3 men push over 200 million year old rock formation in Goblin Valley.....(video)

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Jesus, you guys need to cut these people some slack. Talk about witch hunting. It was a stupid mistake, a fine would be suitable. I wish people got this outraged about things that...you know...actually matter.

Are people only allowed to be outraged about one thing at a time?
 
I hope Goblin Valley State Park will continue to be this visitor friendly:

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/blevins_12_11/

In contrast to most other parks, Goblin Valley doesn't proscribe trails to follow in the valley among the stone formations, suggesting visitors walk in and amongst the brown goblins, letting SF fans see Galaxy Quest's rock battle site up close. Park visitors can be overheard using the stone formations as a landscape-based Rorschach test, comparing the formations to mushrooms, ducks, trolls, eggs, and more.

Scouts from all over the Southwest frequently camp here, playing amongst the goblins. One ranger indicated visitors love to walk amongst the formations during full moons — and to play moonlit laser tag in the valley.


One of the Galaxy Quest scenes shot in Goblin Valley:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopdYE3_QoU#t=00m30s
 
I don't get the outrage, they don't deserve jail time for that.
If someone walked into the Louvre and did irreversible damage to the most priceless painting in there, do you think they should be punished under the law?
 
Jesus, you guys need to cut these people some slack. Talk about witch hunting. It was a stupid mistake, a fine would be suitable. I wish people got this outraged about things that...you know...actually matter.

Nature doesn't matter
 
I especially liked the part where he channeled his inner Hulk Hogan.

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And nothing of value was lost by pushing it over. You wouldn't give a shit about anyone pushing the rock over unless someone told you to care.

Bullshit. Say some dick weed threw a bag of cement into one of the pools at Yellowstone because they though a kid might fall in. You don't think people should be mad about that?
 
Bullshit. Say some dick weed threw a bag of cement into one of the pools at Yellowstone because they though a kid might fall in. You don't think people should be mad about that?
You're comparing throwing something unnatural into a natural habitat to pushing something over. You don't think that's at least a little bit of a false equivalence?
Do you think something doesn't have value if it isn't directly useful to humans?
I'm saying that literally nothing is going to happen from those rocks being knocked over other then the fact that the rocks are in a slightly different position then they were 200 millon years ago, much like almost every other rock in the history of rocks. Yet some people want these guys to go to jail, or are saying they should die.
 
You're comparing throwing something unnatural into a natural habitat to pushing something over. You don't think that's at least a little bit of a false equivalence?

Fine, say they rolled a boulder into it to block the whole thing. Better?
 
Fine, say they rolled a boulder into it to block the whole thing. Better?
No, you're still clogging up a geyser, which is completely different then moving a rock a couple feet. Nothing in nature gets fucked up by these rocks moving a little. The only reason people are mad is because these were really old rocks that never moved and now they are moved, much like almost ever other rock in history.
Actually I think it's pretty good equivalence.
Except it's not. A good equivalence would be moving any rock from one side of your yard to the other. Nothing in nature gets hurt from these rocks falling over, the only reason people are mad is because these rocks were really good at not falling over and now they're not upright anymore. I'm not even saying the guys should have done it, but the outrage of some rocks being slightly different then they were yesterday is ridiculous.
 
Ask yourself this question: what value would be lost if someone went in and tipped over hundreds of them in that area?
Environmentally? Absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter what formation the rocks are in, the only reason people care that they're sitting the way they are is because they've been like that for so long. The rocks aren't doing anything in the position they're in that they couldn't be doing completely spread across the ground in an environmental sense.
 
Environmentally? Absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter what formation the rocks are in, the only reason people care that they're sitting the way they are is because they've been like that for so long. The rocks aren't doing anything in the position they're in that they couldn't be doing completely spread across the ground in an environmental sense.

Environmental considerations aren't the only metric here.

But then again, environmentally speaking, who knows what sort of microclimate has established in that valley as a result of the current configuration, and what sort of (presumably micro) organisms depend on it.

Or perhaps the current layout is fine for a predator/prey balance. Who knows.

But it's not just a simple matter of "they're just rocks".
 
The "just rocks" defense force also must be the type to see no issue with littering ... sad to see such disrespect for this world ...
 
Environmental considerations aren't the only metric here.

But then again, environmentally speaking, who knows what sort of microclimate has established in that valley as a result of the current configuration, and what sort of (presumably micro) organisms depend on it.

Or perhaps the current layout is fine for a predator/prey balance. Who knows.

But it's not just a simple matter of "they're just rocks".
You have zero proof that this isn't the case. I'm not saying these guys should get of scot free. Fine them and ban them, but jail time? People in here wishing that the rocks would have fallen on their heads? Fuck off with that.
The "just rocks" defense force also must be the type to see no issue with littering ... sad to see such disrespect for this world ...
You know what you get for littering once? A fine. You do not get jail time like so many people are hoping these guys get.
 
This thread has gone full retard.

Anything more than a fine is fucking ridiculous.
 
What value was lost from it being moved?

I consider environments in their natural state to be inherently valuable. Do you? So from my perspective, any man-made change reduces the value of that area.

I'm not going to say they should be jailed or heavily punished like some are advocating in this thread, but you won't see me trying to claim that what they did wasn't wrong.
 
The reason that these rocks are special is because of their formation. A formation that I assume is unique to this area, or is at least very rare throughout the world. By toppling one over, it no longer has the formation that made it unique. You can't compare it to ordinary rocks and their ordinary formations that occur in abundance all over the world. Do you not see that these rock formations are unique?

I however don't think they should go to jail/prison, but a punitive fine should be in order.
 
Id be more sad if was all rock, but it really does look like it was just dirt under it.

If its that important they can just put the rock back on the pile of dirt.
 
These guys seem like total scumbags, but seriously it's just a rock. The best thing to happen would be if that guy got his disability suit revoked.
 
People who say 'It's just a rock' should watch that Ken Burns documentary about the National Parks, ha. Not saying you're wrong, but I thought about that kind of stuff pretty differently after seeing it a few times.
 
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