Torterra has a landscape on it's back.

Chesnaught would be the odd one out in its supposed subtlety. Every other Starter had being pretty obvious the motif behind it.
 
Neiteio said:
I'm guessing you're unimaginative and don't see how Samurott conveys a samurai either, right? Because he's not blatantly wearing the broad helmet or wielding katanas. Tsk!

At any rate, Chesnaught is definitely the warrior counterpart to Delphox's mage and Greninja's thief, but if some people don't get that, so be it. I'm rolling with Greninja anyways.

RE: wishlist for possible Ruby/Sapphire remakes:

I should've included an option for Pokemon to follow you around in the overworld! But many that'd be exhaustive for the team to design chibi 3D models of every Pokemon, lol.
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It's more samurott turned into a fucking seal dog. Dewott was going great in the direction of something that could end up cool. Chesnaught just looks like a train wreck. Like a beta model. He has no character to his stance, his pin head and hovering shell makes him look improperly balanced. The same can be said for Fennekin3 too though. Greninja totally got the most time invested. He has a definitive and emotive stance, a clear cut aesthetic (Bullshit defenses of "you just don't see it because it's pulled so many influences" or "use your imagination" only further support Chesnaught's half-assed design) as well as maintaining at least the same major color scheme as previous forms (most importantly the dominant shades/tones that all previous starters have done).

At this point it's agree to disagree though since you're already launching insults to try and counterpoint.
 
Unicorn said:
It's more samurott turned into a fucking seal dog. Dewott was going great in the direction of something that could end up cool. Chesnaught just looks like a train wreck. Like a beta model. He has no character to his stance, his pin head and hovering shell makes him look improperly balanced. The same can be said for Fennekin3 too though. Greninja totally got the most time invested. He has a definitive and emotive stance, a clear cut aesthetic (Bullshit defenses of "you just don't see it because it's pulled so many influences" or "use your imagination" only further support Chesnaught's half-assed design) as well as maintaining at least the same major color scheme as previous forms (most importantly the dominant shades/tones that all previous starters have done).

At this point it's agree to disagree though since you're already launching insults to try and counterpoint.
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You're focusing on the animal, not the theme. Samurott is a damn great evolution. I'll admit that Chestnaught is also difficult for me to swallow, but there's no way that Samurott was a horrible decision from Dewott. The helmet, the beard, the hidden blade, it's a great shogun design. Otters and sea lions are very similar looking anyway.

And I gotta thank Neiteio. I'm pretty turned off Chespin's final form, but I'm going to give it another shot.
 
Realized today I never touched the endgame in White 2. Ended up beating N in his castle, catching Reshiram and finishing off with Kyurem. Not sure why I never did that. Put ton of time in that game, yet never got the cover legendary. Oh well, it's done now. Man, I still love that game. Made me even more hyped to play Y.
 
Winterfang said:
Yeah no, the starters designs are pretty simple and to the point.

*Braxien has a magic wand on his tail.
*Greninja has Ninja on his name, Tongue Scarf and Water Shuriken as a signature move. Driving the point in your face.
*Empoleon is an Emperor Penguin wearing a Napoleon suit. He looks like a has a tie and a Crown.
*Torterra has a landscape on it's back.

Chesnaught would be the odd one out in its supposed subtlety. Every other Starter had being pretty obvious the motif behind it.
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All three are equally evocative. Delphox (who is the final evolution, not Braixen) has the silhouette of a wizard's robe; Greninja's tongue and pose evokes a ninja/thief and its scarf; and Chesnaught is covered head to toe in form-fitting armor, complete with a shell that fits like a cape at the shoulders and sports the ornamental trim of a knight. He even features a move called "Spiky Shield," and his predecessor factors "palladin" into its name (figure I'd mention it since Braixen was fair game in your example).

Unicorn said:
It's more samurott turned into a fucking seal dog. Dewott was going great in the direction of something that could end up cool. Chesnaught just looks like a train wreck. Like a beta model. He has no character to his stance, his pin head and hovering shell makes him look improperly balanced. The same can be said for Fennekin3 too though. Greninja totally got the most time invested. He has a definitive and emotive stance, a clear cut aesthetic (Bullshit defenses of "you just don't see it because it's pulled so many influences" or "use your imagination" only further support Chesnaught's half-assed design) as well as maintaining at least the same major color scheme as previous forms (most importantly the dominant shades/tones that all previous starters have done).

At this point it's agree to disagree though since you're already launching insults to try and counterpoint.
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I think you're misinterpreting the tone here. I said nothing intended to "insult" you.

For reasons I've already enumerated, Chesnaught is obviously evocative of a warrior in general, if not a knight in particular. There aren't many other things in life that wear sleek, form-fitting, segmented armor. Of course, this design also merges a knight's armor with a chestnut's shape, meaning it looks unlike any conventional knight. Much like the Onion Knight in Dark Souls.

At any rate, if Chesnaught bothers you, you can always use the other two or focus on one of the original starters. I'm rocking Froakie/Torchic/Bulbasaur myself.
 
When the animal is at odds with the theme, yeah it gets in the way. All other starters and their evos are fantastic. I like less than 10 total pokemon in gen5 but Emboar is fucking classic. Yeah, samurott has the head down, but that's it. From there he may as well be a different monster. Samurai otter, but he's quadrupedal. If they even just had him lurching forward feraligatr style I probably would have liked him a lot more. As a quadruped he's more limited in combat to bipedal Dewott. His hands are now just supporting his own fat ass.
 
Man, just out of curiousity I booted up my old Diamond and Platinum games. I was not prepared to see all of old bros like that, and it led to me making a list of which ones to migrate up to White 2 (and ultimately Gen 6).

I'd even forgotten about all the shinies I'd chained for back then. I have things like shiny Slakoth, Aron, Larvitar, Pinsir, etc... Hell, I even have the shiny Pikachu I found while hunting for Lucky Eggs in the Trophy Garden.

I can't wait to see these guys in 3D.
 
bequietdrive said:
Have had my review copy for 8 days now, has anyone else had it crash their 3DS? Only when playing this game I've had it shut down my 3DS completely once in standby and twice in gameplay, still had 3/4 battery. Wonder if its just an issue with the downloadable version and will be patched.
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nothing so far.
 
Heliosk's base stat total:

60/65/50/120/100/120 (every electric-type should strive for these kind of stats, looking at you Raichu...)

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Time to get a Heliosk.
 
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