Batman: Arkham Origins Review Thread

At least we wont have to deal with this again.
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LycanXIII said:
At least we wont have to deal with this again.
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Haha. Harsh.

Still looking forward to a demo if one eventuates.

The biggest problem this game will have is familiarity. If its a solid game, people tiring of the franchise will still rate it lower. Which is a bit unfair.
 
I hope people aren't turned off by something like a 7/10, because actually reading that eurogamer review, it is very fair and very positive. Yesterday I said something like people who are not specific big batman fans and came to arkham for the innovations the last two had, or who wouldn't want to just play more might not love this game, but for peeps who are huge bat fans or would be happy just take a refresh on the arkham city areas and story would be really happy, and I still totally stick by that having played a good 5 hours. I'm happy to get one more Arkham game before the engine goes out of date, the gameplay mechanics go out of date and so on. I will always take a good new batman story, so this is a perfectly great method of delivery for me, but 7 is fair, because it won't satisfy everyone.
 
doniewhalberg said:
I hope people aren't turned off by something like a 7/10, because actually reading that eurogamer review, it is very fair and very positive. Yesterday I said something like people who are not specific big batman fans and came to arkham for the videogame, or who wouldn't mind just play more might not love this game, but for peeps who are huge bat fans or would happy just take a refresh on the arkham city areas and story would be really happy, and I still totally stick by that having played a good 5 hours. I'm happy to get one more Arkham game before the engine goes out of date, the gameplay mechanics go out of date and so on. I will always take a good new batman story, so this is a perfectly great method of delivery for me, but 7 is fair, because it won't satisfy everyone.
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I'm not a huge batman fan, but I suspect you are 100% correct.
 
About what I expected.

Sorry guys, no Rocksteady, no sale.

Not going to buy it just because it says Batman on the cover.
 
doniewhalberg said:
I hope people aren't turned off by something like a 7/10, because actually reading that eurogamer review, it is very fair and very positive. Yesterday I said something like people who are not specific big batman fans and came to arkham for the innovations the last two had, or who wouldn't want to just play more might not love this game, but for peeps who are huge bat fans or would be happy just take a refresh on the arkham city areas and story would be really happy, and I still totally stick by that having played a good 5 hours. I'm happy to get one more Arkham game before the engine goes out of date, the gameplay mechanics go out of date and so on. I will always take a good new batman story, so this is a perfectly great method of delivery for me, but 7 is fair, because it won't satisfy everyone.
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I'm turned off only by paying $40-$60 for it.

The scores seem more like a wait until it's $25 or less.
 
Yagharek said:
I'm not a huge batman fan, but I suspect you are 100% correct.
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Jesus, my typos haha, I went back and cleaned that up, no idea how you (or anyone else) even reads my shit sometimes haha.

Also Batman: Arkham Origins adequately imitates something brilliant pretty much sums up what I was trying to say hahah. Depending on your enthusiasm for the IP and reason for playing, if a game adequately imitates something brilliant, you might thus come to the conclusion the game is in fact then brilliant. Or you may just find it to be an imitation. It is what it is. I think people will be fairly divided on this.

IcyRhythms said:
I'm turned off only by paying $40-$60 for it.

The scores seem more like a wait until it's $25 or less.
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Haha, well I'm turned off at paying $60 for many games, thankfully on PC I got it for around $30. Like I said, depending on why you come, $60 will not be acceptable for what it's offering. I of course welcome Rocksteady coming back with actual NEW gameplay mechanisms, brand new animations and stuff from scratch, for sure I want it all if I can have it everytime. That wouldn't have happened here though, we just wouldn't have got a batman game again until next gen - I'm into this thing for enough of what it offers to be happy with both. Totally get your point though. Like I say, level of investment, and enjoyment and the reasons for that is going to thus really divide people on this. Reminds me of the brotherhood/revelations sequels to Assassin's Creed 2.
 
Vire said:
About what I expected.

Sorry guys, no Rocksteady, no sale.

Not going to buy it just because it says Batman on the cover.
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The reviews fault the game for being too much like the Rocksteady's games. They say the actual gameplay is as good and even better on some aspects (boss fights).
 
Zaventem said:
Still buying it. These look like disappointment scores rather than "this game is terrible" scores.
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Yeah I agree.

I think a lot of it simply nailing Warners for churning out an game that does nothing to evolve the series, so it feels like a cash grab.

Still picking mine up tomorrow regardless of these scores.

