Mental Health |OT| Depression & Co.

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I have a problem with talking to women. In that attempting to engage in conversation with one my hormones just flare up and I degenerate into gibberish. I wonder how I can stop doing that, it's inconvenient.

I also haven't been able to get in touch with my psychiatrist or therapist yet, as I can't seem to reach them in hours where the lines are actually open. I'll probably need to see them after this week too, for work-related reasons. Deadlines are stressful.
 
If only you knew of the other things he made for her... Like certain lists.

You make him sound like such a creeper.

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first page and all that.
 
"Writing sexually explicit fanfiction in which you are both anthropomorphic koalas
who fight crime and have the wildest, eucalyptus-fueled erotic adventures ever
conceived - If I’ve been legally barred from doing it, I don’t think you should be able to
either, frankly."
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Wow this is amazing! Not only is it funny and good, it's also very sweet to make such a thing for a friend. She should cherish you!

And don't worry, she absolutely does NOT cherish having such a creative, caring, unhinged friend. :(

(Fortunately, he's an expert compliment-fisher)
 
Blah. Called one psychiatrist's office and they are not accepting new patients. I won't be able to see my current psychiatrist until the 29th, that's the soonest they can do. My psychologist is supposed to get me some more names.

I think if I had the money/means I would self-medicate. The psychiatric situation down here really fucking sucks.

Edit: Is there a good guide to supplements for depression?
 

Flo

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If only you knew of the other things he made for her... Like certain lists.

Uh oh, not sure if I should ask what kind of lists..?

edit: That doesn't sound like a bad list? Good thing you know very well how good of a friend you are :)
 
Blah. Called one psychiatrist's office and they are not accepting new patients. I won't be able to see my current psychiatrist until the 29th, that's the soonest they can do. My psychologist is supposed to get me some more names.

I think if I had the money/means I would self-medicate. The psychiatric situation down here really fucking sucks.

Edit: Is there a good guide to supplements for depression?
St. John's wort, but the verdict is very much out on that. And waiting 12 days to see a psychiatrist is nothing! When I was calling around my area a few weeks ago it was a 2 month wait.

Perspective, man.
 

Pau

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I have a problem with talking to women. In that attempting to engage in conversation with one my hormones just flare up and I degenerate into gibberish. I wonder how I can stop doing that, it's inconvenient.

I also haven't been able to get in touch with my psychiatrist or therapist yet, as I can't seem to reach them in hours where the lines are actually open. I'll probably need to see them after this week too, for work-related reasons. Deadlines are stressful.
A good start is realizing that women are people.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Blah. Called one psychiatrist's office and they are not accepting new patients. I won't be able to see my current psychiatrist until the 29th, that's the soonest they can do. My psychologist is supposed to get me some more names.

I think if I had the money/means I would self-medicate. The psychiatric situation down here really fucking sucks.

Edit: Is there a good guide to supplements for depression?

Absolutely! Let me summarize for you.

They're all bullshit at this point, with the exception of SJW, which has some efficacy in minor depression.

Can you see a GP/Family doc? Uncomplicated antidepressant therapy is increasingly done by non-psychiatrists.
 
Absolutely! Let me summarize for you.

They're all bullshit at this point, with the exception of SJW, which has some efficacy in minor depression.
That's what I figured.
Can you see a GP/Family doc? Uncomplicated antidepressant therapy is increasingly done by non-psychiatrists.
I'm currently on escitalopram (20mg) and taking buspirone (10mg). I think the escitalopram needs to be adjusted, if not dropped for another med.
 

Colin.

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I have a problem with talking to women. In that attempting to engage in conversation with one my hormones just flare up and I degenerate into gibberish. I wonder how I can stop doing that, it's inconvenient.

It normally stems from a lack of experience, and/or the limited interaction someone has had with the opposite sex has not been successful. Is that the case for you? I remember going through my entire school years, and I never came into contact with any female I could really consider a friend. It can mess with your perception, making contact with that one gender feel more difficult than it really is. Because they aren't some different species that are unrelatable, just regular people like yourself.