I love the combat and the stealth mechanics of this series. More of the same, while not great, is still good enough for me.

I played through City twice.
 
Review scores always baffle me.
If AC was a 10/10 game, and AO is pretty much the same game, shouldn't AO be 10/10 as well?
I thought reviews were meant to review the game.
And why is it that 6 and a 7 is considered terrible? the scale goes from 1/10.
 
TheFLYINGManga_Ka said:
Usually games like this get that "it does nothing new" treatment from reviewers even though it maybe the best in the series or just as good.
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Pretty much. Even AC was a little ho-hum for me.

Prolly gonna skip this one for the time being. Maybe on a Steam sale.

ItsThatAsianBoy said:
Review scores always baffle me.
If AC was a 10/10 game, and AO is pretty much the same game, shouldn't AO be 10/10 as well?
I thought reviews were meant to review the game.
And why is it that 6 and a 7 is considered terrible? the scale goes from 1/10.
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10/10 is not awarded for a game being derivative. Take sports games. If 2K12 is 9/10 and Live12 is 10/10, but 2K13 is better than Live12, and Live13 is just a roster update... how can Live13 earn a 10 for being the same game?

And if you get 60% in a class, you've done terribly.
 
Hypron said:
The reviews fault the game for being too much like the Rocksteady's games. They say the actual gameplay is as good and even better on some aspects (boss fights).
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Who is they? A lot of the reviews said technical problems plague the game. (Framerate).

EGM said:
Batman: Arkham Origins is a massive step back from Rocksteady’s Arkham efforts due to countless technical problems, poor gadget balancing, and a needless addition of versus multiplayer.
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Vire said:
Who is they?
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IGN, eurogamer and another one I can't remember. I've not read every single review. I overlooked the technical parts since I won't be playing on consoles, but I understand that's a dealbreaker for people that don't own PCs.
 
Hypron said:
IGN, eurogamer and another one I can't remember. I've not read every single review.
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Another quote from Polygon:

Batman: Arkham Origins presents a version of the popular superhero who is still learning and doesn't seem to totally understand why he does what he does. I just wish the game didn't share those vulnerabilities. Where Arkham Asylum and Arkham City surprised me with their ambition, Origins is comfortable taking the best from what has come before without contributing much of its own — or even fully understanding what worked about those systems. It's built on a solid foundation but it doesn't take the world's greatest detective to see that something significant is missing.
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So it's basically a not as good Arkham game made by the B team. I mean, if you are starving for more Batman, be my guest, but know what you are getting into.
 
Vire said:
Another quote from Polygon:



So it's basically a not as good Arkham game made by the B team. I mean, if you are starving for more Batman, be my guest, but know what you are getting into.
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Fair enough, I guess I read all the most positive ones first haha.
 
Vire said:
About what I expected.

Sorry guys, no Rocksteady, no sale.

Not going to buy it just because it says Batman on the cover.
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But you would have bought it if it said Rocksteady on the cover?


ItsThatAsianBoy said:
Review scores always baffle me.
If AC was a 10/10 game, and AO is pretty much the same game, shouldn't AO be 10/10 as well?
I thought reviews were meant to review the game.
And why is it that 6 and a 7 is considered terrible? the scale goes from 1/10.
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With most forms of media, you can't judge a sequel/prequel in a vacuum since it's building off pre-existing stuff.
 
roflwaffles said:
But you would have bought it if it said Rocksteady on the cover?




With most forms of media, you can't judge a sequel/prequel in a vacuum since it's building off pre-existing stuff.
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Yeah I probably would have because I've come to expect a certain level of quality from Rocksteady.

You can't just replace talent like that so easily. Arkham Asylum is in my top five for games of the generation.
 
Vire said:
Another quote from Polygon:



So it's basically a not as good Arkham game made by the B team. I mean, if you are starving for more Batman, be my guest, but know what you are getting into.
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So you ignore all the positive reviews from other people? Ok, be my guest.
 
I do get the feeling if this had been another Rocksteady game that a lot of these scores would look much different.

I agree with the review that said give this series a break. 3-4yrs sounds about right.

Anyone know what Rocksteady is working on? Did that TMNT rumor get crushed?
 
IcyRhythms said:
I do get the feeling if this had been another Rocksteady game that a lot of these scores would look much different.

I agree with the review that said give this series a break. 3-4yrs sounds about right.

Anyone know what Rocksteady is working on? Did that TMNT rumor get crushed?
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I think they're working on a new batman game of their own. Read some people posting about that.
 
Vire said:
Yeah I probably would have because I've come to expect a certain level of quality from Rocksteady.

You can't just replace talent like that so easily. Arkham Asylum is in my top five for games of the generation.
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Exactly why I'm skipping out on this game.
 
Vire said:
Yeah I probably would have because I've come to expect a certain level of quality from Rocksteady.

You can't just replace talent like that so easily. Arkham Asylum is in my top five for games of the generation.
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Honestly man the only thing this game is lacking compared to Rocksteady is a little bit of polish, but it does a couple things better than Rocksteady. The city is way better and more fun to play in, the cinematics in the game are way better, Batman and most of the villains designs are better, the combat feels more brutal and Batman is feared in this game which makes it that much better.
 
IcyRhythms said:
I do get the feeling if this had been another Rocksteady game that a lot of these scores would look much different.

I agree with the review that said give this series a break. 3-4yrs sounds about right.

Anyone know what Rocksteady is working on? Did that TMNT rumor get crushed?
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WB is doing the exact opposite of this. This game and development team exists solely to allow yearly iterations from here on out.
 
What is Rocksteady working on? I knew this would disappoint.

Its like Bioshock 2 all over again, different developer playing it too safe, adds fucking multiplayer no one will give a shit about and calls it a day.

Going to get this when its in the bargain bin, or wait for a next gen version.
 
Dr.Acula said:
Pretty much. Even AC was a little ho-hum for me.

Prolly gonna skip this one for the time being. Maybe on a Steam sale.



10/10 is not awarded for a game being derivative. Take sports games. If 2K12 is 9/10 and Live12 is 10/10, but 2K13 is better than Live12, and Live13 is just a roster update... how can Live13 earn a 10 for being the same game?

And if you get 60% in a class, you've done terribly.
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FIFA manages to get good scores every year despite being the same game.
 
Canis lupus said:
What is Rocksteady working on? I knew this would disappoint.

Its like Bioshock 2 all over again, different developer playing it too safe, adds fucking multiplayer and calls it a day.

Going to get this when its in the bargain bin, or wait for a next gen version.
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No one really knows what Rocksteady is working on. But knowing this industry, it's probably next gen Batman.

Which is both great and terrible news at the same time.
 
doniewhalberg said:
Jesus, my typos haha, I went back and cleaned that up, no idea how you (or anyone else) even reads my shit sometimes haha.

Also Batman: Arkham Origins adequately imitates something brilliant pretty much sums up what I was trying to say hahah. Depending on your enthusiasm for the IP and reason for playing, if a game adequately imitates something brilliant, you might thus come to the conclusion the game is in fact then brilliant. Or you may just find it to be an imitation. It is what it is. I think people will be fairly divided on this.
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I can read CBOAT, your post was fine. ;)
 
Its what I expected. Will pick it up on a steam sale next year. There are always a dozen or so fall games that I buy the next year.
 
Canis lupus said:
What is Rocksteady working on? I knew this would disappoint.

Its like Bioshock 2 all over again, different developer playing it too safe, adds fucking multiplayer no one will give a shit about and calls it a day.

Going to get this when its in the bargain bin, or wait for a next gen version.
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This is offtopic, but I find this quote incredible, just because I love Bioshock 2 and found it a good bit more satisfying in terms of gameplay than the first game, and while the story was less exciting, it was better built in terms of pacing, good conclusions etc. This could go off right on a Bioshock tangent though haha.

Good comparison in general though, because it is a similar situation. I think with this game though, I'll find it better if the story exceeds the others, I get the feeling purely on gameplay I won't walk out finding it better like with Bioshock 2, simple *the same*.
 
I drove past my Gamestop around 10:45 PM and it was still open. Had no idea why and then remembered that this game was coming out. There were literally 3 people in the store that weren't employees.
 
Bleh. I knew long before I bought this game what would be up. If they can manage not to depress me as much while I'm playing, we're good.

I just needed something to keep me busy until December.
 
WordsintheWater said:
Honestly man the only thing this game is lacking compared to Rocksteady is a little bit of polish, but it does a couple things better than Rocksteady. The city is way better and more fun to play in, the cinematics in the game are way better, Batman and most of the villains designs are better, the combat feels more brutal and Batman is feared in this game which makes it that much better.
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Really? Now that's actually surprising, especially considering Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy are gone.

Also, Deathstroke is one of my least favorite Batman villains...

So the new voice actors do a good job?
 
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