Another common flaw is to see every attractive women as a potential love interest, which is the impression I'm getting from the "hormones" bit. Don't do that. It adds further, unnecessary pressure on yourself, which will affect how you project yourself to people. And it can waste opportunities for potential friendships. My advice would be to further that experience, as it will be the only way your perception will change. Chat more with women were the situation is fitting. Classmate, co-worker, even just someone serving you in a shop.
 
A good start is realizing that women are people.

It normally stems from a lack of experience, and/or the limited interaction someone has had with the opposite sex has not been successful. Is that the case for you? I remember going through my entire school years, and I never came into contact with any female I could really consider a friend. It can mess with your perception, making contact with that one gender feel more difficult than it really is. Because they aren't some different species that are unrelatable, just regular people like yourself.

Another common flaw is to see every attractive women as a potential love interest, which is the impression I'm getting from the "hormones" bit. Don't do that. It adds further, unnecessary pressure on yourself, which will affect how you project yourself to people. And it can waste opportunities for potential friendships. My advice would be to further that experience, as it will be the only way your perception will change. Chat more with women were the situation is fitting. Classmate, co-worker, even just someone serving you in a shop.

I was in a negative state of mind when I said that, and my issues are pretty exaggerated. I do understand that women are just people and I don't have big problems with talking with women, but it just feels that my mind gets clouded with thoughts I don't need whenever talking with one. It's just a hassle that just nags me at the back of my mind, especially since I want to actually get to know people without having these romantic connotations.

I think that the lack of experience with them is something that I do need to remedy, however. I'm a software developer which means I don't have much contact with women, and most of my life I didn't even think about dating seriously. It's just something that I have to work more on, I suppose.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Had an amazing dream 2 nights ago that I can't stop thinking about. So happy and beautiful.

I think I'll get back into lucid dreaming. Used to be pretty good at it back in high school, then stopped training and lost it. Kinda want it back.
 

Pau

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I was in a negative state of mind when I said that, and my issues are pretty exaggerated. I do understand that women are just people and I don't have big problems with talking with women, but it just feels that my mind gets clouded with thoughts I don't need whenever talking with one. It's just a hassle that just nags me at the back of my mind, especially since I want to actually get to know people without having these romantic connotations.

I think that the lack of experience with them is something that I do need to remedy, however. I'm a software developer which means I don't have much contact with women, and most of my life I didn't even think about dating seriously. It's just something that I have to work more on, I suppose.
What kind of thoughts does it get clouded with? And yeah, a good way to remedy that is by just interacting with women more in both platonic and romantic situations. (If it helps, I'm a woman and you're talking to me just fine! :p)

Anyways, my computer science exam could have gone better. I made some dumb mistakes, but the teacher came to ask me what I thought of the exam and was very surprised that I'm a nervous test-taker since my quizzes and homework so far have been almost perfect. Being aware that he knows that I understand the material helps a lot and keeps the pressure off somewhat.

I also got some numbers of therapists in my area from the college counseling center so I'll be making those calls tomorrow in the morning. Hopefully someone has an opening soon.
 

Curtisaur

Forum Landmine
Got a therapeutic sorta tattoo today. The sensation/feeling of getting it done was kinda like cutting but with something I actually wanted to show for it instead of embarrassing scars. I want more. But they cost money.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
A song for all of you, after we talked last night.

Especially for a certain John Green fan, as this is one of his favorite songs.

Up the Wolves

There's bound to be a ghost at the back of your closet,
no matter where you live.
There'll always be a few things maybe several things
that you're going to find really difficult to forgive.

there's gonna come a day when you'll feel better,
you'll rise up free and easy on that day
and float from branch to branch, lighter than the air,
just when that day is coming, who can say, who can say


Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome,
but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home.

We're gonna commandeer the local airwaves
to tell the neighbors what's been going on.
and they will shake their heads, and wag their boney fingers in all the wrong directions
and by daybreak we'll be gone.

I'm gonna get myself in fighting trim,
scope out every angle of unfair advantage.
I'm going to bribe the officials,
I'm going to kill all the judges.
It's going to take you people years to recover from all of the damage.

Our mother has been gone ever since we founded Rome,
but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home.
Oh!
 
Hello.

I lurk every now and then but decided to finally post. It's been hard for me the past 5 years. I went from avoiding eye contact and hardly talking to people to putting on this happy face so my family doesn't worry. This, topped off with some suicidal thoughts, has made life pretty hard for me.

I never went to a doctor about this, but I think it's time I should.
 
What kind of thoughts does it get clouded with? And yeah, a good way to remedy that is by just interacting with women more in both platonic and romantic situations. (If it helps, I'm a woman and you're talking to me just fine! :p)

Anyways, my computer science exam could have gone better. I made some dumb mistakes, but the teacher came to ask me what I thought of the exam and was very surprised that I'm a nervous test-taker since my quizzes and homework so far have been almost perfect. Being aware that he knows that I understand the material helps a lot and keeps the pressure off somewhat.

I also got some numbers of therapists in my area from the college counseling center so I'll be making those calls tomorrow in the morning. Hopefully someone has an opening soon.

I think I'm good on communicating with people on the internet. Actually, I think I'm just too self-conscious of myself in real-life small talk in general. It's something that was bugging me when I first met my gym instructor yesterday, that I couldn't really come up with things to really say. Around girls it's just slightly worse, as now there's just some raunchy thoughts lingering around.

If it helps out, I pretty much blew up most of the computer science courses I've taken during college. But the exams aren't really so important as the actual hands-on experience in software development (homework). Knowing the theory is the more important thing, everything else you have stackoverflow for.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Hello.

I lurk every now and then but decided to finally post. It's been hard for me the past 5 years. I went from avoiding eye contact and hardly talking to people to putting on this happy face so my family doesn't worry. This, topped off with some suicidal thoughts, has made life pretty hard for me.

I never went to a doctor about this, but I think it's time I should.

Sounds like it.

Glad to have you posting! Ask away if you have questions about seeing s doc.
 
I think I'm good on communicating with people on the internet. Actually, I think I'm just too self-conscious of myself in real-life small talk in general.
I was like you. I was shy as a child, grew up in chatrooms, didn't mingle with fellow students unless they were odd, and had a tough time being social. Then I just started treating my real life interactions like my internet interactions.

Then I started to learn more about popular things, like sports (which I came to like, actually), and the more I learned about what was going on in the world, the more "ammo" I had when talking with people. Of course, it also takes practice. And it's easier said than done, but you are your worst enemy when talking with people, because oftentimes people are happy to chat. Now if you're ultra awkward, then it's pretty clear cut by their reactions, else it's likely all in your head.

Just keep at it. Try to small talk with any random person you encounter, even if they're a clerk in a store. The more you do it, the less inhibitive it will become.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
It took me, er, a little while to get these out, so reminder!

These are little notebooks, like so:
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(guest appearance by my meds!)

And you fill a page with whatever you'd like - words, drawings, stickers, a musical score - and pass it along. It's just a fun project to inspire each other and give people something from this community that's "real," that they can touch and hold. In the end, if they make it back to me, I'll scan them and post the results. For now, the only way to see what's in them is to get one in the mail!

Let the person who has one know if you want it next, or PM me and I'll keep a list. They can go wherever you're willing to pay to ship them (they fit in an envelope), but they're currently in 3 regions.

Here's the current status

#1 (USA) - Lionheart1827 ---> Pau or jb1234?
#2 (Europe) - FillerB --> Flo
#3 (Canada) - Prax --> Windam?

In Asia, South America, Oceania, outer space, and want to start one for your area? Let me know.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
It took me, er, a little while to get these out, so reminder!

These are little notebooks, like so:


And you fill a page with whatever you'd like - words, drawings, stickers, a musical score - and pass it along. It's just a fun project to inspire each other and give people something from this community that's "real," that they can touch and hold. In the end, if they make it back to me, I'll scan them and post the results. For now, the only way to see what's in them is to get one in the mail!

Let the person who has one know if you want it next, or PM me and I'll keep a list. They can go wherever you're willing to pay to ship them (they fit in an envelope), but they're currently in 3 regions.

Here's the current status

#1 (USA) - Lionheart1827 ---> Pau or jb1234?
#2 (Europe) - FillerB --> Flo
#3 (Canada) - Prax --> Windam?

In Asia, South America, Oceania, outer space, and want to start one for your area? Let me know.

That's awesome!

So I should just PM you my address?
 
I wish I could just vanish forever.

Do you think my family could forgive me? I don't want to ruin their lives, but I see no other option. Do you think if I wrote a note they'd understand?

I am not planning to do anything now - or even soon - just to be clear.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
A lot of people might give advice along the lines of "look at the big picture" but the big picture itself is what can elicit depression. What helps sometimes is to purposefully give yourself tunnel vision and focus on your own well being. The internet just came into being less than a hundred years ago. I don't think humans were socially wired to think of community on a global scale. It can make everything seem so overwhelming when you can view the lives of everyone else and naturally you compare yourself to their lives. That can be pretty depressing. And while knowledge and truth is the ultimate goal I think it definitely does help to give yourself a little ignorant bliss when it gets rough (or if its rough for you all the time). It's healthy. The other extreme of course is focusing on yourself too much with racing thoughts, in which case it's best to go in the other direction. </incoherent thoughts>
 
Long distance relationships are miserable and terrible. But like... in this weird, good way. It's nice to know someone cares about you a lot, even if they are states or countries away.

But, fuck distance, man.
 

Collete

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Long distance relationships are miserable and terrible. But like... in this weird, good way. It's nice to know someone cares about you a lot, even if they are states or countries away.

But, fuck distance, man.

It sucks, but usually the person is worth it no matter what the distance, that's why you're doing this, right?
All I can say is, have tremendous patience and set a date when you can two can meet.
Try not to make it ambiguous unless there's a solid reason for it.

But, yes, fuck distance, dude.
 
I was feeling really weird on Wednesday about my personality quirks. Facial tics, alternating between extroverted and introverted so quickly. I dunno. I know I don't have any form of autism or what have you, but I'm trying to figure out why I'm not like most people. If anyone saw the movie that came out recently, "Prisoners" I really identified with Jake Gyllenhaal's character, Detective Loki. If that paints a picture of how I act lol. How is everyone doing tonight?
 
Long distance relationships are miserable and terrible. But like... in this weird, good way. It's nice to know someone cares about you a lot, even if they are states or countries away.

But, fuck distance, man.
Good luck with that. I don't think I could do it, I need physical intimacy.
 

Collete

Member
I was feeling really weird on Wednesday about my personality quirks. Facial tics, alternating between extroverted and introverted so quickly. I dunno. I know I don't have any form of autism or what have you, but I'm trying to figure out why I'm not like most people. If anyone saw the movie that came out recently, "Prisoners" I really identified with Jake Gyllenhaal's character, Detective Loki. If that paints a picture of how I act lol. How is everyone doing tonight?

Was working on my midterm tonight, and just about to head to bed. (Haven't even completed...)
Long day yesterday/today and another long day today/tomorrow!...
 
Long distance relationships are miserable and terrible.
I'm going to be the one to give you different advice. Get out.

I was in an LDR that, too, made me miserable. I cried all the time, I missed the person, I had none of my needs met. And this went on for a year. By the end I was so crushed, so broken, so exhausted I fell apart as a person.

And I felt like you. "She cares about me!" All of the caring in the world doesn't mean squat when your needs aren't being met. If you feel like this now, it's only going to get worse.

From what I've seen of your posts, you're rather funny and have a great personality. You find someone close who cares about you and it'll be all the better, since they will be a stone's throw away. You don't need to settle just because someone cares about you.

I know you won't seek my advice, but I speak from a been-there, done-that, never-again perspective.
 
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